Catholic Preist Sings Song About Lucifer

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Don't bark at me. Do it again and you're blocked, understand?

Go right ahead.

I just put you on ignore.

 

[Mink57]

Don't bark at me. Do it again and you're blocked, understand?

You don't know what you're talking about, nor should you trust such ridiculous propaganda. Scripture says wherever nomadic Abraham settled, he did two things: he built an altar and DUG A WELL. The Philistines went around trying to stop his wells, but could not prevent Jesus from drinking from one such well.

There was no fracking, no chemical dumping, no acid rain, no nuclear radioactive runoff, no EPA necessary to control the widespread pollution happening today that harmed the wells of the ancients.

There was also no instrumentation to determine WHEN grape juice began to ferment. According to modern science, the fermentatin process begins immediately once yeast meets sugar. There is natural "wild yeast" on grape skins, so the process of fermentation begins as soon as one squishes a grape into itself.

Do ya REALLY think that Christ didn't KNOW that?

The false claim by catholics that Jesus drank fermented booze (which has made necessary the many Recovery Centers for booze addicted priests and nuns) is blasphemy and will not go unnoticed on the Day of Judgment.

Where's your stats? And don't just show me 2 or 3. Show me the "many".

 

[Phoneman777]

And “fresh grape juice” during a 3 day wedding celebration in the desert sun would have rendered it spoiled and Partially-fermented. And that’s IF it was squeezed on the DAY of the wedding – which it probably wasn’t.

As if ancient people didn't know about the Eastern equivalent of a root cellar and other such means of preserving food and drink. Try again, DB.

Question:
WHAT did Jesus mean when He said:
Mark 2:22
“And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. Otherwise, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins.”

Answer:
They will BURST because of the gases that emanate from fermentation.
This is JESUS talking – not your goddess, Ellen White.

DB.......stop slaving away at the feet of the Man of Sin and listen to the voice of reason:

Wineskins were typically made from sheepskin which didn't last and would lose their resilience and durability and become brittle seeing that their purpose - grape juice storage - disallowed the application of hide-preserving materials such as oil, wax, etc. Only a fool would risk his prayer for blessing, capital, planting and harvesting efforts, and all the work which pertained to grape juice production by filling with his very valuable end product a container that might burst open at any moment under it's own weight.

"Burst the skins" has zero to do with fermentation gases because, as I've told you silly papists time and time again, God gave the people strict instruction not to even look upon booze, much less put it in skins and store it for drinking.

He said that people usually serve the good stuff FIRST – then when they’ve drunk freely, they serve the cheaper wine.

DB, I already explained to you the best of anything is always brought out first, then the inferior later, such as fresh grape juice then that which is still this side of juice - not booze, fresh bread then what is beginning to go stale, ripened fruit then that which ain't so ripe, etc.

You papists desperately want the verse to mean "after everyone gets drunk on the "good" stuff, then the rotgut is served because they're too drunk to tell or care".

The only kind of fool is the one who doesn’t take Jesus seriously . . .

Jesus tells you papists there's only One mediator - Jesus. So, why do y'all insist we need the mediation of the Man of Sin and his "priests" and "saints"?

Again – your asinine anti-Catholic manure aside – show me a SINGLE verse claiming that the Wedding guests at Cana refused any wine and did not “drink freely” of it.

I don't deny that the people drank freely of "wine" - I deny the word of you papists and your Man of Sin in Rome that it was booze they drank.

Faith = Belief + Surrender/Obedience (Works) (Gal. 5:6, James 2:14-26).
How do YOU define faith?

Don't presume to solve a formula you can't even properly express on the board.

Salvation = grace + zero (obtained by inward faith evidenced by outward obedience) = "grace by faith alone"

 

[Phoneman777]

There was also no instrumentation to determine WHEN grape juice began to ferment. According to modern science, the fermentatin process begins immediately once yeast meets sugar. There is natural "wild yeast" on grape skins, so the process of fermentation begins as soon as one squishes a grape into itself.

Do ya REALLY think that Christ didn't KNOW that?

Where's your stats? And don't just show me 2 or 3. Show me the "many".

The only instrument necessary to determine if grape juice is still fit for consumption is look, smell, and taste.

You've never heard of catholic recovery centers for alcoholic priests and nuns?

 

[Phoneman777]

View attachment 38126 Go right ahead.

I just put you on ignore.

It's not unreasonable to insist on civility. "Let the minds clash, but keep the fists down". - Luther

 

[Mink57]

The only instrument necessary to determine if grape juice is still fit for consumption is look, smell, and taste.

Our senses are not always reliable. And I know that from personal experience. That's one reason why manufacturers put expiration dates on many perishables...including some beverages...including some wines.

You've never heard of catholic recovery centers for alcoholic priests and nuns?

Recovery centers specifically for alcoholic priests and nuns? In all honesty, no. I've never head of anything like that. But that doesn't mean there aren't any. And it would certainly make sense that there are places like that.

What I'm challenging is the "many."

Look, I get that some people abhor alcohol. But to make the claim that alcohol is "impure, corrupted, poisonous and deadly" is making an irrational judgment. The difference that you don't seem to want to acknowledge is that alcohol can be consumed safely.

What would you do if you discovered that Christ really DID drink wine and not "grape juice"?

Would he no longer be invited into your 'club'?

 

[Space_Karen]

As a teen, I attended a catholic church with a catholic friend.

I saw the priest rolling his eyes while he was speaking. As if he thought the religious words coming out of his own mouth were bs.

That experience has always stuck with me and shaped my views of catholicism more than anything else.

 

[Mink57]

As a teen, I attended a catholic church with a catholic friend.

I saw the priest rolling his eyes while he was speaking. As if he thought the religious words coming out of his own mouth were bs.

Sooooo.....you're clairvoyant?

That experience has always stuck with me and shaped my views of catholicism more than anything else.

I'm always amazed how ONE 'episode'...right or wrong...can 'shape' our views about the 'whole'. ONE priest chastises someone...must be ALL priests who feel the same way...ONE man takes advantage of a woman...must be ALL men who take advantage of women...ONE woman is a 'gold-digger'...must be ALL women are 'gold-diggers'...

ONE priest rolling his eyes does NOT mean the entire Catholic clergy would do the same thing.

And it would be an unFAIR judgment to draw that conclusion based on ONE...

My grandmother was a horrible woman. She was also Catholic. SHE ALONE turned me OFF to Catholicism. I thought, "If being Catholic means being like HER, I want NO PART of this!" Once she died, I STOPPED going to church...

Then, a few years later, I "grew UP". I realized that one woman's attitude/beliefs/behavior was NOT representative of ALL Catholics. In the meantime, I tried Protestantism...didn't work for me. I tried Judaism. Again, it didn't work for me. I tried reading the bible, in its entirety...and suddenly, the LIGHT went on! Luckily, Catholicism is NOT Sola Scriptura. So, I 'extended' my research to the church 'fathers'...

Catholicism ain't perfect by any means. But to *me*, it seems to be closest to the truth.

 

[Space_Karen]

Sooooo.....you're clairvoyant?

I'm always amazed how ONE 'episode'...right or wrong...can 'shape' our views about the 'whole'. ONE priest chastises someone...must be ALL priests who feel the same way...ONE man takes advantage of a woman...must be ALL men who take advantage of women...ONE woman is a 'gold-digger'...must be ALL women are 'gold-diggers'...

ONE priest rolling his eyes does NOT mean the entire Catholic clergy would do the same thing.

And it would be an unFAIR judgment to draw that conclusion based on ONE...

My grandmother was a horrible woman. She was also Catholic. SHE ALONE turned me OFF to Catholicism. I thought, "If being Catholic means being like HER, I want NO PART of this!" Once she died, I STOPPED going to church...

Then, a few years later, I "grew UP". I realized that one woman's attitude/beliefs/behavior was NOT representative of ALL Catholics. In the meantime, I tried Protestantism...didn't work for me. I tried Judaism. Again, it didn't work for me. I tried reading the bible, in its entirety...and suddenly, the LIGHT went on! Luckily, Catholicism is NOT Sola Scriptura. So, I 'extended' my research to the church 'fathers'...

Catholicism ain't perfect by any means. But to *me*, it seems to be closest to the truth.

Everything I've seen and heard since then.

Only reinforced my 1st impression of catholicism.

Your post on this forum is having the opposite of your intended effect as well.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Just for a laugh....

Well, I will tell you all a true , funny , and sad story of my family.

My paternal grandfather was so anti-alcohol, (mainly, I believe, because his brother was an alcoholic)

Anyway, grandpap would not permit anything to be in the house of that nature. He even forbid my grandmother
to use real vanilla in her baking. BUT HE WAS HOOKED ON UPPERS... (TRUE). His doc prescribed them back in the 50s and before cause he said there was no problem with them and grandpap needed that boost.

Now grandma would can grape juice every fall and over the year would serve it whenever we went
to visit. I never detected it having fermented, but then she always served 1/2 grape juice and 1/2 ginger ale mixed( She would fill a mason jar with grapes, add some sugar and top it with water. Then seal the lids in a bath of boiling water, and put on a shelf in the basement until it "became grape juice")A couple of months...... but my boss, many decades ago also had an aunt in his family who would can grape juice, and other fruit juices.

He would laugh every time he told the story about how after some time went by that the family would come calling and all would praise the juice they were served. IT HAD FERMENTED and the aunt had no idea. She just thought it was supposed to be that way.

 

[Phoneman777]

Our senses are not always reliable. And I know that from personal experience. That's one reason why manufacturers put expiration dates on many perishables...including some beverages...including some wines.

Why do papists always resort to implausible "plausible deniability"? Of course, we can tell if what we sip is juice or booze.

Recovery centers specifically for alcoholic priests and nuns? In all honesty, no. I've never head of anything like that. But that doesn't mean there aren't any. And it would certainly make sense that there are places like that.

Unfamiliarity with the facts is not a valid argument against them.

Look, I get that some people abhor alcohol. But to make the claim that alcohol is "impure, corrupted, poisonous and deadly" is making an irrational judgment.

Considering alcohol is involved with countless accidental and intentional deaths, as well as enslaving 1 out of every 7 to life-destroying addiction, I'll not even dignify this accusation of irrationality with a response.

The difference that you don't seem to want to acknowledge is that alcohol can be consumed safely.

And papists refuse to acknowledge God told us not to even look at booze, much less drink it.

What would you do if you discovered that Christ really DID drink wine and not "grape juice"?

Why do you insist He drank booze when no evidence for this has been discovered?

Would he no longer be invited into your 'club'?

He doesn't join clubs - we join His club by agreeing to and complying with the terms of membership.

 

[amigo de christo]

And, do you not understand the catholic church can't possibly be Christ's end time church of today?

Christ's "remnant" aka "end times" church will be identical to the church He established and keep the same commandments, according to Revelation 12:17 KJV and Revelation 14:12 KJV.

Catholicism by her own words disqualifies herself as that church, seeing she makes it her boast that she's changed Christ's laws and demands catholics adhere to the laws of the church, not the laws of Christ.

There's no other way around this truth: the papacy (the union of catholicism and the secular authorities) is not Christ's church - it's the antichrist system of Bible prophecy from which God is calling sincere catholics out: "Come out from her, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins and receive not of her plagues".

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

As if he thought the religious words coming out of his own mouth were bs.

He was rolling his eyes at the catholic doctrine which is BS... bad speech!

The book of James is a problem.

Not for the Lord Who spo0ke it... it's not.

The reason some don't accept the book of James is because... it's doesn't agree with the false doctrine.

They ignore other portions of scripture too and for the same reason.

It's called... being a Cherry Picker!

According to what I've read, not only will the "papacy rise again" but non-catholics will extend their full support - because satan is going to counterfeit Jesus' Second Coming and point to the papacy as "God's representative on Earth".

Since, unfortunately, most "protestants" who no longer protest have swallowed Jesuit "Left Behind" Futurism or Jesuit "Long Ago" Preterism and don't know a single thing about Protestant "Light of Truth" Historicism which brought Christianity out of the darkness of the Dark Ages during the glorious, God-ordained Protestant Reformation, doing so won't require much effort.

Yep, that's already happening as many claiming to be Christians are now accepting catholics and they unbiblical teachings as being Christian.

Anytime I hear someone in person claim the catholics pope if God's representative on earth... I laugh out loud!

Another reason why they don't like for me to visit any of their false churches.

I just put you on ignore.

Yeah, I'm sure he's all tore up about that

It's not unreasonable to insist on civility. "Let the minds clash, but keep the fists down". - Luther

Yeah... luther, the known drunk!

BUT HE WAS HOOKED ON UPPERS... (TRUE). His doc prescribed them back in the 50s

Yeah, lots of folks take anything a doctors says or does as being all good.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

He was rolling his eyes at the catholic doctrine which is BS... bad speech!



Not for the Lord Who spo0ke it... it's not.

The reason some don't accept the book of James is because... it's doesn't agree with the false doctrine.

Don't ya just wonder why people will listen to something said/written when it sounds like common sense to them?

I wonder that it is accepted coming from James, the Just... Jesus' brother.

Brothers of Jesus - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Etymology[edit]​

According to context, the Greek plural noun ἀδελφοί (adelphoi), from a- ('same') and delphys ('womb'),[1] may mean physical brothers, physical brothers and sisters, figurative brothers, or figurative brothers and sisters.[6] Adelphoi sometimes means more than a blood brother, e.g., Gen 29:12; Rom 9:3 (kinsman); Matt 5:22-23 (neighbor); Mark 6:17-18 (step-brother). In such instances the context must determine the meaning.[7] Adelphoi is distinct from anepsios, meaning cousin, nephew, niece, and this word is never used to describe James and the other siblings of Jesus.[8] Although neither Hebrew nor Aramaic had a word for "cousin", both customarily spoke of a cousin as a "son of an uncle" (Heb. ben dod; Aram. bar dad)[7] and the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Old Testament, never translates either expression as "brother" or "sister".[7]

They ignore other portions of scripture too and for the same reason.

It's called... being a Cherry Picker!
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Yep, that's already happening as many claiming to be Christians are now accepting catholics and they unbiblical teachings as being Christian.

Anytime I hear someone in person claim the catholics pope if God's representative on earth... I laugh out loud!

Well, if they had an ounce of evidence I could be convinced.... but word of mouth????

Was James the Real Leader of the Early Church?

The 15th chapter of Acts is significant for its desc...

www.catholic.com

The 15th chapter of Acts is significant for its description of the first council of the Christian Church, providing insights into the inner workings of the early Church and the relationships among key leaders. The chapter is also notable as a battleground for ongoing, current-day disputes over Church authority. On one side stands the Catholic Church, upholding Peter as the foremost apostle and leader of the universal Church. In opposition, in a diverse array of attitudes, stands a host of scholars and theologians who claim that James, the “brother of Jesus” (Mk 6:3; Gal 1:19) was the leader of the early Church, perhaps even the first pope.

Another reason why they don't like for me to visit any of their false churches.




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This Luther?

Martin Luther - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Martin Luther OSA (/ ˈ l uː θ ər /; German: [ˈmaʁtiːn ˈlʊtɐ] ⓘ; 10 November 1483 - 18 February 1546) was a German priest, theologian, author, hymnwriter, professor, and Augustinian friar.

ordained to the priesthood in 1507

He came to reject several teachings and practices of the Roman Catholic Church; in particular, he disputed the view on indulgences.

Luther taught that salvation and, consequently, eternal life are not earned by good deeds; rather, they are received only as the free gift of God's grace through the believer's faith in Jesus Christ, the redeemer from sin. (Guess that did not sit well with Rome, and added to his excommunication)

His theology challenged the authority and office of the pope by teaching that the Bible is the only source of divinely revealed knowledge

Luther came to understand justification as entirely the work of God.

OK... I'll stop before I digress more. The link is a terrific read.

Yeah, lots of folks take anything a doctors says or does as being all good.

 

[rockytopva]

Leadership... The success of any church depends upon its leadership. I would not recommend any church denomination without knowing the leadership. Not every leader who stands behind the pulpit is called of God to preach.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Well, if they had an ounce of evidence I could be convinced.... but word of mouth????

Yep, lots of the traditions in catholic circles comes from word of mouth...

We should mess with them and start a new one... "thou shalt hang upside down on the monkee bars that the local middle school to get a special Christmas card in the mail from Mary, Mother of Jesus... it will, arrive in the mail if Mary approves your request"
All we gotta do is claim the early church did this... and there would be people flocking to the monkee bars!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

This Luther?

Yes, that Luther... numerous quotes in his own writings indicated he liked to get drunk.

 

[Robert Pate]

He was rolling his eyes at the catholic doctrine which is BS... bad speech!



Not for the Lord Who spo0ke it... it's not.

The reason some don't accept the book of James is because... it's doesn't agree with the false doctrine.

They ignore other portions of scripture too and for the same reason.

It's called... being a Cherry Picker!
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Yep, that's already happening as many claiming to be Christians are now accepting catholics and they unbiblical teachings as being Christian.

Anytime I hear someone in person claim the catholics pope if God's representative on earth... I laugh out loud!

Another reason why they don't like for me to visit any of their false churches.




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Yeah, lots of folks take anything a doctors says or does as being all good.

So, you believe that Gentile Christians should be circumcised according to James, Acts 15:1-21.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

So, you believe that Gentile Christians should be circumcised according to James, Acts 15:1-21.

No, I never mentioned anything about. Why do you ask?

I think it was in the book of Acts they had a big meeting and decided this was not requited.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The thief on the cross who had done nothing but believe was saved by faith alone.

Ihr Thief couldn't perform any wirks.
He was kind of busy at the time - DYING.

Gos can and DOES maje exceptions.