NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

[Eternally Grateful]

Unsurprisingly, you're unable to answer a simple question, which continues to demonstrate the vacuity of the modernist dispensational ideology to which you subscribe.

You still can not show me where I have erred. Now you have resorted to blame shifting

I answered the question in the post you refuse to acknowledge.
Why should I keep answering the same question over and over, when you and @Fullness of the Gentiles refuse to acknowledge I answered it, and then say I did not answer it correctly. When i answered it the SAME WAY YOU DO!

Its racialized fallacies and fantasies can never extinguish the light of New Will/Testament Truth.

It is your false accusations that keep you looking like a proud person who can not defend his own belief

 

[covenantee]

You still can not show me where I have erred. Now you have resorted to blame shifting

I answered the question in the post you refuse to acknowledge.
Why should I keep answering the same question over and over, when you and @Fullness of the Gentiles refuse to acknowledge I answered it, and then say I did not answer it correctly. When i answered it the SAME WAY YOU DO!

It is your false accusations that keep you looking like a proud person who can not defend his own belief

I don't need to defend anything. Scripture defends itself.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I don't need to defend anything. Scripture defends itself.

You do need to defend your false accusations. And your refusal to show where i erred..

Scripture does not help you there.

Why are you so unwilling to show where I was wrong in what I posted. Why are you so unwilling to acknowledge I answered your question concerning the covenant of Abraham, and yet you continue to say I have not answered?

 

[covenantee]

You do need to defend your false accusations. And your refusal to show where i erred..

Scripture does not help you there.

Why are you so unwilling to show where I was wrong in what I posted. Why are you so unwilling to acknowledge I answered your question concerning the covenant of Abraham, and yet you continue to say I have not answered?

Why are you so unwilling to acknowledge that NT Scripture is speaking of the New Will/Testament, not a covenant?

And in what post number have you responded regarding 2 Corinthians 1:20 and Hebrews 1:1,2?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Why are you so unwilling to acknowledge that NT Scripture is speaking of the New Will/Testament, not a covenant?

I have not denied it It is a new will and testiment

why do you refuse to acknowledge it is also the fufillment of the covenant made to abraham, In you (christ)

And in what post number have you responded regarding 2 Corinthians 1:20 and Hebrews 1:1,2?

Those passages refere to the promise of salvation to all no matter what hey are. Through the testament and blood of Christ.

But I have said this so many times I lost count.

Continue to falsly accuse me, i will continue to call you out.

 

[covenantee]

I have not denied it It is a new will and testiment

why do you refuse to acknowledge it is also the fufillment of the covenant made to abraham, In you (christ)

Those passages refere to the promise of salvation to all no matter what hey are. Through the testament and blood of Christ.

But I have said this so many times I lost count.

Continue to falsly accuse me, i will continue to call you out.

why do you refuse to acknowledge it is also the fufillment of the covenant made to abraham, In you (christ)

Of course. In Christ. Not in Israel.

Those passages refere to the promise of salvation to all no matter what hey are. Through the testament and blood of Christ.

Why do you insist on ignoring the word "all" in those verses?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Of course. In Christ. Not in Israel.

Please show me where I have said it was in Israel.

Just one post.

Why do you insist on ignoring the word "all" in those verses?

Please show where where i ignored the word ALL..

while your at it. Please tell me when "forever" ended..

 

[covenantee]

Please show me where I have said it was in Israel.

Glad you agree that it is in Christ alone.

Please show where where i ignored the word ALL..

Glad you agree that Christ alone is the the Fulfillment of all the promises, and the Heir of all things.

while your at it. Please tell me when "forever" ended..

I showed you when "everlasting" circumcision ended. What else do you need?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Glad you agree that it is in Christ alone.

Please show me when I ever disagreed

Glad you agree that Christ alone is the the Fulfillment of all the promises, and the Heir of all things.

Please show me when I ever disagreed

I showed you when "everlasting" circumcision ended. What else do you need?

You did not answer my question. Please tell me when forever ended.

 

[covenantee]

Please show me when I ever disagreed

Glad that you never disagreed.

Please show me when I ever disagreed

Glad that you never disagreed.

You did not answer my question. Please tell me when forever ended.

Please tell me the difference between "everlasting" and "forever".

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Glad that you never disagreed.

Glad that you never disagreed.

So your admitting you falsly accused me>

Please tell me the difference between "everlasting" and "forever".

When does either end? Did God tell Abraham when it would end?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Please tell me the difference between "everlasting" and "forever".

Gen 12: 3b And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

Has this ended? or is it still in effect?

and when it says in you, what in Abraham caused the blessing to appear to all the families of the earth so they could be blessed?

 

[covenantee]

So your admitting you falsly accused me>

So you're falsely claiming that you never disagreed with me.

When does either end? Did God tell Abraham when it would end?

When did everlasting circumcision end? Did the Holy Spirit through Paul tell us when it ended?

 

[covenantee]

Gen 12: 3b And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

Has this ended? or is it still in effect?

and when it says in you, what in Abraham caused the blessing to appear to all the families of the earth so they could be blessed?

Still in effect in Christ.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So you're falsely claiming that you never disagreed with me.

Concerning this? No

concerning the national covenant between God and the nation of Israel. I disagree with you 100 %

Nice try though

When did everlasting circumcision end? Did the Holy Spirit through Paul tell us when it ended?

Who said anything about circumcision.

Once again, When does everlasting end? The abrahamic covenant is an everlasting covenant between God and abraham, Which did everlasting end?

ps. No one was ever saved because they were physically circumcised. so as far as salvation is concerned, Physical circumcision is not in question.

again, Nice try.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Still in effect in Christ.

So the abrahamic covenant is still in effect.

Thank you..

so if that is still in effect. should not ALL of that covenant still be in effect?

 

[covenantee]

Concerning this? No

concerning the national covenant between God and the nation of Israel. I disagree with you 100 %

Nice try though

Who said anything about circumcision.

Once again, When does everlasting end? The abrahamic covenant is an everlasting covenant between God and abraham, Which did everlasting end?

ps. No one was ever saved because they were physically circumcised. so as far as salvation is concerned, Physical circumcision is not in question.

again, Nice try.

Referring to circumcision, everlasting ended at Calvary.

Referring to land, forever ended at Calvary.

What else do you need?

 

[covenantee]

So the abrahamic covenant is still in effect.

Thank you..

so if that is still in effect. should not ALL of that covenant still be in effect?

Yes, still in effect in Christ.

You're welcome.

Not in land for Israel, which appears nowhere in the New Will/Testament.

Do you find it impossible to type the word "Testament"?

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Newsflash: Abraham was not a Jew.
Neither was Isaac.
Neither was Jacob/Israel
Neither were Reuben and his descendants
Neither were Gad and his descendants
Neither were Asher and his descendants
Neither were Naphtlai and his descendants
Neither were Dan and his descendants
Neither were Simeon and his descendants
Neither were Levi and his descendants
Neither were Issachar and his descendants
Neither were Zebulun and his descendants
Neither were Joseph and his descendants
Neither were Ephraim, son of Joseph, a Gentile born in Egypt to an Egyptian mother, whose seed would become the fullness of the Gentiles/a multitude of nations, and his descendants
Neither were Manasseh, son of Joseph, a Gentile born in Egypt to an Egyptian mother, and his descendants

The vast majority of all the above descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were exiled in 725 B.C, ceased being a nation before God, and became scattered among the nations, where their descendants have continued to intermarry with Gentiles in the nations to this day.

Neither was Benjamin a Jew, but the majority of his descendants eventually became amalgamated with the Jews.

Judah was the patriarch of the Jews - but Newsflash: Abraham was not a Jew.

Neither was Isaac.
Neither was Jacob/Israel.

The biblical scriptures are not about "the Jews". They are about God's promise to Abraham that he would become a father of a multitude of goy (nations), and that in Abraham's seed (Christ) all the families of the earth will be blessed.
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The biblical scriptures are about THE seed of Abraham, who is Jesus.

Hope this helps some people to overcome their obsession with "the Jews".

Hello Fullness of the Gentiles, Yes, you are correct, checking different sources from Bing

Abraham was not born a Jew. He was born in Ur of the Chaldees, which is now modern-day Iraq However, he is considered the founding father of the Jewish nation in Judaism. In Christianity, he is the spiritual progenitor of all believers, whether Jewish or non-Jewish In Islam, he is a link in the chain of Islamic prophets that begins with Adam and culminates in Muhammad.

I apologize for not being clear. I was referring to the New Testament book of Romans, chapter 2, verses 28-29 The passage explains that being a true Jew is not about being born of Jewish parents or undergoing circumcision, but rather having a heart that is right with God


I hope this helps!

Love, Walter

 

[Zao is life]

Hello Fullness of the Gentiles, Yes, you are correct, checking different sources from Bing

Abraham was not born a Jew. He was born in Ur of the Chaldees, which is now modern-day Iraq 1. However, he is considered the founding father of the Jewish nation in Judaism 1. In Christianity, he is the spiritual progenitor of all believers, whether Jewish or non-Jewish 1. In Islam, he is a link in the chain of Islamic prophets that begins with Adam and culminates in Muhammad 1.

I apologize for not being clear. I was referring to the New Testament book of Romans, chapter 2, verses 28-29 1. The passage explains that being a true Jew is not about being born of Jewish parents or undergoing circumcision, but rather having a heart that is right with God 1.


I hope this helps!

Love, Walter

This post was placed up long before I ever read anything you said, so if you thought it was in response to something you said, relax. It was in response to the squabble between others that I saw taking place in many threads. Which ended up between me and those who hate what I said in this OP also. It's not an uplifting thread.​