Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

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And God will FIGHT for Israel, again!

Zechariah 14
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
Not till those left of them get saved. Period
 

MatthewG

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I think the collective punishment and mass killing of a civilian population has been reported to God! What will happen as a result of this and other crimes is laid out in the bible. The time of Jacob's trouble is coming.
Okay.
 

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The issue was you trying to place future prophesy in the present regarding Israel. Focus
It's happening right before your eyes. You're so obsessed against Israel you're blinded.
 
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Jack

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Israel will only be here to stay once Jesus protects and restores them.
Guess who has control of Jerusalem? Let me help you, it's called Israel! The Bible Land! Israel is back. The Mark of the Beast is rapidly rising. Get a clue! This is the terminal generation. God called Israel "my people" even after they forsook Him.

Amos 9
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.
 

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Guess who has control of Jerusalem? Let me help you, it's called Israel! The Bible Land! Israel is back. The Mark of the Beast is rapidly rising. Get a clue! This is the terminal generation. God called Israel "my people" even after they forsook Him.

Amos 9
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.
Being His people in an unbelieving and backslidden state means that they do not have protection or blessing from God. Regardless of what army currently controls much of the area around Jerusalem.
 

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No. Only when they get saved in the future will that happen. You once again conflate the future with today
Then why did God call Israel "my people" while they were scattered from the Land of Israel? Your position makes no sense at all except for utter HATRED and jealousy.

Romans 11
1 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew.
 

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Being His people in an unbelieving and backslidden state means that they do not have protection or blessing from God. Regardless of what army currently controls much of the area around Jerusalem.
You should be HAPPY instead of cursing Israel all the time! You're only cursing yourself and possibly your loved ones!

Romans 11

11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.
 

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You should be HAPPY instead of cursing Israel all the time! You're only cursing yourself and possibly your loved ones!

Romans 11

11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.
Romans 11 does say they will be saved at the end of the world as do the OT prophets. But see, they deny all of the scriptures are speaking of any real Jewish Israelites existing today. They claim all these people are fake, Europeans who have assumed the identity. But that begs the question why all the end times prophesies of those people coming to Christ at the end of the age, if they don't even exist today. I prefer to believe the scriptures over their POV.
 

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Romans 11 does say they will be saved at the end of the world as do the OT prophets. But see, they deny all of the scriptures are speaking of any real Jewish Israelites existing today. They claim all these people are fake, Europeans who have assumed the identity. But that begs the question why all the end times prophesies of those people coming to Christ at the end of the age, if they don't even exist today. I prefer to believe the scriptures over their POV.
If they just had their genealogy the twelve tribes would still be identifiable today. All of their work was destroyed in 70Ad. There is not any way for anyone to know. That’s why fighting continues in that land.

Love the Israelites, however if they don’t have their genealogy how can they decide who’s who?
 

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They are obviously in the land before they come to Christ as Zechariah describes. First they are gathered from all their scattered places and God brings them back to that land, then the nations go up to fight them, and only when in dire straights and losing, does the Lord appoint them to salvation in Christ and they are become believers. And then the Lord God fights for them destroying all the nations that came up against them, What is saved is a remnant, specifically a third of them.

Romans 11:26
And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;

Zechariah 13
“In that day a fountain shall be opened for the house of David and for the inhabitants of Jerusalem, for sin and for uncleanness.
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And it shall come to pass in all the land,”
Says the Lord,
That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die,
But one-third shall be left in it:
9 I will bring the one-third through the fire,
Will refine them as silver is refined,
And test them as gold is tested.
They will call on My name,
And I will answer them.
I will say, ‘This is My people’;
And each one will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’ ”
 

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They always documented though, Who is from who, just like the geneaology of Christ. If they dont have geneaology records, then its a free for all @Scott Downey. Thats why I believe God divorced israel already, people say there is no believers in Jesus over there, but there are… not every land is desolated with nothing but unbelievers. There people out there in abrogines places that probably look to God, and dont even know Jesus.

God is good and he looks at the heart.