Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

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Hamas does not care about this life nor anyone in it. Including their fellow citizens. Obviously.
Why deflect from the terror being inflicted on Gaza? Are they not important also? Are we supposed to forget thousands of kids and families are being killed and always think only about terrorism Israel suffered?
 

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Why deflect from the terror being inflicted on Gaza? Are they not important also? Are we supposed to forget thousands of kids and families are being killed and always think only about terrorism Israel suffered?
 

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Why deflect from the terror being inflicted on Gaza? Are they not important also? Are we supposed to forget thousands of kids and families are being killed and always think only about terrorism Israel suffered?
Deflect? lol
You're an expert at deflecting what Hamas CAUSED! At least you think you are.
 
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Who was the first person that you claim was Hamas?

The word for violence and wickedness in the Bible just happens to be the same as the name of the Muslim terror group: Hamas. Of course, they are different languages so it’s not the same thing exactly, but nonetheless, a fitting coincidence. The first mention of the Hebrew word, “hamas” appears in the story of Noah. And it just so happens that this is the very passage of the Torah (Torah portion) that Jews around the world will have been reading in the wake of the massacre by Hamas.

So the Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I am sorry that I have made them.” But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord. These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God. And Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight, and the earth was filled with violence. [Hamas]” (Genesis 6:7-11).

Noah's ark, while God dealt with violence (Hamas) on the earth
God was ready to wipe out the evil that had filled the earth. We were supposed to be fruitful and multiply, to fill the earth and subdue it, but instead mankind filled the earth with violence (hamas). Instead of bearing life as we were supposed to, people were stealing, killing, and destroying.
 

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Toddlers were not initiators. One news source I saw today claimed something like 240 kids a day were being killed

And you believe them?
Lets see.... maybe that came from "The View?" Oh no...... they are loaded with Trump hating Jews there.

MSNBC OR CNN? It was not FOX or Newmax.

I notice @dad rarely provides links to shore up his charges....
They must be from some conspiracy source... like Hal Turner who is suggesting Russia is somehow involved and
demanding an end to the Ukraine war they cannot win because they don't have the funding or the arms...

Seems like Putin might be taking advantage of this situation to gain more land for himself.....

Is it possible?... I think so cause all sights are now on Israel/Hamas/ and Iran. So could Putin or even Xi instigated this... especially with the bosom buddys Xi has with Iran.....

All the while Biden wont even consider doing anything to even check if any of Hamas or other terror people are now in this country thanks to his dementia....

Whether or not you hate or love the Jewish people.... what a sad day it is for an alleged Christian to
be cheering on the destruction of and entire group of people that his supposed savior hailed from.

We have no idea of the bloodlines in that country that could be traced back to Mary..... IOW Jesus...
and dont say it is impossible because I managed to trace one leg of mine back to BC days before it stopped.
 
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Today during the Myorikis hearing.

Senator Hawley questioning ....
HAMAS formed in late 1987 at the beginning of the first Palestinian intifada (uprising). Its roots are in the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, and it is supported by a robust sociopolitical structure inside the Palestinian Territories

The 1948 Arab–Israeli War, also known as the First Arab–Israeli War, followed the civil war in Mandatory Palestine as the second and final stage of the 1948 Palestine war.

So Hamas started the conflict, even before Hamas was formed.

Look it up and figure it out ....The rest of us are light years ahead of you ....

Israel has told the Palestinians to evacuate. Hamas has told the Palestinians. "Stand here and die for us" Most of that at gunpoint ....Hamas is forbidding American Palestinians from exiting into Egypt .....

It's obvious who the "Satanic element" is that exists in Gaza

Keep bombing until the rats turn on Hamas ....

And DAD .....you have no solution, typical for a pacifist liberal ...
 
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Just war is not blowing up apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment after convoy, apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment apartment after apartment in my book.
Wow, I didn't know there were that many apartments. Are you sure? There is only 1 convoy in there ... should be more ti add to your book.

There are up to 30k Hamas in Gaza. If they just killed some and then stopped, they would just regroup and do the same in the near future. ISRAEL has had enough and so Netanyahu says, If you are a Hamas, consider yourself dead. They need to sweep the whole area, all the tunnels completely - finish the job. And then go after Hezbollah, take care them and then opps ... I hate to say it, IRAN. Personally, they are the head if the snake, supplying terrorism to many countries and it won't stop.
The end of the story spoiler: Jesusbreturns a destroys all nations who attack Jerusalem and there will be ten. Iran is conjuring other nations as we speak. Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon, Iran is meeting with Turkey this week. Russia is already their ally, so four more needed. That is the story, Armageddon.
 
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Why deflect from the terror being inflicted on Gaza? Are they not important also? Are we supposed to forget thousands of kids and families are being killed and always think only about terrorism Israel suffered?
I really don't think many here are swallowing your pro Hamas agenda.
 
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Toddlers were not initiators. One news source I saw today claimed something like 240 kids a day were being killed
Oh, thats’s terrible

If you are so opposed to IDF bombing apartment buildings, where is the pressure to get Hamas out of apartment buildings, schools, hospitals and religious buildings? Where are the Imams's demand that all Jihadi's leave such sanctuaries out of concern for Palestinian civilians?

Not the way to go.
Why that not the way to go since Hamas can save 100% of the lives in question by not using human shields?
 
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Some posters here seem to feel that owning the land meant being registered as a nation. I do not think that matters. If they were there and owned houses and groves etc then they owned the land before the Jewish population flooded in. God gave the land to no one today because He will give it to believers one day. Unless you have a solid bible case that He gave it to unbelievers?
He will give it back to the origional owners he gave it to. Because he made a promise to their fathers. and he keeps their promises.. It will be given to believers one day, But jewih or Israel believers, Not gentile believers, they will live in peace in their own land.


God allowed Israel to be scattered. Do they own the land when He boots them out? They will own it one day when they believe in Jesus, but that day is not now.
Yes actually they do..God allowed foreigners to live in their land

But you also need to look at prophecy. Before they are restored. they ARE in their land, They rebuild the temple. and the man of sin commits the abomination of desolation in that temple.. Then we have the time of Jacobs trouble. which brings Israel and the world to repentance (as many as will) and Christ returns..

Wiki says they were forced out
From WIKI - The area was ruled by Rome when Israel was forced out in 70AD. When constantine made Rome a christian nation, it became christian.
The area of Palestine was conquered by the Muslims in 634. The dome of the rock was completed on the the site of the Old Fortress Antonia in 691. as the muslims ruled over jerusalem. Even though the land was run by Muslims, The majority of the population was Christian and was to remain so until the conquest of Saladin in 1187.

Palestine was ruled from Egypt by semi-autonomous rulers for almost a century, beginning with the Turkish freeman Ahmad ibn Tulun, for whom both Jews and Christians prayed when he lay dying and ending with the Ikhshidid rulers. Reverence for Jerusalem increased during this period, with many of the Egyptian rulers choosing to be buried there. However, the later period became characterized by persecution of Christians as the threat from Byzantium grew. The Fatimids, with a predominantly Berber army, conquered the region in 970, a date that marks the beginning of a period of unceasing warfare between numerous enemies, which destroyed Palestine, and in particular, devastating its Jewish population. Between 1071 and 1073, Palestine was captured by the Great Seljuq Empire,[77] only to be recaptured by the Fatimids in 1098.

The crusades Christians and Muslims clash


The Fatimids again lost the region to the Crusaders (Christians) in 1099. The Crusaders set up[79] the Kingdom of Jerusalem (1099–1291).[80] Their control of Jerusalem and most of Palestine lasted almost a century until their defeat by Saladin's forces in 1187

n 1486, hostilities broke out between the Mamluks and the Ottoman Empire in a battle for control over western Asia, and the Ottomans conquered Palestine in 1516.[87] Between the mid-16th and 17th centuries, a close-knit alliance of three local dynasties, the Ridwans of Gaza, the Turabays of al-Lajjun and the Farrukhs of Nablus, governed Palestine on behalf of the Porte (imperial Ottoman government).

The ottoman empire

n the 18th century, the Zaydani clan under the leadership of Zahir al-Umar ruled large parts of Palestine autonomously until the Ottomans were able to defeat them in their Galilee strongholds in 1775–76

between 1830 and 1840 Several muslim nations (egypt and syria) clashed and fought for power.

The British Invasion

The British began their Sinai and Palestine Campaign in 1915. The war reached southern Palestine in 1917, progressing to Gaza and around Jerusalem by the end of the year. The British secured Jerusalem in December 1917. They moved into the Jordan valley in 1918 and a campaign by the Entente into northern Palestine led to victory at Megiddo in September.

The British were formally awarded the mandate to govern the region in 1922. The non-Jewish Palestinians revolted in 1920, 1929, and 1936. In 1947, following World War II and The Holocaust, the British Government announced its desire to terminate the Mandate, and the United Nations General Assembly adopted in November 1947 a Resolution 181(II) recommending partition into an Arab state, a Jewish state and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem.[107] The Jewish leadership accepted the proposal, but the Arab Higher Committee rejected it; a civil war began immediately after the Resolution's adoption. The State of Israel was declared in May 1948.

One thing you can see until 1940. is the jews, the christians and the muslims all lived in the area. With the arabs and christians fighting to take control. or conquering each other.

In 1948. England (who ruled) wanted to give the jews and the muslims their own lands there. to seperate them into two nations.. The jews accepted the proposal THE MUSLIMS DID NOT.. and thus STARTED THE WARS



What Christians?

Israel had the distinction of being God's people. When they rejected Jesus God allowed them to be scattered all over. So historical rights do not apply for God's people. What applies is if they are obeying and believing. So as far as God goes, we can't say He brought them there yet as far as I can tell from Scripture.
My point was you cannot say the the jews were forcing people out and only them. From the time God gave the land to Israel people have been forcing each other out for centuries.. The land has been a battle zone and will continue to be a battle zone until Christ returns..
 

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Deflect? lol
You're an expert at deflecting what Hamas CAUSED! At least you think you are.
Nothing caused anyone to have to bombard a heavily populated area. They should either go after the shooters, or stay home. If they can't do that, do not blow up babies. Them should be the rules
 

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Nothing caused anyone to have to bombard a heavily populated area. They should either go after the shooters, or stay home. If they can't do that, do not blow up babies. Them should be the rules
God bless Israel! And He will too!
 

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Lets see.... maybe that came from "The View?" Oh no...... they are loaded with Trump hating Jews there.
No idea what you are talking about. It does sound almost racist though
MSNBC OR CNN? It was not FOX or Newmax.
I tend not to watch Canadian or US news (although I keep an eye on them a little) for much the same reason I don't shower in a sewer or get a weather report from a bubble gum wrapper. I used to look at a few Jewish papers as well as Arab ones for a balance on mid east news. Now I avoid Israeli news because I feel it lost credibility for reports on the Gaza situation.
Seems like Putin might be taking advantage of this situation to gain more land for himself.....
Hah, the old Russian conspiracy charge. How small minded
Is it possible?... I think so cause all sights are now on Israel/Hamas/ and Iran. So could Putin or even Xi instigated this... especially with the bosom buddys Xi has with Iran.....
The delusional paranoid plot thickens
All the while Biden wont even consider doing anything to even check if any of Hamas or other terror people are now in this country thanks to his dementia....
You expected him to grow a brain or conscience suddenly?
Whether or not you hate or love the Jewish people.... what a sad day it is for an alleged Christian to
be cheering on the destruction of and entire group of people that his supposed savior hailed from.
This Christian is saying he does not cheer the wholesale murder of children actually. Bo Christian would as far as I can imagine. I have an issue with those that do for some reason.
We have no idea of the bloodlines in that country that could be traced back to Mary..... IOW Jesus...
and dont say it is impossible because I managed to trace one leg of mine back to BC days before it stopped.
We should care about 'bloodlines', why?
 

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Wow, I didn't know there were that many apartments. Are you sure? There is only 1 convoy in there ... should be more ti add to your book.
In a highly populated little area there are a lot of them. That is a shock for you?
There are up to 30k Hamas in Gaza. If they just killed some and then stopped, they would just regroup and do the same in the near future.
Pitiful excuse for decimating a population
ISRAEL has had enough and so Netanyahu says, If you are a Hamas, consider yourself dead.
Looking at bible prophesy, we would say the same thing for most of Israel
They need to sweep the whole area, all the tunnels completely - finish the job. And then go after Hezbollah, take care them and then opps ... I hate to say it, IRAN. Personally, they are the head if the snake, supplying terrorism to many countries and it won't stop.
The end of the story spoiler: Jesusbreturns a destroys all nations who attack Jerusalem and there will be ten.
Weak opinion. Ten kings will be used to rule the world, that does not mean only ten nations will surround Israel