Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

[Jack]

God will say when He restore Israel. That will not be while they are in unbelief. Until then Israel has no right to the land or any promises.

Total nonsense! Israel is back. Get a map. Watch the news. Which world do you live in? Why are you OBSESSED against Israel like the Devil? I'm not the only one who here who sees your agenda against Israel. The only one you're fooling is yourself!

 

[dad]

Total nonsense! Israel is back. Get a map. Watch the news. Which world do you live in? Why are you OBSESSED against Israel like the Devil? I'm not the only one who here who sees your agenda against Israel. The only one you're fooling is yourself!

No, An unbelieving nation was set up called Israel, It is not protected by God and the people there do not believe in God. Israel is there as prophesy says, and it will be decimated as prophesy says. Most of them are anything but here to stay!

 

[Jack]

No, An unbelieving nation was set up called Israel, It is not protected by God and the people there do not believe in God. Israel is there as prophesy says, and it will be decimated as prophesy says. Most of them are anything but here to stay!

Israel will be "decimated"? You're hoping? Can you read English?

Amos 9
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them. 15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Hamas was founded in the late 1980, the first war happened in 1948.. You do understand 1948 happened before 1987… How the hell did Hamas start the war if they weren’t even created when the war started… freaking unreal.

OK, @Truthnightmare

You want a truth??? Hamas has been with us since Noah... which is going all the way back to Genesis. (I'll let you do your own research on this.

There is nothing new on this earth regarding the creation of mankind, just that names being changed to protect the innocent or perhaps a revival when some feel it be appropriate.

Do you even know or have you looked into why they are called Hamas?

https://www.oneforisrael.org/news/israel-at-war/did-you-know-hamas-is-in-the-bible/

DID YOU KNOW HAMAS IS IN THE BIBLE?​

The word for violence and wickedness in the Bible just happens to be the same as the name of the Muslim terror group: Hamas. Of course, they are different languages so it’s not the same thing exactly, but nonetheless, a fitting coincidence. The first mention of the Hebrew word, “hamas” appears in the story of Noah. And it just so happens that this is the very passage of the Torah (Torah portion) that Jews around the world will have been reading in the wake of the massacre by Hamas.

So the Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I am sorry that I have made them.” But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord. These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God. And Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight, and the earth was filled with violence. [Hamas]” (Genesis 6:7-11).

And there have been wicked onslaughts against the people (I will not say Jew because you or someone will twist that into they cant be jews because they dont have the right pedigrees or some other nonsense as that... in FULL denial that as all living today can, could, and should trace theirs back to Noah, and his sons and the wives.)

..... wicked onslaughts against the people that God in His judgement and by His choice chose to give a chunk of land to Israel.

NOW LEARN SOMETHING and you and all might gleen a glimpse of understanding.....

This link should be printed and kept in your bible.

What is the land that God promised to Israel? | GotQuestions.org

What is the land that God promised to Israel? What are the borders of the territory God gave to the Israelites as an inheritance?

www.gotquestions.org

What is the land that God promised to Israel?​

There is probably no more disputed real estate on earth than the land of Israel. Even calling it “Israel” will raise objections from some quarters. The Jewish people lay claim to the land because they first held possession of it millennia ago and because God directly gave them the land, as recorded in the Bible.

In Genesis 12:7, God promises Abram, who had just arrived in Canaan, “To your offspring I will give this land.” Later, in Genesis 15:18, God expands on that unconditional promise: “To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates” (NASB). Then, in Genesis 17:8, God reiterates the promise to Abraham, adding that the land gift is irrevocable: “The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you.” God later repeats the promise to Abraham’s son Isaac (Genesis 26:3–4) and Isaac’s son Jacob (Genesis 28:13), whose name God later changed to Israel.

In the Abrahamic Covenant, then, God laid out the extent of the land that would belong to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob—a territory including all of Canaan and stretching from Egypt to modern-day Iraq. Several centuries later, when it came time for the Israelites actually take possession of the Promised Land, God again spoke of a vast area “from the Negev wilderness in the south to the Lebanon mountains in the north, from the Euphrates River in the east to the Mediterranean Sea in the west, including all the land of the Hittites” (Joshua 1:4, NLT).

The promise of land belonging to the children of Israel is permanent. Even when Israel was expelled from their land, which has happened twice in history, God promised they would return: “Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the LORD your God will gather you and bring you back. He will bring you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will take possession of it” (Deuteronomy 30:4–5). This promise is part of what is today sometimes called the Palestinian Covenant or the Land Covenant (Deuteronomy 29:1—30:10).

In foretelling the removal of Israel from their land, the Palestinian Covenant anticipated the Babylonian Captivity (586 BC) and the Roman destruction of Jerusalem (AD 70). In both cases, the promise of the covenant held true: the Jews regained their land and their nation in 537 BC and again in AD 1948. Israel is still in their land, despite the fact that their conquerors, Babylon and Rome, are long gone. All of this reinforces the promises made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that God would establish Israel in their land as His chosen people (Deuteronomy 29:13). The Land Covenant also contains some special promises to Israel that many believe will not be completely fulfilled until the millennial reign of Christ.

According to Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4, the land God gave to Israel included everything from the Nile River in Egypt to Lebanon (south to north) and everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Euphrates River (west to east). On today’s map, the land God has stated belongs to Israel includes everything modern-day Israel possesses, plus all of the territory occupied by the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Thus, Israel currently possesses only a fraction of the land God has promised; the rest of their inheritance likely awaits the return of the Messiah, Jesus Christ. God has given His word that the nation of Israel will never cease as long as the sun still shines by day and the moon and stars still shine by night (Jeremiah 31:35–37).

You should research "Why Middle East Muslims are taught to hate Jews"

From this link Why Middle East Muslims are taught to hate Jews comes a very small dialog with a 3 year old...

Consider this infamous dialogue between a 3-year-old and a television presenter

Presenter: “Do you like Jews?”

3-year-old: “No.”

“Why don’t you like them?”

“Jews are apes and pigs.”

“Who said this?”

“Our God.”

“Where did he say this?”

“In the Koran.”

The presenter responds approvingly: “No [parents] could wish for Allah to give them a more believing girl than she ... May Allah bless her, her father, and mother.”

This conversation was not caught on hidden camera or taped by propagandists. It was featured on a prominent program called “Muslim Woman Magazine” and broadcast by Iqraa, the popular Saudi-owned satellite channel.

Ill stop now because you wont understand... but JEALOUSY is ingrained in some and will never go away.

5 people truly were at the start of what many will say not so cause the blood lines dont track to today. They are wrong. Abraham, Sarah, and Isaac ~ Hagar and Ishmael

Read Genesis 17 "The Lord’s Fifth Promise to Abraham" and especially where Abraham

18 Then Abraham said to God, “Why not let Ishmael be my heir?”

19 God replied, “No! Your wife Sarah will give you a son, and you will name him Isaac [He Laughs]. I will make an everlasting promise to him and his descendants. 20 I have heard your request about Ishmael. Yes, I will bless him, make him fertile, and increase the number of his descendants. He will be the father of 12 princes, and I will make him a great nation. 21 But I will make my promise to Isaac. Sarah will give birth to him at this time next year.” 22 When God finished speaking with Abraham, he left him.

But through Isaac came God's chosen.....

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

God will say when He restore Israel. That will not be while they are in unbelief. Until then Israel has no right to the land or any promises.

Who are you to take away what God already gave. And long before Jesus was even a twinkling in someones eye.

What is the land that God promised to Israel? ​

What is the land that God promised to Israel? What are the borders of the territory God gave to the Israelites as an inheritance?
www.gotquestions.org

What is the land that God promised to Israel?​

There is probably no more disputed real estate on earth than the land of Israel. Even calling it “Israel” will raise objections from some quarters. The Jewish people lay claim to the land because they first held possession of it millennia ago and because God directly gave them the land, as recorded in the Bible.

In Genesis 12:7, God promises Abram, who had just arrived in Canaan, “To your offspring I will give this land.” Later, in Genesis 15:18, God expands on that unconditional promise: “To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates” (NASB). Then, in Genesis 17:8, God reiterates the promise to Abraham, adding that the land gift is irrevocable: “The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you.” God later repeats the promise to Abraham’s son Isaac (Genesis 26:3–4) and Isaac’s son Jacob (Genesis 28:13), whose name God later changed to Israel.

In the Abrahamic Covenant, then, God laid out the extent of the land that would belong to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob—a territory including all of Canaan and stretching from Egypt to modern-day Iraq. Several centuries later, when it came time for the Israelites actually take possession of the Promised Land, God again spoke of a vast area “from the Negev wilderness in the south to the Lebanon mountains in the north, from the Euphrates River in the east to the Mediterranean Sea in the west, including all the land of the Hittites” (Joshua 1:4, NLT).

The promise of land belonging to the children of Israel is permanent. Even when Israel was expelled from their land, which has happened twice in history, God promised they would return: “Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the LORD your God will gather you and bring you back. He will bring you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will take possession of it” (Deuteronomy 30:4–5). This promise is part of what is today sometimes called the Palestinian Covenant or the Land Covenant (Deuteronomy 29:1—30:10).

In foretelling the removal of Israel from their land, the Palestinian Covenant anticipated the Babylonian Captivity (586 BC) and the Roman destruction of Jerusalem (AD 70). In both cases, the promise of the covenant held true: the Jews regained their land and their nation in 537 BC and again in AD 1948. Israel is still in their land, despite the fact that their conquerors, Babylon and Rome, are long gone. All of this reinforces the promises made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that God would establish Israel in their land as His chosen people (Deuteronomy 29:13). The Land Covenant also contains some special promises to Israel that many believe will not be completely fulfilled until the millennial reign of Christ.

According to Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4, the land God gave to Israel included everything from the Nile River in Egypt to Lebanon (south to north) and everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Euphrates River (west to east). On today’s map, the land God has stated belongs to Israel includes everything modern-day Israel possesses, plus all of the territory occupied by the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Thus, Israel currently possesses only a fraction of the land God has promised; the rest of their inheritance likely awaits the return of the Messiah, Jesus Christ. God has given His word that the nation of Israel will never cease as long as the sun still shines by day and the moon and stars still shine by night (Jeremiah 31:35–37).

There was only one stipulation that God gave for this...

Genesis 17

When Abram was 99 years old, the Lord appeared to him. He said to Abram, “I am God Almighty. Live in my presence with integrity. 2 I will give you my promise,[a] and I will give you very many descendants.” 3 Immediately, Abram bowed with his face touching the ground, and again God spoke to him, 4 “My promise is still with you. You will become the father of many nations. 5 So your name will no longer be Abram [Exalted Father], but Abraham [Father of Many] because I have made you a father of many nations. 6 I will give you many descendants. Many nations and kings will come from you. 7 I will make my promise to you and your descendants for generations to come as an everlasting promise. I will be your God and the God of your descendants. 8 I am also giving this land where you are living—all of Canaan—to you and your descendants as your permanent possession. And I will be your God.”

9 God also said to Abraham, “You and your descendants in generations to come are to be faithful to my promise. 10 This is how you are to be faithful to my promise: Every male among you is to be circumcised. 11 All of you must be circumcised. That will be the sign of the promise from me to you. 12 For generations to come every male child who is eight days old must be circumcised, whether he is born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner who’s not related to you. 13 Every male born in your household or bought with your money is to be circumcised without exception. So my promise will be a sign on your flesh, an everlasting promise. 14 Any uncircumcised male must be excluded from his people because he has rejected my promise.”

DO YOU UNDERSTAND YET ????



They have done what they were told.... And it was through them that came David and eventually Jesus.

God gave them the land.... You better be running scared if God allows that land to be taken from them. For if that were to happen... he also could allow Jesus' saving blood from covering you for what ever reason he chooses

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Israel will be "decimated"? You're hoping? Can you read English?

Amos 9
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them. 15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

Sadly, Many in the mainstream church are covenant theologians, they Believe God is done with Israel completely. there will be no return, their promises were now given to the church

 

[Triumph1300]

So you are a sore loser with nothing to say who likes to insult. OK

I see, I am a sore loser because I don't believe your hatred towards the Jewish people is justified.
And saying I don't believe your garbage is an insult. Ok. Got you.

 

[bluedragon]

Why does Dad get crazier with each post?

In one house invaded.....the baby was put into the oven and baked alive. The parents killed. The Mom's head decapitated and thrown away from the body.

It's amazing that Israel goes to great lengths to insure that all three of the major religions have access to Jerusalem ......Does everything in it's power to avoid killing the innocents.

 

[dad]

Israel will be "decimated"? You're hoping? Can you read English?

Amos 9
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them. 15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

Yes the bible says two thirds of them will die. I would call that decimated. The good news is that the remnant left alive will finally believe.

 

[dad]

Who are you to take away what God already gave. And long before Jesus was even a twinkling in someones eye.

He also took it away if you recall. So when they are in unbelief, they don't get protection from Him.

What is the land that God promised to Israel?​

What is the land that God promised to Israel? What are the borders of the territory God gave to the Israelites as an inheritance?
www.gotquestions.org


There was only one stipulation that God gave for this...

Genesis 17

When Abram was 99 years old, the Lord appeared to him. He said to Abram, “I am God Almighty. Live in my presence with integrity. 2 I will give you my promise,[a] and I will give you very many descendants.” 3 Immediately, Abram bowed with his face touching the ground, and again God spoke to him, 4 “My promise is still with you. You will become the father of many nations. 5 So your name will no longer be Abram [Exalted Father], but Abraham [Father of Many] because I have made you a father of many nations. 6 I will give you many descendants. Many nations and kings will come from you. 7 I will make my promise to you and your descendants for generations to come as an everlasting promise. I will be your God and the God of your descendants. 8 I am also giving this land where you are living—all of Canaan—to you and your descendants as your permanent possession. And I will be your God.”

9 God also said to Abraham, “You and your descendants in generations to come are to be faithful to my promise. 10 This is how you are to be faithful to my promise: Every male among you is to be circumcised. 11 All of you must be circumcised. That will be the sign of the promise from me to you. 12 For generations to come every male child who is eight days old must be circumcised, whether he is born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner who’s not related to you. 13 Every male born in your household or bought with your money is to be circumcised without exception. So my promise will be a sign on your flesh, an everlasting promise. 14 Any uncircumcised male must be excluded from his people because he has rejected my promise.”

At the time that was a sign of belief and obedience to God.

They have done what they were told.... And it was through them that came David and eventually Jesus.

Yes and when He came they rejected Him

God gave them the land.... You better be running scared if God allows that land to be taken from them. For if that were to happen... he also could allow Jesus' saving blood from covering you for what ever reason he chooses

No. He allowed them to be taken away in unbelief. When He restores them they will believe. Not before.

 

[dad]

I see, I am a sore loser because I don't believe your hatred towards the Jewish people is justified.
And saying I don't believe your garbage is an insult. Ok. Got you.

You can believe terrorism and mass killing of civilians if honky dory all you like, and call people who disagree 'hatred'. The truth is the opposite

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Yes the bible says two thirds of them will die. I would call that decimated. The good news is that the remnant left alive will finally believe.

I want book, chapter and verse.

 

[JohnDB]

https://x.com/IsraelMFA/status/1719022254737027405?s=20

 

[dad]

I want book, chapter and verse.

Zechariah 13:8
And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord , two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.


Zechariah 13:9
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

 

[JohnDB]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719022254737027405

 

[bluedragon]

This is what you will never hear from this clown. What is not reported by the press.

Hundreds of Palestinian Americans are trapped in Gaza. Egypt has told the United states that they will allow Palestinian Americans through the gate and into Egypt. The occupier Hamas will not allow them to leave Gaza.

The number captive is not 8, 9, 10 as claimed by the Biden Administration .....it is hundreds of Israeli and Palestinian Americans being held within Gaza ...

Hamas has been the problem all along ......This Anti Semitic clown refers to Israel as a non believing state. Nobody claimed them to be a Christian State. Hence .....He is a racist Antisemitc bigot ........

Israel, hunt them all down and execute every one ....Eradicate the rats running Gaza......

 

[RLT63]

Exactly. It is fine to kill home invaders that want to rape and kill your family I would think. Self defense. But if you were to get a gang together and go to the neighborhood they live in and blow it all up, that would be something more than self defense.

That is a noble theory. I am not sure it has application in the real world of the middle east today. But I take it you are bringing out what a Christian position would be. The problem is, as I mentioned, that some Israelcentric Christian preachers seem perfectly fine with a massive revenge operation, and even seem eager.

If the neighborhood they live in is shooting missiles at your house and trying to kill you and anyone else they can then I think you would be justified in taking them out to save your family

 

[Jack]

Sadly, Many in the mainstream church are covenant theologians, they Believe God is done with Israel completely. there will be no return, their promises were now given to the church

Very sad indeed because they start attacking / cursing Israel bringing the curse upon themselves and maybe their loved ones.

 

[Jack]

Yes the bible says two thirds of them will die. I would call that decimated. The good news is that the remnant left alive will finally believe.

That doesn't explain your constant attacks on Israel!

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Zechariah 13:8
And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord , two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.


Zechariah 13:9
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

OKAY.
I am not going to post the commentary about how Zech 13:8 also applies to christians....

But I will post this on Zechariah since he seems to be your go to prophet for all things anti-Israel.

The Prophecy in Zechariah about the fall of Gaza

From the blog of Yakov Nagen at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

The Prophecy in Zechariah about the fall of Gaza​

A message to the Christian friends of the Jewish people, for all those for whom the Bible is a source of hope and inspiration:

For the Jewish people, October 7th was our darkest hour since the Holocaust. The Hamas perpetrated unspeakable horrors reawakening past traumas. In these dark times we can find some hope in the words of the book of Zechariah that predicts a conflict with Syria, Lebanon (=Tyre and Sidon) and Gaza and foretells the fall of the leadership of Gaza. It even mentioned freedom of captives from their prisons and the call “never again”. May by the grace of God this salvation come swiftly, for the sake of the Children of Israel, for the sake of humanity.

Zechariah 9

1 A prophecy: The word of the Lord is against the land of Hadrak
and will come to rest on Damascus—
for the eyes of all people and all the tribes of Israel
are on the Lord.
2 and on Hamath too, which borders on it,
and on Tyre and Sidon, though they are very skillful.
3 Tyre has built herself a stronghold;
she has heaped up silver like dust,
and gold like the dirt of the streets.
4 But the Lord will take away her possessions
and destroy her power on the sea,
and she will be consumed by fire.
5 Ashkelon will see it and fear;
Gaza will writhe in agony,
and Ekron too, for her hope will wither.
Gaza will lose her king…. Never again will an oppressor overrun my people,
for now I am keeping watch.

Now I will grant that chapter 9 comes before chapter 13....

But your chapter of choice comes after chapter 11 where someone has asked

Is Zechariah 11:12-13 a Messianic prophecy?​

And within that question it is partially answered

Zechariah’s prophecy had a dual fulfillment: one in the prophet’s contemporary context, and one in the more distant future. The Jewish people of Zechariah’s day would be judged, as seen in the breaking of Favor, and the specific details regarding 30 pieces of silver and a potter’s field found a future fulfillment in the betrayal of Jesus Christ by Judas Iscariot.

So unless you have been given a gift of interpreting prophesy... which does not seem to be the case....

QUIT CHERRY PICKING verses for while it is my fervent prayer that this is the war that will lead to the end... but it is not.... not yet... YOU ARE WRONG