I would believe Santa blew up the hospital before I would believe Gazans blew up their own hospital
Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?
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ScottA
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No argument.
The actual definition of the word used for the seven "days" is "times." Seven days, seven times, even seventy weeks--all the same word. Either way, the seven days refers rather to the prophetic foretelling or foreshadowing given in the account of the seven days of creation...which indeed are seven "times" making up the entire history of the world.
So, yes, the Great Tribulation (all tribulation) came upon Christ in the middle of days, between the times before the cross and those after the cross...also referred to by Daniel as the time of "taking away the daily sacrifices", which Christ fulfilled on the cross.
Focus on what you want. The horrible massacres we see in Gaza demonstrate that this whole supposed self defense argument is a crock
The point you missed is that Santa no more blew up the hospital than the Gazans themselves did.
No. I believe it was Israel, just like the convoys blown up wereIt was hamas blow up hospital.
Explosion kills hundreds at Gaza hospital; Hamas and Israel trade blame
A massive blast rocked a Gaza City hospital packed with wounded and other Palestinians seeking shelter Tuesday, killing hundreds of people, the Hamas-run Health Ministry said.ktla.com
Deadly Gaza Hospital Bombing Kills Hundreds
Hamas blames Israel, but the Israeli military says it was a failed rocket launched by Palestinian Islamic Jihad.foreignpolicy.com
ScottA
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Bring your sucky complaints to God.
As for the end of "Great Tribulation", that's correct. But again (apparently), you misunderstand. Yes, Great Tribulation occurred and then He began to return after first going to the Father--as He said, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me" ("Behold" meaning even then)..."but" as Paul confirmed "each one in his own order."
All written, all true, just grossly (or "brutishly") misunderstood.
ScottA
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You are confusing the intended "confusion" from God for "gobblygook" Genesis 11:7. Like I said, take your complains to God. I am not the Author of what I have been explaining, He is.
The Great Tribulation ends when Jesus, as He said Himself returns immediately following it. Boy are you overruled!
No. Your rabid hatred for the victims of terrorism that are not Jewish seems to have blinded you. Pointing out that Israel has committed crimes against humanity that are almost unspeakable is not hatred for Israel. Pointing out the terrorists who killed Jews were evil is not hatred for Israel. I just do not like to see some people try to blame the massacred children in a hospital on the victims. Just like I would not try to blame the internment camp victims for burning themselves.
Such irony indeed!
See, you can't hide your HATRED for Israel! Do you even know where Jesus will return? It's called Israel! And He will FIGHT for Israel!
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He will fight for believers. Did you think He fought Babylon in the captivity? No, He sent Babylon to take them captive. God does not fight for unsaved people. You reap what you sow. There will be no hiding from God for Israel. He is sending them into great tribulation. He allows enemies to attack them and kill them in that time, most of them in fact. When Jesus returns Israel will be saved and then and only then will He fight for them. He hates the terrorism they inflict on children and families now. God is on the side of the innocents.
Pay attention: "Do you even know where Jesus will return? It's called Israel! And He will FIGHT for Israel!"
Zechariah 14
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
I hope you or your loved ones aren't in this group. Israel is back to stay. God fights for Israel!
The Israel who accepts Jesus in the end. Not the unbelievers, most of whom will die by then of Israel today. Hate to break it to you but He will allow enemies to punish Israel. You have it backwards
God will remember every word you speak against Israel. Unless you repent.
God is not with Israel now but against. He hates slaying innocent folks. He will only be with them after they accept Jesus in the very end. Israel is not with God either now of course. The only Israel God will restore and protect is the future Israel who gets saved. God knows a nation Israel will exist in the end time though of course.
Sit back and watch God fight for Israel, if you can.
Romans 3
1 What advantage then has the Jew, or what is the profit of circumcision?
2 Much in every way! Chiefly because to them were committed the oracles of God.
3 For what if some did not believe? Will their unbelief make the faithfulness of God without effect?
4 Certainly not!
He is on the side of the ones being bombed to death in hospitals etc. As for your verses, the context is what advantage as a Christian is there, no? The verses before that are these
Romans 2:28
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Romans 2:29
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
You do realize Israel today are not Jews inwardly? Not saved?
Wrangler
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Thank you. I will focus on what God tells me to. The blame for violence is always on the initiators of violence. In this case, Hamas - Islamic terrorists. Did you watch the video of the Palestinian explaining Hamas?
The answer to your question in the OP is No, absolutely not! Isreal should not stop. The goal is not to kill as many Palestinian children as Hamas killed Israeli children. The notion of proportionality is a Leftist construct. There was no such talk in the war against the Nazi's or Imperial Japan.
I doubt your claim of equality is even true - not that the truth is important to the Left. The goal is to prevent Hamas from having the capacity to terrorize the State of Israel again. If you want to protect Palestinian children, you ought to pressure Islamists to abandon acts of terror. Your line of thought, that the burden is on the victims of violence to restrain themselves is misplaced.
I reject Islamic apologies in any and every form.
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