Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

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The total number of Christians killed for their faith decreased slightly from 5,898 recorded cases (WWL 2022) to 5,621 (WWL 2023) - the clear exception being Sub-Saharan Africa, as outlined above. The total number of Christians abducted for faith-related reasons increased from 3,829 recorded cases (WWL 2022) to 5,259 (WWL 2023).

There has been promotion of greater tolerance in a number of Middle Eastern countries, including Bahrain (55 points) and the UAE (62 points), and also in Egypt (68 points). Unfortunately, state persecution of converts from Islam to Christianity continued unabated in Egypt. Qatar (68 points, down from 74) also has a lower persecution score this year. This was caused by the fact that no additional churches were forced to close in the WWL 2023 reporting period. However, many churches closed in the previous reporting period remained shut.

But Big Concerns

Sub-Saharan Africa (SSA) faces a vast humanitarian catastrophe, as a wave of religiously motivated violence nurtured in Nigeria (7) has swept across the region, targeting Christian populations at an alarming rate in countries like Burkina Faso (23), Cameroon (45), Mali (17) and Niger (28). Signs of jihadist expansion are also clearly visible in Mozambique (32), Congo DR (37) and other countries.

This is the disturbing finding of Open Doors’ 2023 World Watch List (WWL). The WWL ranks the nations where Christians face the most severe persecution and discrimination.

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ore than 5,600 Christians were killed for their faith last year. More than 2,100 churches were attacked or closed.

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More than 124,000 Christians were forcibly displaced from their homes because of their faith, and almost 15,000 became refugees.

Sub-Saharan Africa—the epicenter of global Christianity—is now also the epicenter of violence against Christians, as Islamist extremism has spread well beyond Nigeria.

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Be on gaurd my friend . The same govt and govts that declare this war on terroism
are the same ones that are gonna unite as one with a solution to end all terroism and to attain world peace ,
PS the solution will result in the betrayal and legalized hunting down and killing of so many true lambs
who conformed not to the lie , to the solution , to the we are one false love religion to unite all religoins as one .
Just beware , cause they are very crafity indeed . Many lambs will soon bleed for HE who bled for us .
The iron yoke of sie digital system cometh and lambs will be persecuted , hated and killed .
 
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skipped five pages,

Maybe I missed it, Dad have you fought in war?
We are at war even now my friend . The great war for the souls of men rages onwards . Let us preach JESUS CHRIST
and all biblical sound doctrine . Many lambs will bleed in the coming days and those who have us rounded up
in sie final solution of sie world order and its unified religion will truly believe they do the love gods will .
Its coming learner . But we fear it not . The lambs shall point to Christ no matter the cost . Now let all that has
breath praise the glorious LORD . forgive those who persecute you , BUT NEVER , NEVER , EVER EVER , conform
to their false love ways which came of the dragon through men of this world .
 
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Because Hamas hides behind their little bodies.

Any thoughts about the children Hamas murdered? The babies they beheaded?

Why kill children? It's an age old practice in war actually.

If you kill the future enemy when they're sucklings,infants,and children,you won't have an enemy to contend with in the future.

Which is why adults are also killed,men and women.Because they give life to those future enemies should they grow up.
Hamas are butchers of mankind and babies . but i tell us all
there is truly another monster that has killed more children than has all hamas and all wars .
Her name is abortion . Let all who name the name of JESUS CHRIST feed not nor support her threashing teeth .
Hit the trenches sister . Its all out war for the souls of men in these final hours upon earth .
WE must point to CHRIST JESUS and all biblical sound doctrine . We must truly count the cost
and prepare to even lose our life , IF IT BE SO , for JESUS sake . Remember the paradise city
OF our LORD which HE has prepared for the lambs . We win , FOR JESUS WON . We have the victory
in CHRIST JESUS . Trench time sister . be in prayer for souls to be saved and for those who spread the gospel .
Its all out war and each must do their part . Let the LORD be praised .
 
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Israel's enemies are not "saved people".

But you're defending the Hamas slaughter.
Says who?? There are lots of believers in Arab nations probably considered enemies that are saved. Of course. Israel has zero to do with salvation. Believing is Jesus saves us. And stop lying that i defend terrorists killing children. I made that clear many times here. You like to pretend that if we do not want families massacred by Israel that we 'support terror'. The opposite is true we do not like terror even from Israel.
 
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Says who?? There are lots of believers in Arab nations probably considered enemies that are saved. Of course. Israel has zero to do with salvation. Believing is Jesus saves us.
Israel is mentioned over 2500 times in the Bible. Get a clue!
 
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Says who?? There are lots of believers in Arab nations probably considered enemies that are saved. Of course. Israel has zero to do with salvation. Believing is Jesus saves us. And stop lying that i defend terrorists killing children. I made that clear many times here. You like to pretend that if we do not want families massacred by Israel that we 'support terror'. The opposite is true we do not like terror even from Israel.

Israel,Israel,blame for Israel.

How about saying Hamas, Palestinian terrorists, slaughter children,behead babies,and do not have the love of God in them.
Hamas struck Israel with thousands of rockets,first.

Israel is targeting the enemy that is trying to destroy Israel.The talons of evil united in Jihad against Israel.

 
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The quote above yours tells us he is also anti-biblical scriptures. Those clearly state Israel is the land God gave the Jews.
False. He will give it to them in the future when they are saved. He did try to give it to them in the past. He also allowed them to be removed from it! He did not give it to them today.

Amos 9:13
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord , that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt.


Amos 9:14
And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.


Amos 9:15
And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy God.
For anyone with an elementary knowledge of the bible and prophesy they know when that time is that crops will grow wonderfully etc. The Millennium.
If you want to quote Scripture get some small inkling what you are talking about.

His advancement of Hamas rhetoric perpetuates terrorism against Israel. And their babies and children,of course.
The fact that you pretend that not agreeing with terrorism of Israel killing civilians 'perpetuates terrorism' shows you are not a straight shooter.

What he and Hamas don't realize is,even the Quran says the same thing.
Who cares what it says?

... the foundation text of Islam, in fact, recognises the special link between the Jewish people and the Land of Israel. “You will find very clearly,” says Sheikh Dr Muhammad Al-Husseini, “that the traditional commentators from the eighth and ninth century onwards have uniformly interpreted the Koran to say explicitly that Eretz Yisrael has been given by God to the Jewish people as a perpetual covenant. There is no Islamic counterclaim to the Land anywhere in the traditional corpus of commentary.”
As long as they behaved they had it. When they did not He booted them out. The next time around He is giving it back to them (this time the gigantic whole promised land) is after they accept Jesus. Not before.
 

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Israel,Israel,blame for Israel.

How about saying Hamas, Palestinian terrorists, slaughter children,behead babies,and do not have the love of God in them.
Hamas struck Israel with thousands of rockets,first.

Israel is targeting the enemy that is trying to destroy Israel.The talons of evil united in Jihad against Israel.

Israel targeted highly populated civilian areas and kills hundreds. Crying about how bad Hamas also is does not justify the butchery you seek to justify.
 

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Because Hamas hides behind their little bodies.
If you know of one hiding in a certain apartment somewhere, move in and arrest him? The answer is not to kill the folks he is supposedly hiding behind.
Any thoughts about the children Hamas murdered? The babies they beheaded?
Yes. Pure evil
Why kill children? It's an age old practice in war actually.
Not a good one, Not one God likes. If He ordered an operation in Israel's past He knew who was who and was perfectly just. Israel today is on their own and anything but just by killing all those children.

Which is why adults are also killed,men and women.Because they give life to those future enemies should they grow up.

What a horrible thing to say! I would call that a hate crime.
 

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Both sides are guilty of that. While in NAM, I gave a standing order to injure, not kill. It takes 3 or more others to remove one from the battlefield. We would approach them, remove weapons and communication, treat their wounds, put them in shade leave food and water. At the nearest well travel path or road, use rocks to make an arrow along with distance in clicks. I met many from their side decades later, after they became US Citizens. I have some dirt roads named after me. Last name is Marsh. They are lenght of driveway and end at swamps or marshs.
That has what to do with it being wrong to kill kids?
 

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Israel,Israel,blame for Israel.

How about saying Hamas, Palestinian terrorists, slaughter children,behead babies,and do not have the love of God in them.
Hamas struck Israel with thousands of rockets,first.

Israel is targeting the enemy that is trying to destroy Israel.The talons of evil united in Jihad against Israel.

That is obvious. But since many Christians preach supporting Israel, it is mete to point out that they are supporting the bombing of apartments, convoys, inhuman starving and water deprivation etc.
 
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False. He will give it to them in the future when they are saved. He did try to give it to them in the past. He also allowed them to be removed from it! He did not give it to them today.

Amos 9:13
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord , that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt.


Amos 9:14
And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.


Amos 9:15
And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy God.
For anyone with an elementary knowledge of the bible and prophesy they know when that time is that crops will grow wonderfully etc. The Millennium.
If you want to quote Scripture get some small inkling what you are talking about.
Deuteronomy 4:40 "Keep his decrees and commands, which I am giving you today, so that it may go well with you and your children after you and that you may live long in the land the Lord your God gives you for all time."

In Genesis 12:7, God promises Abram, who had just arrived in Canaan, “To your offspring I will give this land.” Later, in Genesis 15:18, God expands on that unconditional promise: “To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates” (NASB). Then, in Genesis 17:8, God reiterates the promise to Abraham, adding that the land gift is irrevocable: “The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you.” God later repeats the promise to Abraham’s son Isaac (Genesis 26:3–4) and Isaac’s son Jacob (Genesis 28:13), whose name God later changed to Israel.

The fact that you pretend that not agreeing with terrorism of Israel killing civilians 'perpetuates terrorism' shows you are not a straight shooter.
You have no footing upon which to judge straight shooters. Because you are not one. And have no understanding of what it means.

Hamas has stated,they will use rape and the slaughter of children as a war tactic.

So,your defense of the evil of Hamas having to do with being occupied by Israel, is Leftist rhetoric.

That you condemn Israel repeatedly, when Hamas initiated this conflict launching thousands of rockets that destroyed men,women,and children, and then blame Israel for fighting back, is pathetic.

The , but what about the children, yarn you post is vacant of true moral outrage when you condemn Israel for fighting to insure Hamas does not slaughter their babies and rape their women, as Hamas has promised is their war strategy against Israel.
Who cares what it says?
Hamas. But then again,you talk a lot about this war while claiming to know nothing of the history that has Israel and Palestine arrived to this juncture.

You admittedly don't know what you're talking about. Yet,you condemn Israel and defend Hamas.

You don't even know scripture as pertains to the Jews having a God given right to exist!

Which you disagree with when condemning Israel fighting
back against terrorist aggression.
As long as they behaved they had it. When they did not He booted them out. The next time around He is giving it back to them (this time the gigantic whole promised land) is after they accept Jesus. Not before.
Not true. You're in a Christian forum amid Christians who read and know God's scriptures. You can't interpolate God's words, which yet again condemns Israel today,and think you are going to be believed.

Your effort is an example of you continuing your anti-Israel rhetoric.

And the God of Israel tells us,you shall answer for every word.

You will deserve that.
 

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If you know of one hiding in a certain apartment somewhere, move in and arrest him? The answer is not to kill the folks he is supposedly hiding behind.
Because those families are allies of Hamas. That's why they shelter them and hide their weapons.

Yes. Pure evil
Pure, evil?
Not a good one, Not one God likes. If He ordered an operation in Israel's past He knew who was who and was perfectly just. Israel today is on their own and anything but just by killing all those children.
You just destroyed your entire argument.

Well done. Well done indeed.
What a horrible thing to say! I would call that a hate crime.
God is guilty of a hate crime?

You really should read a Bible.