OSAS being False Doctrine!

[Ritajanice]

eph 4: 30 and do not grieve the HS by which we have been sealed unto the day of redemption.

Yes we grieve him..

The good thing is he understands where we were and where we are today.

We belong to him and arehis sheep...who go astray from time to time..or should that read..or did go astray at one time....Praise God we are now back in fellowship with him through the Spirit.

 

[Ritajanice]

oh I know

God brought me to the end of my rope. I was ready to kill myself.. I was at a dead end.. That is when God had my best friend growing up who I had not heard from in over 4 years call me..

That call rescued me..

Amen!!...completely understand all that you say here...Praise God...he NEVER took his eyes off you!!...

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Amen!!...completely understand all that you say here...Praise God...he NEVER took his eyes off you!!...

He never left nor forsook me

But the legalists in the room would say I lost my salvation then..

 

[Wrangler]

He never left nor forsook me

You do realize this is not the same as YOU forsaking and leaving him, right?

Just because Jesus is faithful does not mean YOU are faithful. And if faith is irrelevant, this universalism must be correct doctrine.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You do realize this is not the same as YOU forsaking and leaving him, right?

Just because Jesus is faithful does not mean YOU are faithful. And if faith is irrelevant, this universalism must be correct doctrine.

lol,

Yet he never left nor forsook me, even after 5 years.

You can call it universalism all you want.

When he said we have eternal life, He meant it

When he said we will never die, he meant it

When he said we have the pledge or seal of the spirit until resurrection day. he meant it

When he said he who began a good work will complete it.. he meant it.

You want to think you control your salvation. feel free..

My salvation is in the hands of God..

 

[Wrangler]

When he said we have eternal life, He meant it

Let's pretend such a sentiment is ALSO for those who don't remain "in Christ."

 

[Ritajanice]

He never left nor forsook me

Amen!!

But the legalists in the room would say I lost my salvation then..

I know....you gotta laugh at that

Just because Jesus is faithful does not mean YOU are faithful. And if faith is irrelevant, this universalism must be correct doctrine.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Let's pretend such a sentiment is ALSO for those who don't remain "in Christ."

Lets pretend a person who is in Christ can walk away from Christ.

Lets acknowledge that those who walked away were never of us. because if they were of us, they never would have left. (1 john)

 

[Ritajanice]

Lets pretend a person who is in Christ can walk away from Christ.

Lets acknowledge that those who walked away were never of us. because if they were of us, they never would have left. (1 john)

Yup!!!

Praise God for that truth...which we have in our Hearts..the Living word of God.

Which can NEVER be erased.

 

[Ritajanice]

Let's pretend such a sentiment is ALSO for those who don't remain "in Christ."

How can a Born Again be UN - Birthed ?

 

[Wrangler]

Lets pretend a person who is in Christ can walk away from Christ.

The power of yes is the power of no. If we can walk to Christ, we can walk away from Christ. Jesus said we are the salf of the earth but salt that has lost its flavor will be thrown away; branches that do not bear fruit will be thrown in the fire. What do you suppose Christ was talking about?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yup!!!

Praise God for that truth...which we have in our Hearts..the Living word of God.

Which can NEVER be erased.

I think of two examples

Jonah tried to walk away. how far did he get?

And Elijah ran and hid.. how far did he get. and what Did God tell him?

 

[Ritajanice]

The power of yes is the power of no. If we can walk to Christ, we can walk away from Christ. Jesus said we are the salf of the earth but salt that has lost its flavor will be thrown away; branches that do not bear fruit will be thrown in the fire. What do you suppose Christ was talking about?

We must be birthed into Christ?

How does that happen?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The power of yes is the power of no. If we can walk to Christ, we can walk away from Christ. Jesus said we are the salf of the earth but salt that has lost its flavor will be thrown away; branches that do not bear fruit will be thrown in the fire. What do you suppose Christ was talking about?

lol

1st. walking to christ is more than just walking toward him.

second. God does not fail us. to say you TRUST HIM, then to say you lost faith in him. is contradictory

we lose faith in people who fail us.. or people we actually never really trusted to begin with

which is why John said, they were never of us.

 

[Ritajanice]

And Elijah ran and hid.. how far did he get. and what Did God tell him?

Tell me as in honesty I don’t know?

I didn’t want to cheat and look it up.LOL

 

[Wrangler]

We must be birthed into Christ?

How does that happen?

Can't answer a question with a question.

 

[Wrangler]

1st. walking to christ is more than just walking toward him.

No, it's not. LOL

A is A. A is not > A.

second. God does not fail us. to say you TRUST HIM, then to say you lost faith in him. is contradictory

You want to confuse the trustworthiness of God with our free will to choose to sin - evern after repenting to Christ.

Amd I almost did not notice that you did not actually answer my questions.

 

[Ritajanice]

Can't answer a question with a question.

I will let the Spirit of God talk.

He says it much better than I.. @Wrangler LOL

Do you agree?

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Tell me as in honesty I don’t know?

I didn’t want to cheat and look it up.LOL

Elijah went and hid. and God came,,Then Elijah went to a cave. and God came there too

Then God told him to go do something, and Elijah did it..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No, it's not. LOL

A is A. A is not > A.


You want to confuse the trustworthiness of God with our free will to choose to sin - evern after repenting to Christ.

Amd I almost did not notice that you did not actually answer my questions.

ah so where we have it

You think your sinless right? (I forgot)

So to you it is not just walking away and becoming a non believer. it is knowing to do right, yet choosing to sit on the couch and not doing it. because your tired..