False Teaching: Mary died a virgin. Biblical Proof Mary had children.

[Sigma]

You pray to her , So yes you do . Pray to GOD in JESUS name . HE IS GOD . pray not to angels , to saints
or to any other . Pray TO GOD .

Do you want to continue telling me what we Catholics are doing, despite our objections, because you want to believe we pray to others like we do to God? Would you want me to continually tell you what you believe or do as a protestant, even after you express your objections, and explain why you don't do this or that?

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Do you want to continue telling me what we Catholics are doing, despite our objections, because you want to believe we pray to others like we do to God? Would you want me to continually tell you what you believe or do as a protestant, even after you express your objections, and explain why you don't do this or that?

Well, from a family of Catholics I know when they would pray to say... St. Anthony

After loosing something the following...

St. Anthony, perfect imitator of Jesus, who received from God the special power of restoring lost things, grant that I may find [name the item] which has been lost. At least restore to me peace and tranquility of mind, the loss of which has afflicted me even more than my material loss. To this favor, I ask another of you: that I may always remain in possession of the true good that is God. Let me rather lose all things than lose God, my supreme good. Let me never suffer the loss of my greatest treasure, eternal life with God. Amen

Is this praying to him as a deity? No... but not far from praying as one might to Jesus.

A novena to St Francis of Assissi

Glorious Saint Francis, who voluntarily renounced all the comforts and riches of thy home to follow more perfectly the life of poverty and abnegation of Jesus Christ: Obtain for us, we pray, a generous contempt of all things in this world, that we may secure the true and eternal things of heaven.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. Amen.

OR

O glorious Saint Francis, who during the whole course of thy life continually wept over the passion of the Redeemer, and labored most zealously for the salvation of souls: Obtain for us, we pray, the grace of weeping continually over those sins by which we have crucified afresh Our Lord Jesus Christ, that we may attain to be of the number of those who shall eternally bless His supreme mercy.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. Amen.

OR

O glorious Saint Francis, who, loving above all things suffering and the Cross, merited to bear in thy body the miraculous stigmata, by which thou becamest a living image of Jesus Christ crucified: Obtain for us, we pray, the grace to bear in our bodies the mortifications of Christ, that we may merit one day to receive the consolations which are infallibly promised to all those who now weep.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. Amen.

Finally, for now....

Because you feel that you cannot approach the throne of God or His Son... our only savior you need intercession?

Holy Mary, Mother of God. Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death, Amen.

How about for protection...

We fly to your protection, most holy Mother of God; please listen to our petitions and needs, and deliver us from all dangers, ever glorious and blessed Virgin Mary.

I'll stop with one final comment.

You go to confession to receive absolution.... and for your penance you are told, based on your confessed sins how many OUR FATHERS and HAIL MARYS to pray. Among other things.....

So... no matter what.... Mary IS called upon for absolution.....BY NAME. NOT HER SON JESUS

 

[Sigma]

Well, from a family of Catholics I know when they would pray to say... St. Anthony

After loosing something the following...

St. Anthony, perfect imitator of Jesus, who received from God the special power of restoring lost things, grant that I may find [name the item] which has been lost. At least restore to me peace and tranquility of mind, the loss of which has afflicted me even more than my material loss. To this favor, I ask another of you: that I may always remain in possession of the true good that is God. Let me rather lose all things than lose God, my supreme good. Let me never suffer the loss of my greatest treasure, eternal life with God. Amen

Is this praying to him as a deity? No... but not far from praying as one might to Jesus.

A novena to St Francis of Assissi

Glorious Saint Francis, who voluntarily renounced all the comforts and riches of thy home to follow more perfectly the life of poverty and abnegation of Jesus Christ: Obtain for us, we pray, a generous contempt of all things in this world, that we may secure the true and eternal things of heaven.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. Amen.

OR

O glorious Saint Francis, who during the whole course of thy life continually wept over the passion of the Redeemer, and labored most zealously for the salvation of souls: Obtain for us, we pray, the grace of weeping continually over those sins by which we have crucified afresh Our Lord Jesus Christ, that we may attain to be of the number of those who shall eternally bless His supreme mercy.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. Amen.

OR

O glorious Saint Francis, who, loving above all things suffering and the Cross, merited to bear in thy body the miraculous stigmata, by which thou becamest a living image of Jesus Christ crucified: Obtain for us, we pray, the grace to bear in our bodies the mortifications of Christ, that we may merit one day to receive the consolations which are infallibly promised to all those who now weep.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. Amen.

Finally, for now....

Because you feel that you cannot approach the throne of God or His Son... our only savior you need intercession?

Holy Mary, Mother of God. Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death, Amen.

How about for protection...

We fly to your protection, most holy Mother of God; please listen to our petitions and needs, and deliver us from all dangers, ever glorious and blessed Virgin Mary.

I'll stop with one final comment.

You go to confession to receive absolution.... and for your penance you are told, based on your confessed sins how many OUR FATHERS and HAIL MARYS to pray. Among other things.....

So... no matter what.... Mary IS called upon for absolution.....BY NAME. NOT HER SON JESUS

You should go read actual Catholic teaching on prayer and confession, etc. Or, do you want to continue believing what you want, rather than the Truth?

 

[David in NJ]

You should go read actual Catholic teaching on prayer and confession, etc. Or, do you want to continue believing what you want, rather than the Truth?

The Truth is JESUS

Gospel of John chapter 1 = "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of Grace and Truth."

Gospel of John chapter 14 = "Jesus said to him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

Your ONLY Hope is to place ALL your heart, mind and soul in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Catholicism with all of it's rituals cannot save you and has never opened the Door of Heaven for anyone.

 

[amigo de christo]

Do you want to continue telling me what we Catholics are doing, despite our objections, because you want to believe we pray to others like we do to God? Would you want me to continually tell you what you believe or do as a protestant, even after you express your objections, and explain why you don't do this or that?

I have heard quite a few catholic prayers . they pray to mary and saints . Anyone who hears one knows that .

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

You should go read actual Catholic teaching on prayer and confession, etc. Or, do you want to continue believing what you want, rather than the Truth?

Nah.... I'll let you do that.

 

[Sigma]

Nah....

Yea I didn't think so.

 

[Sigma]

I have heard quite a few catholic prayers . they pray to mary and saints . Anyone who hears one knows that .

Do you want to continue telling me what we Catholics are doing, despite our objections, because you want to believe we pray to others like we do to God? Would you want me to continually tell you what you believe or do as a protestant, even after you express your objections, and explain why you don't do this or that?

 

[Sigma]

The Truth is JESUS

Gospel of John chapter 1 = "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of Grace and Truth."

Gospel of John chapter 14 = "Jesus said to him, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

Your ONLY Hope is to place ALL your heart, mind and soul in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Catholicism with all of it's rituals cannot save you and has never opened the Door of Heaven for anyone.

You should go read actual Catholic teaching.

 

[David in NJ]

You should go read actual Catholic teaching.

I know all about catholicism and i watched my mother die praying to the false hope of Mary, Queen of Heaven.

You MUST read and BELIEVE the Gospel to escape eternal damnation = Mary cannot save you.

 

[Sigma]

I know all about catholicism and i watched my mother die praying to the false hope of Mary, Queen of Heaven.

If that's true, what did you hear your mom say?

 

[David in NJ]

If that's true, what did you hear your mom say?

Same dead repititious Hail Marys that i used to pray.

 

[Sigma]

Same dead repititious Hail Marys that i used to pray.

Which part of the Hail Mary is bad to you?

 

[David in NJ]

Which part of the Hail Mary is bad to you?

#1 - The Lord Jesus says "when you pray, do not use vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking." - Matthew 6:7

#2 - The Holy Spirit says: "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men
by which we must be saved.” - Acts 4:12

#3 - ONLY Jesus is "full of Grace" - "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of Grace and Truth." 'And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace." John chapter 1

No one else can bestow Grace unto Salvation except the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Sigma]

#1 - The Lord Jesus says "when you pray, do not use vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking." - Matthew 6:7

#2 - The Holy Spirit says: "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men
by which we must be saved.” - Acts 4:12

#3 - ONLY Jesus is "full of Grace" - "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of Grace and Truth." 'And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace." John chapter 1

No one else can bestow Grace unto Salvation except the Lord Jesus Christ.

1.	Hail Mary, full of Grace	Luke 1:28 (Hail, full of Grace)	The Angel Gabriel greets Mary with very respectful greeting used for royalty. The text doesn’t say “Mary” after Hail but it is implied. Gabriel then proclaims Mary full of Grace (full of God’s own life and love)
2.	The Lord is with You	Luke 1:28 (The Lord is with you)	This is word for word. The Angel Gabriel said that the Lord is with Mary; she is full of his Grace, his own life. h
3.	Blessed are you among Women	Luke 1:41 (Blessed are you among women)	Elizabeth is filled with the Holy Spirit; she is inspired by the 3rd person of the Blessed Trinity to proclaim that Mary is the most blessed among all women.
4.	And Blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus	Luke 1:42 (and blessed is the fruit of your womb)	Elizabeth still inspired by the Holy Spirit proclaims that the fruit of Mary’s womb, the developing Jesus, is blessed. The text doesn’t say “Jesus” after womb, but it is implied, the fruit of her womb is Jesus.
5.	Holy Mary, Mother of God	Luke 1:43 (And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?)	Mary is full of God’s grace; this would make her holy. Mary is the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ who is the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity. Since Jesus is God this makes her the mother of God. She is the mother of the God-Man Jesus, not the mother of the Trinity.
6.	Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death	James 5:16 (Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects)

 

[David in NJ]

1.	Hail Mary, full of Grace	Luke 1:28 (Hail, full of Grace)	The Angel Gabriel greets Mary with very respectful greeting used for royalty. The text doesn’t say “Mary” after Hail but it is implied. Gabriel then proclaims Mary full of Grace (full of God’s own life and love)
2.	The Lord is with You	Luke 1:28 (The Lord is with you)	This is word for word. The Angel Gabriel said that the Lord is with Mary; she is full of his Grace, his own life. h
3.	Blessed are you among Women	Luke 1:41 (Blessed are you among women)	Elizabeth is filled with the Holy Spirit; she is inspired by the 3rd person of the Blessed Trinity to proclaim that Mary is the most blessed among all women.
4.	And Blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus	Luke 1:42 (and blessed is the fruit of your womb)	Elizabeth still inspired by the Holy Spirit proclaims that the fruit of Mary’s womb, the developing Jesus, is blessed. The text doesn’t say “Jesus” after womb, but it is implied, the fruit of her womb is Jesus.
5.	Holy Mary, Mother of God	Luke 1:43 (And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?)	Mary is full of God’s grace; this would make her holy. Mary is the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ who is the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity. Since Jesus is God this makes her the mother of God. She is the mother of the God-Man Jesus, not the mother of the Trinity.
6.	Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death	James 5:16 (Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects)

Luke 1:26-28
Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!”

No where in the Holy Bible does it say Mary was "full of grace" = ONLY Jesus is Full of Grace by which we can be saved.

To claim that Mary was full of grace is anti-christ.

Also, the Lord is with ALL who belong to Him thru the saving Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[amigo de christo]

#1 - The Lord Jesus says "when you pray, do not use vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking." - Matthew 6:7

#2 - The Holy Spirit says: "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men
by which we must be saved.” - Acts 4:12

#3 - ONLY Jesus is "full of Grace" - "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of Grace and Truth." 'And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace." John chapter 1

No one else can bestow Grace unto Salvation except the Lord Jesus Christ.

POINT TO CHRIST JESUS TILL THE LAST BREATH MY FRIEND . Raise those hands and let the LORD be praised .

 

[David in NJ]

1.	Hail Mary, full of Grace	Luke 1:28 (Hail, full of Grace)	The Angel Gabriel greets Mary with very respectful greeting used for royalty. The text doesn’t say “Mary” after Hail but it is implied. Gabriel then proclaims Mary full of Grace (full of God’s own life and love)
2.	The Lord is with You	Luke 1:28 (The Lord is with you)	This is word for word. The Angel Gabriel said that the Lord is with Mary; she is full of his Grace, his own life. h
3.	Blessed are you among Women	Luke 1:41 (Blessed are you among women)	Elizabeth is filled with the Holy Spirit; she is inspired by the 3rd person of the Blessed Trinity to proclaim that Mary is the most blessed among all women.
4.	And Blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus	Luke 1:42 (and blessed is the fruit of your womb)	Elizabeth still inspired by the Holy Spirit proclaims that the fruit of Mary’s womb, the developing Jesus, is blessed. The text doesn’t say “Jesus” after womb, but it is implied, the fruit of her womb is Jesus.
5.	Holy Mary, Mother of God	Luke 1:43 (And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?)	Mary is full of God’s grace; this would make her holy. Mary is the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ who is the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity. Since Jesus is God this makes her the mother of God. She is the mother of the God-Man Jesus, not the mother of the Trinity.
6.	Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death	James 5:16 (Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects)

ONLY Jesus is "full of Grace" - "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of Grace and Truth." 'And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace." John chapter 1

No one else can bestow Grace unto Salvation except the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[amigo de christo]

Luke 1:26-28
Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!”

No where in the Holy Bible does it say Mary was "full of grace" = ONLY Jesus is Full of Grace by which we can be saved.

To claim that Mary was full of grace is anti-christ.

Also, the Lord is with ALL who belong to Him by the saving Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The law was given by Moses but TRUTH AND GRACE by JESUS CHRIST . take note it didnt say By JESUS and MARY .
See even mary would be repulsed to see what is going on . she would be like PRAY TO GOD , NOT ME .
I am not yalls GOD . HEED MY SON . Even peter would be repulsed by what is going on
folks praying to him and saints . THEY WOULD BE as was the angel in heaven .
WHEN Even JOHN tried to kneel before IT . HE said GET UP , WORSHIP GOD
This has got to end , i am so worried for so many people . POINT TO JESUS CHRIST my friend . KEEP ON , KEEPING ON
IN the glorious LORD .

 

[amigo de christo]

ONLY Jesus is "full of Grace" - "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of Grace and Truth." 'And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace." John chapter 1

No one else can bestow Grace unto Salvation except the Lord Jesus Christ.

Even the angel told john , YOU WORSHIP GOD .
He had to rebuke JOHN twice for kneeling down before him .
Its time we put the emphasis and worship back on WHOM it belongs . GOD , HIS CHRIST .
Keep on , keeping on in the LORD my friend .