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amigo de christo

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You are right. Find common ground, and act for the common good. Pass laws and enforce them for the common good. For example, we all agree we need to save the planet right?
Please tell me this is sarchasm . WE have no need to save the planet , THAT IS MANS LIE
by which he creates and has created a false religoin .
My goodness barny if you were serious about this , you are much farther infected than i ever did think .
I TRIED TO TELL YA this in IN THE ADVENTIST camp . YOU all are being duped big time
IF YOU believe in this save the planet stuff , passing laws for common good stuff .
IT aint about common good at all with these folks . THIS world , WILL be destroyed .
JESUS never came preaching WORLD PEACE . Nor did he come to establish it .
WORLD PEACE COMETH in the NEW HEAVENS and NEW EARTH . NOT BY MEN . OH dear you are in grave danger barney .
IF YOU really believe this . You are a citizen of francis and other men and yet i BET you dont realize it .
Seven moutains , common ground , etc , ITS all a sham barney . BESS FLEE IT
and let us return to simply reaching as many as we can FOR CHRIST before this ol world BE DESTROYED
and all who committed evil ALONG with it .
 

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You are right. Find common ground, and act for the common good. Pass laws and enforce them for the common good. For example, we all agree we need to save the planet right?
I was speaking AGAINST common ground . this lie is what is and has been destroying the churches .
OH my goodness barney . FLEE IT . This common ground good for humanity and the planet
IS BIG TIME FORMING the one world religoin .
WHEN DID JESUS EVER SAY TO find common ground with those who DENY HIM
and do it for world peace and good . HE said rather shake the dust off your feet if they DO NOT RECIEVE HIM .
THIS COMMON GROUND STUFF , all that stuff i was talking about IS THE PROBLEM .
ITS COMING FROM MEN who desire total power and control OVER the world .
TIS COMING FROM MEN WHO DO NOT KNOW GOD at all .
FLEE IT BARNEY . FLEE IT .
 

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You are right. Find common ground, and act for the common good. Pass laws and enforce them for the common good. For example, we all agree we need to save the planet right?
OH i agree we do need to save the peoples on the planet .
ONLY ONE WAY TO DO THAT . preach JESUS , NOT COMMON GROUND
not trying to come together with all to find COMMON GROUND and save the earth .
PREACH THE GOSPEL brake lite . I was speaking AGAINST COMMON GROUND .
That is the means by which they have and are creating a one world religoin that serves THEIR GOALS .
 

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Trinity is but a word my friend . What is in the BIBLE is truth . what is in those four gospels IS FOR CHRISTAINS
and every word JESUS ever said WILL JUDGE those who denied HIM . That be a fact my friend .
Now it depends on what is meant by GOD is in control .
GOD TRULY IS IN CONTROL . BUT that dont mean HE causes the evil to do evil
HE ALLOWS IT pardner . He dont CONTROL THE ACTIONS OF THE EVIL . HE ALLOWS IT .
BUT HE is in control . Meaning He himself allows it .
Now as far as water baptism being relevant . IT IS . but again its not what SAVED US .
SEE some folks teach the water baptism is the event that did save us . NOPE .
IF SO just go dunk every human and ta da i guess they saved no matter what they believed . Exactly .
Again most folks take things dead wrong .
HOWEVER the early church did water baptize . THUS WE OUGHT TOO .
THERE is a reason for all things . HOWEVER , this is a serious point to make , DONT just go get water baptized
by any joe tom or etc just cause YOU THINK you must . AKA i had rather have died ten trillion
of the worst suffering tormental deaths than to EVER HEED POPE francis and or get water baptized by such wicked men .
The water baptism is important . BUT ITS FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST that SAVED US .
EVERY WORD JESUS said , the letters of the apostels , ARE FOR US . well they are for the lambs i should say .
You are in serious error yourself . YOU did what ROME DID and many others have . YOU PICK AND CHOSE
what parts to follow and parts to omit . THUS in essence you areright
things the RCC taught SURE are within protestantism . YOU YOURSELF are a sign of it . YOU PICK and choose
just like the pharisees , just like rome and just like many others . IN other words
YOU THE ONE GUILTY of exactly what you are accusing others of ...............
DO LET THAT SINK In a bit .
AND here is the serious problem . NOT that you know the RCC is dangerous
but the fact that like calivin , YOU picked out the WRONG THINGS TO ACCUSE .
Its nothing more than jospeh smith , WHO KNEW some truths about the condition of the church
yet he himself also attacked things that were RIGHT . TIME TO OPEN that bible peter who lags
AND READ AND SIMPLY BELIEVE .

I'm not Catholic and so we disagree on everything.
 

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I'm not Catholic and so we disagree on everything.
are you sure you not catholic . Let me explain with a few questions .
Cause if you agree with this that i am about to write , YOU ARE ALREADY UNDER THE INFLUENCE of the last hour goal of theirs .
What do you think about this common ground stuff
this breaking down walls , this building bridges , this community builders
this all inclusive gospel love stuff .
What do you think about rick warren
about pope francis
about those who allow imams and others to come into churches to show us where we all agree stuff .
HOW do you view this save the planet stuff , green agenda
this we are one stuff .
This seeker friendly stuff
this , well this list can get real long .
SO how about you just answering those questions for now .
 
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Actually "THE rest" that we are to "enter into" is Jesus, who is Himself the KoG (John 3:3-8).
Mat. 11
[29] Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
ABSOLUTELY = JESUS is the 7th Day of God's REST for us who Believe = John 3:16 also agrees with John 3:38
 
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are you sure you not catholic . Let me explain with a few questions .
Cause if you agree with this that i am about to write , YOU ARE ALREADY UNDER THE INFLUENCE of the last hour goal of theirs .
What do you think about this common ground stuff
this breaking down walls , this building bridges , this community builders
this all inclusive gospel love stuff .
What do you think about rick warren
about pope francis
about those who allow imams and others to come into churches to show us where we all agree stuff .
HOW do you view this save the planet stuff , green agenda
this we are one stuff .
This seeker friendly stuff
this , well this list can get real long .
SO how about you just answering those questions for now .

I don't have any common ground.
Pope's are all the same... evil.
Who's Rick Warren?

What has been abundantly clear in recent years and throughout history is that Islam doesn't coexist with anyone. Christians are slaughtered all over the world by Islam and we keep pretending like it isn't happening and welcoming it into our Christian nations.

Save the Planet is from the Left.
 

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I don't have any common ground.
Pope's are all the same... evil.
Who's Rick Warren?

What has been abundantly clear in recent years and throughout history is that Islam doesn't coexist with anyone. Christians are slaughtered all over the world by Islam and we keep pretending like it isn't happening and welcoming it into our Christian nations.

Save the Planet is from the Left.
Yes save the planet is from sie one world agenda . YEP .
As far as islam , they a false religon too .
yep .
But even they have been invaded from within to come as one with all other religoins to the table
of the one worlds agenda of a false love that simply unifies all to be as one
And believing they all serve the same GOD . ITS ALL FALSE .
as far as rick warren , HE is the one who wrote the purpose driven life , Or LIE .
It was a means to recreate the way we evangelize . HE even later PRAISED THIS POPE FRANCIS HUGE .
see a lot of the protestant realm is in BED with the agenda . Its all about this coming together as one .
Its mother is a harlot and its father is the dragon . but most folks and more and more folks
see it as GOD and HIS LOVE for UNITY and world peace . NOT A GOOD SIGN at all . Many are buying
THE LIE . the LIE that shall merge them all as one right under the dragon , right under the beast .
 
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I don't have any common ground.
Pope's are all the same... evil.
Who's Rick Warren?

What has been abundantly clear in recent years and throughout history is that Islam doesn't coexist with anyone. Christians are slaughtered all over the world by Islam and we keep pretending like it isn't happening and welcoming it into our Christian nations.

Save the Planet is from the Left.
correct , true believers have no common ground with the world . Nor the false religoins of the world .
But try telling that to a lot within christendom today . We got major problems in the building .
 
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Calm down mate. I was quoting the Vatican's own press releases. That's what they say, not me. And I'm not Barney.
OH you scared me friend . I thought it was you . that scared me half to death . at least be happy
that i did correct it . PHEW and WEE . man i was thinking you actually beleived that stuff . oh praise GOD YOU DONT .
 

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Calm down mate. I was quoting the Vatican's own press releases. That's what they say, not me. And I'm not Barney.
Phew and wee i feel a lot better . Easy mistake my friend . I seen the words and thought they were yours .
OH let the LORD be praised you dont beleive that junk .
 

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Burner of ears let us not over think things . YOU just said we must be careful that we do not love the law , i mean that is what worship is .
Nope! That is not what I said.
In my post #1457 I said: "Becareful that you do not worship the 10C Law above God and Jesus, who within Himself broke not a one of those Laws at anytime, in His "thoughts" or by His deeds."

In my post #1459, I was reiterating the fact, that the Law and the sabbath DAY WAS MADE (created) for man, just as the earth was MADE (created) for man.
Therefore, we should NEVER worship or love that which is made/created by God, but rather worship/love God only, above all things.
 

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Nope! That is not what I said.
In my post #1457 I said: "Becareful that you do not worship the 10C Law above God and Jesus, who within Himself broke not a one of those Laws at anytime, in His "thoughts" or by His deeds."

In my post #1459, I was reiterating the fact, that the Law and the sabbath DAY WAS MADE (created) for man, just as the earth was MADE (created) for man.
Therefore, we should NEVER worship or love that which is made/created by God, but rather worship/love God only, above all things.
Yet when it cometh to the WORDS of GOD , one who loveth them , LOVETH HE WHO INSPIRED THEM .
Thus when folks try and holler YE WORSHIP the BIBLE more than GOD . THAT MAKES ZERO SENSE .
They say it cause they have a problem with some things written and no likey when some folks use GODS OWN WORDS
to correct their SIN LOVIN behavoir . IF we love GOD who we have not seen , WE have not seen ,
we have not with our eyes seen , WE WOULD HAVE LOVED HIS WORDS . I mean DID THEY NOT come forth from HIM .
Do be encouraged , but this gringo sticks to scripture and makes zero apologies for doing so .
Not saying you have a problem with me doing that . I say that for ALL WHO READS THIS . This flea of a dog
who desires ZERO worship of man is going out hard no matter the cost .
THE SPIRIT as my guide , The BIBLE IN MY HAND and not straying from a word of it .
I wish to GOD others would have done the same . How do we KNOW what we hear cometh of GOD
and not rather just a feeling coming from our own selves . A HINT , if it contradics a WORD of JESUS
if it contradicts the original pattern both CHRIST and the apostels set . IT COMETH OF THE FLESH
it cometh of darkness , it is a lie and will cause the destruction of the hearer of it , LEST THEY CEASE from it .
SIN KILLS . JESUS GIVETH LIFE . JESUS never came so we could walk in sin .
To those who think so in any way , THEY IN DEADLY DIRE GRAVE DANGER .
JESUS came to set us FREE from OUR OWN FLESH , from sin .
And though we walk in flesh , THE SPIRIT is our guide and it rings great alarm bells when this flesh rises up
to allure and to decieve . Many have NO IDEA what i just spoke of my friend .
But then many have not the SPIRIT . IF THEY DID they would not be justifying evil
they would not be justifying why they do as they do . WHEN SIN APPEARS , AND WOE IT WILL CAUSE WE HAVE
BODIES OF FLESH , they would hear alarm bells . HATING The evil of our own flesh .
AGAIN many know not what i speak about at all . But let us learn GOD , HIS CHRIST WELL .
 

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1. Have we believed for so long, a lie that convinced us our freedoms could never be taken away, that today we fail to recognise the truth that they are already gone?

2. We know from prophecy that shortly before the second coming, amidst almost universal agreement and standing ovation, Satan will establish a global tyrannical government that will enforce a form of worship.

3. It will be so devastating to those living in those days, that Jesus Himself was compelled to ask of those times, "will the Son of man find faith in the earth"?

4. All rebellious movements, from the Luciferian rebellion in heaven, to the conflicts seen even within lawful electoral processes, are founded on the same premise. "Your government has created victims through unjust, unfair, ineffective laws. I'm here to change them".

5. The one law in God's ten commandments, the 4th, is the one law so many object to. It is also the one and only law of the 10 that identifies the Lawgiver, His position of authority, and the territory over which He rules, and can therefore be justifiably termed the "seal of God" by which His law is affirmed.

How can any objection to that law be anything other than rebellion, if the Lawmaker Himself hasn't changed, altered, modified, or abrogated that law?

On what basis therefore are you seeking to set up an alternative government, and upon whose specific authority is it to be subject to?

6. To convince the world of a lie, it takes a scheme of political manipulation through lies, with the connivance of the media, through the threat of and literal exercise of force. Such is what the world witnessed just 2 years ago, with ongoing ramifications today and a doubling down of that lie through the continuing promotion of boosters and refusal to acknowledge truth, and refusal to rehire those fired from the jobs and the resulting destruction of careers for many.

But the vaccines are inconsequential compared to...

7. The lies and force engendered by the Roman hierarchy in the 5th century and beyond to convince the Christian world that God has endowed the Roman Catholic church with the authority to change the very law of God, in particular the 4th commandment.

8. Oh. You don't agree that Rome had such authority? Then why do you willingly submit to it by obeying her tradition in place of God's commandment? Remember what the Lord said of the ambition and arrogance of the littler horn Antichrist, that he would think to change times and laws. Joining him in his charade and thinking any counterfeit is worthy of honour, is surely worshipping in vain.
And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: ‘Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctifies you.
You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh is the Sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord.
Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.
It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.’ ”
Exodus ch31
 
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And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: ‘Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctifies you.
You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh is the Sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord.
Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.
It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.’ ”
Exodus ch31
You think death is no longer the wages of sin?
 
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I haven't always been an Adventist. So yes. I was also a murderer, a thief, a philanderer, and a number of other things unworthy of mention. I would contest Paul's claim to being the chiefest of sinners. Your point being?
Since becoming a SDA have you ever done ANY work on Saturday?

Let me refresh your memory a little on the word 'ANY'
'any'
ĕn′ē

adjective​

  1. One, some, every, or all without specification.
  2. Exceeding normal limits, as in size or duration.

pronoun​

  1. Any one or more persons, things, or quantities = Numbers 15:32-36
Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.

35Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.
 
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