God through Christ has reconciled the world unto Himself.

[MatthewG]

Link Directive - All considerable information for the benefit of skeptics, believers, or unbelievers. Keep growing and maturing, look at the scriptures and seek truth, and may the spirit guide.

• #2 <- The high priest
• #3 <- All Sin Paid (past, present, future)
• #4 <- Law is good - brings us to christ
• #5 <- Let go and Let God Be - allow others to be - The greatest gift
• #6 <- How Christ makes one right with God
• #7 <- The Choice
• #8 for your consideration -> Why are faithless people claimed to be outside of the gates of the city in heaven?
• #9 for your consideration -> God tested Abraham - Abram of UR - To sacrifice his Son
• #10 for your consideration -> Romans Road (Readings)
• #11 for your consideration -> Universalism is a dangerous doctrine
• #12 for your consideration -> Different Bible Studies, and Topics (videos)
• #13 For your consideration. -> The End of Material Religion
• # 14 For your consideration. -> A FEW QUICK COMMENTS ON FULFILLMENT ESCHATOLOGY
• #15 for your consideration -> Two things even God cannot Fix
• #16 for your consideration -> Three Days in Hell

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7279746762309553454 Did you know that God has reconciled everything back to himself in and through Christ?

With the victory of Christ today, and the payment of sin, and doing away of sin, satan, death, hades, the false prophet, the beast, and also doing away of material religion with coming back and having received the first church bride, and also doing away with priesthoods (because Christ is now the high priest), no more sacrifice (Jesus was the last and final sacrifice), and because of God through Christ, he was able to reconcile the world back unto himself.

He now calls out to all people by the bride, and the spirit.

People must choose to be adopted into the faith, and allow God to become their Father.
Jesus is the way, the way, the truth and the life, and it is only by and through teaching and education, with knowledge that liberates people from religious bondage, and freedom by and through the spirit! If Sin is paid for, once on the cross, then sin is done with. It helps knowing this that the less you focus on your sin; the more you will be able to love even though you see people failing in their flesh.

With these things in mind, people have no right to look at other people and judge them by the failings of their flesh - while you can, it's okay, but it all goes back to what Jesus said judge not, least you be judge. That is measured in judging by the flesh, but Jesus paid for that sin. It done with, over with.

2 Corinthians 5:18 And all of this is a gift from God, who brought us back to himself through Christ. And God has given us this task of reconciling people to him. 19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation. 20 So we are Christ’s ambassadors; God is making his appeal through us. We speak for Christ when we plead, “Come back to God!” 21 For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin,[e] so that we could be made right with God through Christ.

Verse 18 - 19 - katallássō​

2644 katallássō (from 2596 /katá, "down to an exact point," intensifying 236 /allássō, "to change") – properly, decisively change, as when two parties reconcile when coming ("changing") to the same position.

2644 /katallássō ("decisively changed, reconciled") is applied to marriage partners (1 Cor 7:11), but usually in the redemptive sense of a sinner reconciling to the Lord.

[2644 (katallássō) was originally used for the exchange of coins; "properly, to change, exchange (especially of money); hence, of persons, to change from enmity to friendship, to reconcile" (A-S).]

God through Christ, has reconciled the world unto himself!

Praise Yahava, and the Lord Yeshua the Messiah

May we not judge people; if you do not know people.
If you do know a person; the only judgement you can make "Is the love that this person is given of Christ - self-sacrifice - all by the Spirit mentioned in Galatians 5.

1 Corinthians 13
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

I am still just a man: never trust me - always seek after the Lord Jesus Christ, and seek after God.
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Hebrews 4:14-16
Christ Is Our High Priest​

14 So then, since we have a great High Priest who has entered heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to what we believe. 15 This High Priest of ours understands our weaknesses, for he faced all of the same testings we do, yet he did not sin. 16 So let us come boldly to the throne of our gracious God. There we will receive his mercy, and we will find grace to help us when we need it most.

While the writer of Hebrews times, it was the last days, the writer writes how Jesus whom was the Son of God, let us hold firmly to what we believe. This High Priest, struggled in the flesh just as we do, because he was born in human flesh. He struggled with temptation, and he understands our weaknesses, because he faced all the trials that they had in their day. Yet. He did not sin. Because of him, you are able to go to the throne of Yahava. Whenever you want to through him.

Is that not amazing? That way when a believer does this, they find mercy, and they find grace, in trusting him to help us in times which one struggles with!

This is offered through the greatest gift Yahava, had given which was his Son. :)

 

[MatthewG]

Hebrews 7:23-28 - Christ death for sin once for all (Past, Present, Future)​

23 There were many priests under the old system, for death prevented them from remaining in office. 24 But because Jesus lives forever, his priesthood lasts forever. 25 Therefore he is able, once and forever, to save[a] those who come to God through him. He lives forever to intercede with God on their behalf.
26 He is the kind of high priest we need because he is holy and blameless, unstained by sin. He has been set apart from sinners and has been given the highest place of honor in heaven.[b] 27 Unlike those other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices every day. They did this for their own sins first and then for the sins of the people. But Jesus did this once for all when he offered himself as the sacrifice for the people’s sins. 28 The law appointed high priests who were limited by human weakness. But after the law was given, God appointed his Son with an oath, and his Son has been made the perfect High Priest forever.

The writer of Hebrews, to those people in that day, made the claim that Jesus did away with the old system by willingly dying for sin himself. He did his for it would instate the new covenant with God, which was seen when the Holy spirit had dropped in Acts 2, also the old covenant wasn't done completely yet, as the punishment for the crimes of those who killed the Son of God, was also with-in the 'contract.' Upon the return and the wrath of God being poured out on Jerusalem and the age was wrapped up. Sin is no more, as what made sin known? It was the Law of Moses, Jesus took on the sins of the world - because he fulfilled those duties.

God is not angry at you. He loves you, he cares about you, and he allows you to choose for yourself to come to him, or not. While many people have many different ideas and differences, the truth is what set an individual free. Not a collective agreed upon doctrine from others. It is truth. Truth. And that has to be something you seek out, in faith, towards God and if you seek out diligently he will reward you.

You sins you committed have been paid for; because of Jesus Christ, if you wanna know more about him, it would be up to you and my encouragement would be read your bible and see what the Gospels say about him, and the apostles and the prophets of old.

 

[MatthewG]

Released From the Law, Bound to Christ - Paul explains while the Law is good - it brings us to Christ​

7 Do you not know, brothers and sisters—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives? 2 For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.

4 So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh,[a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

There are many things about the Law, that are good, in fact spiritually beneficial, however no man will ever be able to perform them by the acts of their fleshly ways. In fact, the more you read about Paul and how explains you will see that he blames that it is the sin with-in him. There is still sometimes that sin comes up in our flesh because our flesh is inherently by nature - sinful. It comes from the mind, and our thoughts, and when we come to realize the law, and how it is right which was given to the Jewish people, you realize your need for Christ, because you will never be able to subdue your flesh without Christ, and there is no way to the Father except through Christ. As you can see here, the Law points to Christ, he frees those jewish people in that day, who were under law, but even though they were under law you had people who were still doing law but yet believed in Christ, you also had people lying and manipulating that Jesus Christ was not the sacrifice that was needed and to revert back to the law.

Truth to be set free of being bound to bondage is always something to seek for.

Today, there are people that preach Christ out of envy, and strife, and some out of a good heart. There are people that are out there who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, but they are part of an organization. If the spirit moves them to leave, they will, however, it's most certainly God who will look at the heart and see if Christ is there or not. He is a good God and the only one who reads the hearts, and again. Seek for truth and be set free and become bound to Christ with-in your heart.

 

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1 Corinthians 13 - Let Go and Let God Be - allow others to be - The Greatest Gift of All​

Love Is the Greatest​

13 If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing. 3 If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it;[a] but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
4 Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud 5 or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. 6 It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. 7 Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.
8 Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages[b] and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever! 9 Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture! 10 But when the time of perfection comes, these partial things will become useless.
11 When I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child. But when I grew up, I put away childish things. 12 Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity.[c] All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely.
13 Three things will last forever—faith, hope, and love—and the greatest of these is love.


I love these passages set forth by Paul.

While in the world full of division, be it political, or doctrine. If someone comes to you and confesses they believe that Jesus Christ is the death, burial and resurrection. Is it possible to love that brother or sister. What if they are not a believer at all? Is it possible to love them? Of course you can, in Christ. Your flesh will fail, but if you are leaning on Christ Jesus. Why does the doctrines and divisions always have to lead to separation.

Some claim you need to rebuke, or correct them. On top of that they do it without even asking; unsolicited. That doesn't help, love ... at all. Is not God whom created all people, given them the ability to think, and choose for themselves? If they are a professing believer - can you allow them to hold on to something that you may find difficult to except - how do you know they are not going by the holy spirit? Why do you feel the need to correct them or assert what you may object to? It would be because of the flesh, the flesh of us all have sin with-in it. It's okay it's just the sin with-in you which can be of pride. I know that I do have pride sometimes, however when you allow Jesus to break you as the rock and allow the Potter to renew your heart and mind. It's the spirit that causes us to love like, Paul states here above. It is also the type of love that is God.

Amazing? Don't believe me, search and look and seek for yourself.

 

[MatthewG]

Romans 5 - How Christ makes one right with God​

Faith Triumphs in Trouble​

5 Therefore, having been justified by faith, [a]we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces [b]perseverance; 4 and perseverance, [c]character; and character, hope. 5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

Christ in Our Place​

6 For when we were still without strength, [d]in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. 10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. 11 And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.

Because of Paul and his revelation of the things which Christ had done and he founded upon with-in the Old Testament. We see here that even before in chapter 4 about the faith of Abraham I believe, people who come to Christ, are justified by faith.

While at first, without God in one's life, you may have not had peace - a spiritual peace that was once before, because Paul talks through chapters 1 and 2, about those who were unbelievers, and also those who were believers but they still did not have peace they judged and condemned others for the things they did themselves and were blind to that fact, because why? They did not know God, they did not know Jesus and what he came to do.

Paul encourages those who are in Rome (who were freely at the time allowed to worship Yahava freely; and the Lord Jesus Christ); though troubles and tribulations did come, because of the faith they had brought them into a hope which was in the glory of God, and they stood in grace.

With the trials that came upon them, there was also a step forward, not a step backward in producing character - in persevering, which leads to Hope because it's Gods peace and being made right with God through faith - which presses forwards to continue to love God and love others and become conformed to Christ's image - by the Spirit with-in though our flesh can get caught on the nail of sin that is with-in us from time to time. Those who are believers are covered now by the death of Christ, however, Jesus died for the ungodly as well, those who had yet to turn to him. Those who choose to actively pursue in faith, are now saved by his life, in which Paul and so many others in their day rejoiced, in God through the Lord Jesus Christ, which they had received reconciliation.

That same offer is forwarded today, it just requires belief and faith - but at the cost of growing to know God and Jesus better, so that you can continue to have a fortified faith and stand on the foundation that has been laid out. That your house is not so easily tumbled in because of so many winds of doctrines.

Seek God, my friend, seek out who he is and what is about, seek out what he has accomplished and have faith, and trust that there is hope after this life, despite the set backs, despite the looks of others, continue to move forward and grow in faith and love, abiding in the vine that is Jesus, and allow the vinedresser Yahava, to cut you back when you need it.

 

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Epilogue: Invitation and Warning - The Choice - Revelation 22​

12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

17 The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.


While these writings were all received by the churches in Asia Minor, perhaps passed around between each other, of things to come shortly, the ending was a reminder of the beginning. Now today, just as in the Garden of Eden. There are two choices. To partake of the tree of life, or partake of the knowledge of good and evil. Partaking in the tree of life - to me resembles to partake in the bread of life, and to partake in the eternal waters. As you can see in verse 17. The Spirit and the Bride say Come!, and those who hear, also say Come!, let anyone who is thirsty (any person to come), and take the free gift of the water of life. A salvation that is given to those who choose and desire it in the heart.

Today, the same expression is here. Come! God draws people in through his promises, as it is said faith comes by hearing, but how can those hear who never heard? Except someone come to speak about it? Leaving the choice on the table for any and all, as Yahava calls, by the Spirit, and the bride (those who are part of Christ today.)

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Updated in the form of a video if anyone may be interested. #1 may Yahava bless you.

 

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What is so good about God having reconciled the world back unto himself by Christ?

It is so that all people have now access freely the ability to choose and look to the living God whom created all of the things which we see out of nothing, which said "Let there be light." Looking at the heavenly glory above which is the heavens, and the stars at night and the sun and moon, all different glories which all have their places and place, that proclaims his handiwork. Those who look upon to living God in faith, his will write his laws on the hearts and the minds of those who are his by and through the spirit of those who are believers, in the one whom created them; even if they know about how the death, burial, and resurrection may stand in the life of a believer which one carries their own cross, dies with Christ, become buried in Christ (dying to the old life), and rising against with Christ (by and through the spirit which gives the ability to overcome things by faith and trusting in God and that the Lord can get you through rather than going through things by your own will and ways, and allow his ways to come forth from you abiding in Christ for without him one can do nothing that is worth good. All the heavenly wisdom that comes, goodness, gentlness, faithfulness, kindness, wisdom, loving God first, loving others as yourself, sharing what is good and praise worthy of sharing, having love for those around you by the spirit as you grow in your relationship with knowing who you are as an adopted Child of God who can grow to be mature in the spirit being a son or daughter of God as they go about in faith, trusting and seeking out God, which always leads to loving God and loving others ulitmately.

Therefore since sin is paid for it has been paid for forever by his shed blood, death, burial and resurrection saving all mankind from the failure of sin in which they did not have to suffer the pentalty of death, that being of spiritual death, and have victory over spiritual death and also sin, the devil, the false prophet, the beast, hades, and be able to have peace with God and man because of this victory which allows people to decide which route they will choose as they go in their life. To love God, first and love others, or to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil to say. Or partake in the tree of life, which Jesus which changes life as once a person considers to see what would happen seeking God in faith and praying.

 

[MatthewG]

Thank you for anyone who has taken time to read any of the information given within this here thread.

 

[MatthewG]

Some useful information for anyone to consider. I could always be wrong about anything I present may the spirit given by God guide if you so choose to look.

 

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Bumped and bumped again.

Does that not remind this:


1 Corinthians 13:Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

 

[MatthewG]

Thanks friend. Freedom. I like look at the number of views. So I bump old threads sometimes.

 

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Bump.

 

[FaithWillDo]

Hebrews 7:23-28 - Christ death for sin once for all (Past, Present, Future)​

23 There were many priests under the old system, for death prevented them from remaining in office. 24 But because Jesus lives forever, his priesthood lasts forever. 25 Therefore he is able, once and forever, to save[a] those who come to God through him. He lives forever to intercede with God on their behalf.
26 He is the kind of high priest we need because he is holy and blameless, unstained by sin. He has been set apart from sinners and has been given the highest place of honor in heaven.[b] 27 Unlike those other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices every day. They did this for their own sins first and then for the sins of the people. But Jesus did this once for all when he offered himself as the sacrifice for the people’s sins. 28 The law appointed high priests who were limited by human weakness. But after the law was given, God appointed his Son with an oath, and his Son has been made the perfect High Priest forever.

The writer of Hebrews, to those people in that day, made the claim that Jesus did away with the old system by willingly dying for sin himself. He did his for it would instate the new covenant with God, which was seen when the Holy spirit had dropped in Acts 2, also the old covenant wasn't done completely yet, as the punishment for the crimes of those who killed the Son of God, was also with-in the 'contract.' Upon the return and the wrath of God being poured out on Jerusalem and the age was wrapped up. Sin is no more, as what made sin known? It was the Law of Moses, Jesus took on the sins of the world - because he fulfilled those duties.

God is not angry at you. He loves you, he cares about you, and he allows you to choose for yourself to come to him, or not. While many people have many different ideas and differences, the truth is what set an individual free. Not a collective agreed upon doctrine from others. It is truth. Truth. And that has to be something you seek out, in faith, towards God and if you seek out diligently he will reward you.

You sins you committed have been paid for; because of Jesus Christ, if you wanna know more about him, it would be up to you and my encouragement would be read your bible and see what the Gospels say about him, and the apostles and the prophets of old.

Dear MatthewG,
You said:
God is not angry at you. He loves you, he cares about you, and he allows you to choose for yourself to come to him, or not.

Concerning the first half of your statement, I completely agree. It is absolutely true that Christ loves all mankind and that is why He will save all mankind.

1Tim 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; 4 who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

However, the second part of your sentence is not true. Scripture teaches that when Christ is ready for an unbeliever "choose" Him, He will cause it to happen by giving the person the Early Rain of the Spirit. It can happen no other way and that is why mankind has NO WORKS to claim as their own concerning their salvation. Christ is the Savior and He does all the physical and spiritual works to make it happen.

1Cor 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.

Prov 16:1 The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD.

Christ prepares a person's heart by freely giving them the Early Rain of the Spirit. This gift is given solely by Christ's decision to give it to the person. The person does not ask for it and Christ does not ask for their permission to give it to them. After Christ gives the person the small measure of the Spirit (Early Rain), the person can no longer reject Christ when they are presented the Gospel.

Paul's conversion experience is the pattern "type" whereby all the Elect (hereafter) will be saved (1Tim 1:16). Before Paul was converted, Paul hated Christ and had no intention of becoming one of His followers. But all that changed when Christ suddenly came to Paul and gave him the Early Rain of the Spirit. Paul had no say in the matter and that is the way it will be for the rest of mankind. At a time of Christ's choosing, He will come to all mankind someday (this age or the next) and freely give them the Spirit so that their heart is prepared to accept Him as "Lord".

When a believer thinks that they made a "free will" choice to accept Christ, they are stealing from Christ who is the one who caused it to happen. All new believers will make this mistake because the spiritual work that Christ does within a person is undetectable to the individual. The evidence of Christ's free gift is the person's confession of faith that occurs when they are presented the Gospel.

Because Christ wants mankind to learn to trust Him for all their needs, the pathway to salvation is setup to develop this trust in a person. This trust is called faith. When a believer mixes their own works with faith, they are mixing the Old Covenant with the New Covenant. The Old Covenant is based on man's works to make themselves acceptable to God. The New Covenant is based solely on the works of Christ to make a person acceptable. This concept is the primary teaching that is taught throughout God's Word.

The Old Covenant is the crooked way to God. It cannot save a person because it cannot change a person from being spiritually marred and carnally minded. This crooked way of man's works is called religion and it is the way that Satan teaches. For that reason, Satan is called the crooked serpent.

The New Covenant is the straight way to God. It will save a person because it will change a person spiritually. Christ's way is called Grace through Faith.

When a new believer mixes the crooked way with the straight way of Christ, they are trying to serve two masters (Christ and Satan). When they do this mixing, they are committing the one and only sin that leads to death.

Since all new believers are "babes" who can only draw milk from the breasts, the truth of Christ's New Covenant teachings will remain concealed from them. This happens because they remain carnally minded and spiritually blind after receiving the Early Rain of the Spirit. In this condition, the new believer is easy pickings for Satan to deceive because his lies are pleasing to the new believer's carnality.

Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts (converted believers who have both the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit). 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another language (spiritual language) will he speak to this people. 12 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken (by Satan).

The primary deception of Satan teaches new believers to mix their own works with faith. Satan uses this lie to build his apostate church. This false church consists of all the different denominations/sects of Christianity that are in the world (approx. 2,000 in number).

Because all believers will be deceived by Satan (a person cannot skip being a "babe") after receiving the Early Rain, Christ must "come again" to restore the believer back to faith. In this age though, Christ will only come a second time to those individuals who have been chosen for an early salvation. They are called blessed for this reason. When Christ comes to them, He will pour out the Latter Rain of the Spirit (called the Spirit of Truth). With the baptism by the Spirit, the fallen away Elect believer's spiritual blindness will be healed. After it is, Christ will spiritually appear to the believer for the first time. When He does, judgment will fall and remove the spirit of anti-Christ and the Great Harlot (believer's carnality) from within the believer and cast them into the Lake of Fire for destruction. After this judgment is complete, the believer will be converted and will enter the Kingdom of Heaven (spiritually gathered to heaven, Mat 24:29-31).

What I briefly explained above is the pathway to salvation that Christ will cause all His Elect to travel before they die. As they travel this pathway, the believer will learn to trust Christ for their salvation which He will freely give them.

Does any of what I presented above about "works" verses faith make any sense to you?

Joe

 

[Behold]

He will cause it to happen by giving the person the Early Rain of the Spirit.

Im just curious.

If we study the mainline Denominations in The USA....

Like these.

Assembly of God
Baptist
Church of Christ
Lutheren
Methodist
Presbyterian

And if we added in Catholic...

See all those?

Not one of those, teaches a doctrine that says........ "the believer must receive the early rain of the Spirit".

So, what CULT teaches this nonsense, that has taught you to teach it @FaithWillDo ???

 

[FaithWillDo]

Im just curious.

If we study the mainline Denominations in The USA....

Like these.

Assembly of God
Baptist
Church of Christ
Lutheren
Methodist
Presbyterian

And if we added in Catholic...

See all those?

Not one of those, teaches a doctrine that says........ "the believer must receive the early rain of the Spirit".

So, what CULT teaches this nonsense, that has taught you to teach it @FaithWillDo ???

Dear Behold,
There are ZERO apostate churches (includes those you listed) which understand the Early and Latter Rain concept which is taught in scripture.

This is why John says this:

1John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

John is not talking about when Christ literally walked the earth and went to the cross. All believers understand that truth and that is why they are believers.

When Christ first comes to an individual to call them to be a saint, this is when Christ comes to a person "in the flesh" - that is what John is referencing.

Christ only appears in the flesh to the person because the Early Rain of the Spirit does not heal the person's spiritual blindness. And because the person remains carnally minded, too, Christ only appears to them in a carnal way (in the flesh). The person can understand Christ's work that led Him to the cross (Christ and Him crucified, 1Cor 2:2), but they have a great deal of difficulty understanding the spiritual teachings of Christ. It is only when Christ gives a believer the Latter Rain of the Spirit that Christ appears to them spiritually. This is when their spiritual blindness is healed and when Christ's spiritual teachings of the New Covenant fully open up to their understanding. In other words, Christ (the Word of God) is revealed to them at that time.

The truth of the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit is taught by the Apostles' conversion experience, by Paul's conversion experience and by the healing of the blindman is Mark 8:15-25.

As John says in the verse I quoted, apostate believers deny that Christ ever came to them in the flesh. By doing so, they are, in effect, denying the existence of the Early Rain of the Spirit. Apostate believers think that when they first believed in Christ, that they received the baptism of the Spirit (Latter Rain). But the truth is they only received the Early Rain of the Spirit which left them carnally minded, spiritually blind and unconverted.

Because they have only received the Early Rain of the Spirit, new believers are called "babes" who can only drawn milk (Christ and Him crucified). This level of understanding opens the door to Satan's deceptions which will readily be accepted by them all.

Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts (converted believers who have both the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit). 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another language (spiritual language) will he speak to this people. 12 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken (by Satan).

Christ teaches this truth again here:

Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself SEVEN other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

The spiritual symbol of an unclean spirit represents a spirit which teaches Satan's false truth through lies and deceptions.

Since a new believer remains spiritually blind (Mark 8:21-25) after receiving the Early Rain of the Spirit, they cannot replace their worldly false beliefs with the truth of Christ taught under the New Covenant (spiritual truths). ONE unclean spirit leaves but comes back with SEVEN more. The number "seven" represents perfection. In this case, the number seven represents the perfection of Satan's lies/deceptions which come to a believer by the indwelling of the spirit of anti-Christ. Now, instead of ONE unclean spirit within the believer, they now have EIGHT. The number eight is a spiritual symbol which represents a new spiritual condition. In this case, the new spiritual condition is worse than the first.

This "worse than the first" spiritual condition causes the believer to become a False Prophet, a Man of Sin, a Minister of Satan and a Seven Headed Beast with Ten Horns & Crowns.

Joe

 

[MatthewG]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and reasonings. May faith be continued to be had, @FaithWillDo.

I’m thankful that God is not angry with the world anymore! God allows me to choose to either have him in my life or not have him in my life since the new administration had begun! Bring all things back to the way it was in Adam and eves time and all have access to God through faith? In his resurrected son, and if they simply believe in a higher one than themselves which they believe and they give back love to God and others.

All the best,

 

[FaithWillDo]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and reasonings. May faith be continued to be had, @FaithWillDo.

I’m thankful that God is not angry with the world anymore! God allows me to choose to either have him in my life or not have him in my life since the new administration had begun! Bring all things back to the way it was in Adam and eves time and all have access to God through faith? In his resurrected son, and if they simply believe in a higher one than themselves which they believe and they give back love to God and others.

All the best,

Dear MatthewG,
You said:
God allows me to choose to either have him in my life or not

I know that your statement seems right to you but there are ZERO scriptures which teach it. In fact, scripture contradicts it.

1Cor 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.

A person must have the Spirit within them BEFORE they can decide to have him in their life or not and that decision is 100% of the time going to be to accept Him. That is why mankind's salvation is a certainty. The only question that remains is the timing of a person's salvation.

Consider what Christ told the elders and chief priests who were the ones responsible for crucifying him:

Mat 21:31 Which of the two was obeying his father?" They replied, "The first, of course." Then Jesus explained his meaning: "I assure you, corrupt tax collectors and prostitutes will get into the Kingdom of God before you do.

If Christ had no plans of saving the elders and chief priests, then why didn't Christ tell this to them? It would have been a perfect time to do so. But He didn't tell them this because it wasn't true. Christ loves all mankind, even His enemies who crucified Him - and that is why it is only a matter of "when" a person receives their salvation and not "if".

In this age, only those who have been chosen from the foundation of the world will be saved before they die. In the final age, the balance of mankind will be saved but they will suffer the loss of the rewards that the Elect receive.

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

1Cor 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward (the Elect). 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire (the balance of mankind who are saved in the Lake of Fire).

When Christ administers the judgment of the Law to the "lost" in the final age (includes the elders and chief priests), He will not omit justice, mercy and faith:

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

The penalty of sin is death, but before the "lost" perish in the Lake of Fire, Christ will have MERCY upon them. His mercy will come to them in the form of the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit which will give them their FAITH and new birth as a child of God. The new child of God will then be gathered to dwell with Christ in heaven while the child of the devil remains in the Lake of Fire to perish. This will satisfy JUSTICE. This is conversion.

What I explained above is how Christ blesses His enemies and does good to them.

Joel 2:1-27 teaches this same truth of when the lost are judged in the Lake of Fire. It is well worth reading.

Phi 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 and that every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Joe