Is Universalism Unorthodox

[amigo de christo]

Maybe you should respect your elders.

I just had a real sad thought . Due to this generation seemth to believe whatever it believes to be true .
What happens if mathew cliams to believe he is a ninety year old man . THEN he would believe himself to be the elder .
JUST making a point about something . MAN DONT DETERMINE TRUTH . GOD IS TRUTH . So how about
some correction to those sold out false love churches that seem to accept everyones truth as valid .

 

[amigo de christo]

Maybe you should respect your elders.

And what if i believe i am a hundred year old female donkey clothed in a mans body . Exactly . THIS GEN is tanked .
And while that makes me very sad for them , what ANGERS THE HECK OUT OF ME is the SOLD OUT CHURCHES
that just go with the flow of it all .

 

[MatthewG]

I just don't see where people have the authority over others, just cause they are older.

It is true that children tend to complain when things dont go there way.

@amigo de christo

God loves all his children. His children will complain from time to time, and they need to dual it out with him, not dual it out in the flesh with others cause they can't believe what people believe is different than them.

Both can love each other in the spirit...

I disagree with universalism but if someone wants to believe it, by all means. We both will find out at the end of life.

 

[St. SteVen]

I believe that if a belief counters the bible it cannot be considered orthodox at minimum.

Did Jesus succeed, or fail, at his mission?

1 John 4:14 NIV
And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.

 

[St. SteVen]

Hope that you can forgive me.

I forgive you. No worries.

 

[amigo de christo]

I just don't see where people have the authority over others, just cause they are older.

It is true that children tend to complain when things dont go there way.

@amigo de christo

The church held true elders as to be respected . Course if they taught falsehoods it too had to be corrected .
Rebuke not an elder but before two or three witness . Treat the older women as MOTHERS etc .
This gen just dont want to respect ANYTHING but ITS OWN SOLD OUT VIEWS . This gen
thinks its GOD .

 

[Jack]

Damnationism is a belief that counters the bible. Is it orthodox?
See Post #2
Unless that's the one you had deleted. (cheater?)

Mk 16 He that believeth not shall be DAMNED!

 

[MatthewG]

The church held true elders as to be respected . Course if they taught falsehoods it too had to be corrected .
Rebuke not an elder but before two or three witness . Treat the older women as MOTHERS etc .
This gen just dont want to respect ANYTHING but ITS OWN SOLD OUT VIEWS . This gen
thinks its GOD .

Okay. What are your thoughts about universalism?

 

[amigo de christo]

Mk 16 He that believeth not shall be DAMNED!

WELL THAT ALONE IS ENOUGH FOR ME TO BELEIVE .
of course the adam and eve generation the old man generation , wont beleive GOD at his WORD .
Just like eve believed the serpent when he said SURELY YE SHALL NOT DIE . THOUGH GOD HAD SAID THEY WOULD .
AND WHO ENDED UP RIGHT . GOD DID .
WHO You THINK is gonna end up right . JESUS WILL . many souls are gonna wail ON HIS DAY my friend . MANY .

 

[St. SteVen]

I just don't see where people have the authority over others, just cause they are older.

Check this out.

20 Helpful Bible Verses About Respecting Elders

Bible verses about respecting elders We are to always respect our elders whether or not if it's our parents. One day you will grow up and be respected by younger people just like them. Take the time to listen to their experiences and wisdom to grow in knowledge. If you take the time to listen to

biblereasons.com

 

[Raccoon1010]

Damnationism is a belief that counters the bible. Is it orthodox?
See Post #2
Unless that's the one you had deleted. (cheater?)

That is off topic.

 

[amigo de christo]

Okay. What are your thoughts about universalism?

THAT JESUS Never PREACHED IT ONCE .
HERE is what HE DID preach . To those who had heard and yet repented not to beleive on him
HE SAID ITS WOE UNTO THEE , ITS GONNA be worse for you on the day of judgment than ever it was for even SODOM .
And it didnt end there . All apostels shook the dust off their feet against those who rejected CHRIST .
JOHN years and years later would even remind the church of what AN ANTI CHRIST IS .
THEY who DENY JESUS as THE CHRIST , the MESSIAH , THE SAVOIR . WHO cares what my opinion is or yours .
GET IN THE BIBLE and LEARN RATHER WHAT GOD < CHRIST TAUGHT . and stop taking a few verses
out of text to support something JESUS NEVER ONCE SAID . JESUS said ANY and ALL WHO DENY HIM
who believe not , WILL be damned bud .
You better read revelation . Look also at what it says about the lake of fire
and who ends up there . TAKE NOTE it never says once they get out or are saved .
But what it does say is this , WHOEVER ADDS TOO or takes from this book , EXACTLY MATHEW .
SO STOP adding things into or about the lake of fire . LEAVE IT ALONE .
Teach rather the dire necessity to BELIEVE ON CHRIST .

 

[Raccoon1010]

I just don't see where people have the authority over others, just cause they are older.

It is true that children tend to complain when things dont go there way.

@amigo de christo

God loves all his children. His children will complain from time to time, and they need to dual it out with him, not dual it out in the flesh with others cause they can't believe what people believe is different than them.

Both can love each other in the spirit...

I disagree with universalism but if someone wants to believe it, by all means. We both will find out at the end of life.

We're getting off topic. The topic is whether or not Universalism is orthodox.

 

[Raccoon1010]

THAT JESUS Never PREACHED IT ONCE .
HERE is what HE DID preach . To those who had heard and yet repented not to beleive on him
HE SAID ITS WOE UNTO THEE , ITS GONNA be worse for you on the day of judgment than ever it was for even SODOM .
And it didnt end there . All apostels shook the dust off their feet against those who rejected CHRIST .
JOHN years and years later would even remind the church of what AN ANTI CHRIST IS .
THEY who DENY JESUS as THE CHRIST , the MESSIAH , THE SAVOIR . WHO cares what my opinion is or yours .
GET IN THE BIBLE and LEARN RATHER WHAT GOD < CHRIST TAUGHT . and stop taking a few verses
out of text to support something JESUS NEVER ONCE SAID . JESUS said ANY and ALL WHO DENY HIM
who believe not , WILL be damned bud .
You better read revelation . Look also at what it says about the lake of fire
and who ends up there . TAKE NOTE it never says once they get out or are saved .
But what it does say is this , WHOEVER ADDS TOO or takes from this book , EXACTLY MATHEW .
SO STOP adding things into or about the lake of fire . LEAVE IT ALONE .
Teach rather the dire necessity to BELIEVE ON CHRIST .

Please stay on topic.

 

[MatthewG]

We're getting off topic. The topic is whether or not Universalism is orthodox.

Okay.

 

[MatthewG]

THAT JESUS Never PREACHED IT ONCE .
HERE is what HE DID preach . To those who had heard and yet repented not to beleive on him
HE SAID ITS WOE UNTO THEE , ITS GONNA be worse for you on the day of judgment than ever it was for even SODOM .
And it didnt end there . All apostels shook the dust off their feet against those who rejected CHRIST .
JOHN years and years later would even remind the church of what AN ANTI CHRIST IS .
THEY who DENY JESUS as THE CHRIST , the MESSIAH , THE SAVOIR . WHO cares what my opinion is or yours .
GET IN THE BIBLE and LEARN RATHER WHAT GOD < CHRIST TAUGHT . and stop taking a few verses
out of text to support something JESUS NEVER ONCE SAID . JESUS said ANY and ALL WHO DENY HIM
who believe not , WILL be damned bud .
You better read revelation . Look also at what it says about the lake of fire
and who ends up there . TAKE NOTE it never says once they get out or are saved .
But what it does say is this , WHOEVER ADDS TOO or takes from this book , EXACTLY MATHEW .
SO STOP adding things into or about the lake of fire . LEAVE IT ALONE .
Teach rather the dire necessity to BELIEVE ON CHRIST .

Thank you for telling me your thoughts on universalism, it would seem you do not see it as orthodox.

 

[amigo de christo]

Please stay on topic.

pard he asked about universalism . JESUS never preached it . HE preached ALL WHO DO BEIEVE will be saved
but those who hear and believe not will be damned .
THEN in the book of revelation it specfically speaks of a lake of fire .
It never says once they get out later . IT never once implies they are saving in it , refined and later saved .
SO WHY are so many teaching this , or i should say ADDING THIS IN . cause rememer what happens to those
WHO ADD TOO that book . Shoot yeah i am gonna warn folks not to do that . Cause I LOVE FOLKS .
Devin i truly do not care if all hate me . I will never stop trying to warn and help folks . EVER and i pray to GOD i NEVER DO either .

 

[amigo de christo]

Thank you for telling me your thoughts on universalism, it would seem you do not see it as orthodox.

I see it as JESUS taught it . As far as orthodox , i havent even a clue what that means .

 

[Rockerduck]

Be friendly and stay on topic.

Ephesians 4:29-31 - Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice.

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
Damnationism is a belief that counters the bible. Is it orthodox?
See Post #2
Unless that's the one you had deleted.

That is off topic.

Oh, that's rich.
Can't discuss the orthodoxy of any other biblical doctrine of the final judgement.
Because you are ONLY targeting Christian Universalism. Obviously a witch hunt.