Why do you believe Satan is still around today? (Please read Op)

[MatthewG]

Hey, even if I lose this argument, if you can recognize the temptations when they come resist them and get clean, I'll be happy. That's a win.

Lambano

My hope is you found the verses and encouragment encouraging to you also,

All those scriptures are a help to individuals life if they partake in eating them.

All the best, and the Law Enforcement agency gave me 3 years before next report,
I would like to stay sober for the next three years.

My body is weak and it still needs recovery, need to exercise more and drink more water, gotta cut caffine out cause im super tired of not sleeping well.

Love to you,
Matthew

 

[GodisSpirit]

@St. SteVen,

The verse itself would be Revelation 20:10.
Here is how it looked at if you are genuinuely curious.View attachment 35198

Which Bible Version is this?

 

[MatthewG]

@GodisSpirit,

There is a teaching out there which I read before which says that Satan actually slept with Eve and that was why Cain was how he was.

Have you ever heard this before?

 

[MatthewG]

@GodisSpirit, its the Youngs Literal which changes forever and ever to Age to Age. This is also a commentary book from the school listed in my signature.

 

[St. SteVen]

The verse itself would be Revelation 20:10.
Here is how it looked at if you are genuinuely curious.

Well, that has not happened yet, correct?
You speak of it as though it has already happened.
This takes place AFTER the Millennium.

Revelation 20:10 NIV

The Judgment of Satan​

7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—
and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people,
the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur,
where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown.
They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

 

[GodisSpirit]

@GodisSpirit,

There is a teaching out there which I read before which says that Satan actually slept with Eve and that was why Cain was how he was.

Have you ever heard this before?

the Serpent Seed Doctrine!

I also know who originated it.

 

[MatthewG]

Well, that has not happened yet, correct?
You speak of it as though it has already happened.
This takes place AFTER the Millennium.

Revelation 20:10 NIV

The Judgment of Satan​

7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—
and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people,
the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur,
where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown.
They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

@St. SteVen, its just a history book from your comment. How does it effect you in anyway? 1000 years, is just like saying there is 1000 keys on this key ring when its really forty.

 

[GodisSpirit]

@GodisSpirit, its the Youngs Literal which changes forever and ever to Age to Age. This is also a commentary book from the school listed in my signature.

I saw the picture and thought this looks interesting.
Thank You, I will definitely be checking this out.

 

[MatthewG]

the Serpent Seed Doctrine!

I also know who originated it.

@GodisSpirit,

Who? Do you think it true or viable?

 

[St. SteVen]

Actually, this is a good point made.

If I accept Jesus as my Lord, God, Savior, and that connects me to the Father, and I receive the infilling of the Holy Spirit. If Satan is gone, Then my Salvation alone should be the Only Nature in me. So, why am I tempted to Sin? If the Originator of my Sin Nature is GONE, why am I still tempted to Sin?

By theory and reasoning alone, if Satan is gone, and I have God, I should never ever be tempted with Sin.

But I am tempted with Sin.

How can this be, if, Satan is gone, the Father of my Sin Nature?

Satan is out of the house at conversion. But...
His demons line up at "our front door" and we invite them back in.
Each bringing seven more that are worse than the originals.
See Matthew 12:43-45

@Lambano

 

[St. SteVen]

@St. SteVen, its just a history book from your comment. How does it effect you in anyway? 1000 years, is just like saying there is 1000 keys on this key ring when its really forty.

You should definitely stay away from drugs.

 

[GodisSpirit]

@GodisSpirit,

Who? Do you think it true or viable?

Knowing, who are the individuals behind this specific Doctrine are, they were caught attempting to Create a White's only segregated Church. Many Southern Baptist, like the Pastor I had growing up, till my Parents said enough of this, were not just Members of the KKK, but Leaders.

My Dad told me, and he did not see this but heard about it, our Pastor would participate in a hanging, and then in the Pulpit preaching OSAS, Predestination, Calvinism.

The Doctrine goes back a long long ways back, but it was revived in the 1960's by William Branham and Others revising the Doctrine of Wesley A. Smith.

 

[GodisSpirit]

I disagree with the Doctrine

 

[MatthewG]

No one has asked me this question,

“ Matthew if Satan is done away with today what does that mean?”

From my perspective, I believe it is just like in the beginning in the garden of Eden.

People choose to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, or they eat from the tree of life.

Does that mean people do not struggle anymore? No everyone struggles with their flesh. Everyone struggles with darkness which has been in the very beginning. It seems that darkness existed before Satan and his angels fall. Are there still things that we wrestle around with from the world? Absolutely we do spirit of greed spirit, a maliciousness spirit of hatred, spirit of lust all of these things exist within the world.

Matthew what is the solution you see?
Well, if we struggle with darkness, people are going to struggle with excepting and going into the light that burns because the light is truth.

James says that God is the father of lights. Hebrew says that God is a consuming fire. John the Baptist says that Jesus comes the baptized in the Holy Spirit and fire.

With this we all struggle around in our flesh however, the solution is the Lord Jesus Christ, who starts to burn out those dark things which reside in us, pushing out the spirit of hatred, pushing out the spirit of maliciousness, though we still struggle with it, and it comes from the world itself, and is part of our nature.

 

[GodisSpirit]

Satan is out of the house at conversion. But...
His demons line up at "our front door" and we invite them back in.
Each bringing seven more that are worse than the originals.
See Matthew 12:43-45

@Lambano

Why would God send Satan away but leave the Fallen Angels and Demons?
That is not Scriptural nor has any reasoning to it.

 

[GodisSpirit]

No one has asked me this question,

“ Matthew if Satan is done away with today what does that mean?”

From my perspective, I believe it is just like in the beginning in the garden of Eden.

People choose to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, or they eat from the tree of life.

Do you think Eve would have eaten the fruit had she not been deceived?
I think she would have never eaten it unless she was deceived.

I say that, because, why would we eat of the Tree if we are not being deceived?

 

[MatthewG]

Do you think Eve would have eaten the fruit had she not been deceived?
I think she would have never eaten it unless she was deceived.

I say that, because, why would we eat of the Tree if we are not being deceived?

@GodisSpirit,

I dont know.

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
Satan is out of the house at conversion. But...
His demons line up at "our front door" and we invite them back in.
Each bringing seven more that are worse than the originals.
See Matthew 12:43-45

Why would God send Satan away but leave the Fallen Angels and Demons?

Not what I wrote. See above.
You wrote:
"By theory and reasoning alone, if Satan is gone, and I have God, I should never ever be tempted with Sin."

That is not Scriptural nor has any reasoning to it.

I provided a scripture reference. Did you look at it?

Matthew 12:43-45 NIV
“When an impure spirit comes out of a person,
it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it.
44 Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives,
it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order.
45 Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself,
and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person
is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.”

 

[MatthewG]

@GodisSpirit,

Though I dont know.

Do you think its possible the children may have forgot and dared one of them?

That was just an assumption from someone that I have known (teacher from the school).

He said he didnt know but posed the question.

God did give them free will, it just seemed that Satan came along after his turning to the darkness away from the light though he was able to transfer back and froth from Gods presence, did he know he would be defeated, even after the promise of having his head crushed?

Perhaps going so far into darkness and misery, and pridefulness, he forgot about the promise Yahava made to him?

Cause it's like he got the title deed to heaven offering Jesus all the kingdoms, which he said he would give if he just bowed the knee.

Just thoughts, and questions; no need to answer if you do not want.

All in good faith,
Matthew

 

[Triumph1300]

Why do you believe Satan is still around today?​

It's simple, watch any news channel.
Where do you think all the bad news originates?