Once Blood Bought and Justified, Always Blood Bought and Justified? ... You Betcha!
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Thank you Ezra. The enemy of our souls just loves stuff like this [we always need to keep in mind that we're are all on the same team - the one the opposes the team from the demonic realm]. Please understand that I'm not "preaching" to either of you, I myself at times have gotten to carried away at times ... I can certainly relate to how this happens. God Bless!
subjects like this creates problems our salvation is secure but we dont use Grace as crutch to sin. we use it for if we sin..
I'm certainly not saying that you [personally] use grace as a crutch for sin; I certainly hope that you don't assume assume that I do ... you don't know anything about my walk with Christ or most everyone else in the universe for that matter that believes OJAJ. When you use terms like "we" don't use grace ... please don't make the mistake of lumping everybody in the world that rejects OJAJ together in their perspective. In other words, do you really think all those who reject OJAJ [the LOS supporters - Loss Of Salvation] also believe that all those who do believe in OJAJ [the "them"] use grace as a crutch to sin?? ... I highly doubt it. Or, do you really suppose that it's not possible for those who reject OJAJ to use grace as a crutch to sin on occasions? ... I have serious doubts about that one., but no "hard evidence".
Now, you may rightly believe that some theological models or versions of OSAS may indeed lead to an abuse of the grace of God ... I also believe that. One of my goals in my thread is to put forth, what I confidently believe, is the scriptural version of OSAS which I prefer to call OJAJ due to those counterfeit versions of OSAS.
Correct, rather than a 'license to sin,' we can take advantage Of God's Amazing Grace,
Which Is Really A Great "License to Serve":
For The Grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live
soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world" (Titus 2:11-12)
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live
soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world" (Titus 2:11-12)
Amen.
have at it all i can say on the grace crutch read romans 6 Bible Gateway passage: Romans 6 - King James Version
see you have your interpretation and i have mine btw in Calvinism the teach P.O.S those truly saved will stay the course you might fail and we will but we should find our way back. btw when i use the term its general term that includes all including me . enjoy your post
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ButterflyJones
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I no longer read them. I find thread bait to be a sinners worst vice in our forums.
No worries here dear.:)
thelord's_pearl
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Just for the sake of edification as we're taught to do in Holy Bible, the Word of God, you're accusing @Ezra of thread baiting, you shouldn't accuse anyone when you don't have evidence, that is wrong, you should always give the benefit of the doubt and as I see it, she was just expressing a different opinion and trying to help you out. If you disagree, the right thing to do is to do it respectfully, not insult anyone. I also genuinely believe in Once Saved Not Always Saved and would not like to be accused or insulted also if I express my different opinion and understanding which I very strongly believe in.
I like this post. Yes, after baptism only our past sins have been cleansed but after you believe/have faith in Christ and are baptized and made a confession of your faith, you receive the Holy Spirit which is our Helper in following Jesus and God's Word and are "born again" to be a "new beginning", a "new creature", to repent as Jesus called on us to do and to follow Him " 'deny' yourself and take up your cross and follow Me". We are to not do works of the flesh but required to do, strive for doing works by the Spirit, walk not by the flesh but to walk by the Spirit, love God and one another as ourself, all the words and instructions are written for a reason, that's the gospel.
ButterflyJones
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Edit note: my phone froze before posting. When it did post this reply was underlined. No idea why but if I try to fix it, it doesn't post any better. Apologies for the lines.
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There is one Gospel. One God. And one truth.
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There is one Gospel. One God. And one truth.
Here's the very obvious thing.
There cannot be two Gospels.
That is not an opinion.
That is a fact.
When someone proudly boasts they know OSAS and OSNAS back to front, they may indeed know the inevitable conflict such acronyms generate in a forum.
However, when they say they hold to OSNAS, they're stating they are of the opinion that is the Gospel.
It isn't. It never shall be.
Jesus didn't die to bring conditional reprieve to the world. He didn't live a sinless life, suffer excruciating torture and finally succumb to that by being nailed to a cross, just to send the message that it was all so that we could do the work to make and hopefully keep ourselves saved.
We do not save ourselves.
However, those who hold to a conditional reprieve doctrine argue precisely that when they insist we can lose our salvation.
Because to insist we can do something to vacate all that transpires at our redemption is to conversely imply we can do something to sustain it.
Which then marginalizes the work Jesus did on the cross.
Asking if Charles Manson would still be saved for some who promote conditional reprieve doctrine is often thought to be a "gotcha" hook against OSAS, the Gospel.
It isn't. And it never will be.
Now, I could take up even more room in this post than I already have so to support that.
However, the contextual Biblical texts that exist to achieve that end , were they understood, would insure OSNAS never comes to mind.
See, the Gospel isn't an opinion. Nor are its eternal irrevocable elements.
The Bible is called the word of God. However the Word that was God who dwelt among us authored his new covenant with his blood.
He gave his life to redeem ours from eternal death. So thinking eternal life and salvation from that is only achieved if we work hard is feeding that which his blood bought and redeemed us from.
Sin.
Specifically, pride, self-centeredness, ego, and greed.
We are saved by God's grace through faith. Not of ourselves so that none may boast.
Yet, that is what the OSNAS proponents are doing.
They boast that they are co-creators with Christ in attaining and retaining their conditional reprieve from their sin and damnation state. They're working hard to stay the path so as to earn their reward. Ever mindful they can stumble and lose it all.
When the truth is they're actually demonstrating themselves to be under a law of their own making. Even as some will insist the laws of God are done away. When they insist there are things one may do that revoked their salvation they imply there are things they must do in order to keep it.
Whereas OSAS, as some refer to the eternal irrevocable Gospel of eternal life, know Christ keeps us.
And any labor,works,we put forward as born again Christians is in service of God. Not in the goal of working our way to Heaven.
Jesus did the work for that what would have otherwise cost our lives.
Thinking we have to work to save it implies he didn't work hard enough.
That's not true.
And it never shall be.
When God is powerful enough to save us, he's powerful enough to keep us.
Thinking we can lose that by our choice or act implies that's not true. And never has been.
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EVERYTHING underlined?
But, does make a Very Good Scriptural point:you have got serious issues.
Amen! And, in the past tense, at our moment of birth, a LOT more - Amen?:
God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST
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God's Eternal Assurance
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God's Eternal Life Insurance
Amen.
thelord's_pearl
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there's only one gospel, that's right. it's all in the bible. the "it's not possible with man, but with God all things are possible. the Holy Spirit is given to us as our Helper to following Jesus and His words and commandments and to repent and walk not by the flesh but walk by the Spirit. for example, my mom comes home from work and is tired but wants me to make her a tea and to heat the food. I could be just lazy in the flesh and not want to do it, but what does the Spirit tell me, to get up and do it. also don't willfully/intentionally sin when you can turn away from it and know the Word. deny yourself and take up your cross and follow Me. Join with Christ and die to sin everyday. run the good race, endure to the end, faithfulness to God.
examples are:
Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. Matthew 7:21-23
Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Matthew 25:40-45
New International Version
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
Matthew 5:17-20
17'Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
I agree to this.
thelord's_pearl
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Matthew 13:36-43
The Parable of the Weeds Explained
36 Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
40 “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let them hear.
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I am just about done so I will carry on.
Precious friends, then why is there so Much Confusion over the Two Different Gospels below?:
i.e.:
I have decided to Follow Jesus?
A) Do I follow Him, and the doctrine He Spoke as The:
Humble Christ, on the earth, To Israel, 12 apostles, Under The Law/covenants
/Prophecy:
1) Repent (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!") or perish
(Luk 13:3,5 Mar 1:4 24:47)
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2) believe the gospel of the kingdom (Mat 4:23, 9:35, 24:14; Mar 1:14,15)
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3) be baptized "For the remission of sin" (Mar 1:4 Luk 3:3, 7:29:30, 24:47;
Act 2:38)
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4) "show works meet for repentance" (Mat 3:8), because,
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5) "to the twelve tribes of Israel," "faith Without works is dead"
(Jam 1:1, 2:17,26)
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6) "keep the commandments" to "enter life" (Mat 19:17)
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7) "one thing thou lackest...sell ALL/take up cross/follow Jesus"
(Mar 10:17-23)
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8) pray as a watchman, for Great Tribulation, man of sin, son of perdition, and
signs of the end times, and Second Coming?
Do I follow His earthly prophecy program of covenants and law?
( OT, Mat - John, Heb - Rev ) or:
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)
B) Do I follow Him As The Risen And Glorified "Head Of His Church" and:
His Heavenly Grace Program, According To The Revelation Of The Mystery?
(His Doctrine in Romans - Philemon)
1) Have repentance toward God (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!")
(Acts 20:21)
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2) Have faith toward The LORD Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21), and trust/believe The Gospel
Of The Grace Of God: His Death, Burial, And Resurrection, According To The Scripture
(Ephesians 2:5-9; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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3) Acknowledge I am Spiritually Baptized By The ONE Baptism Of The Holy Spirit
Into The ONE (Spiritual Organism) Body Of Christ, Seated In the Heavenlies
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27; Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13)
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4) Acknowledge Christ Is Living in me, so I allow Him to, through me:
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5) To Fulfil:
All Of His Law, In ONE Word: ►► love ◄◄ thy neighbor
as thyself!" (Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)
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6) Study God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided to show myself "Approved Unto God"
(2 Timothy 2:15), and all the rest of these Bible study Rules
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7) Work with my hands to "give to them in need," and the LORD "shall supply all my need"
(Ephesians 4:28; 1 Thessalonians 4:11-12; 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12; 1 Timothy 5:8)
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8) Be a humble prayer warrior and:
"...look, watch, and Patiently WAIT For..." = The LORD Jesus Christ!
(2 Thessalonians 2:1; Romans 8:18-19; Romans 8:23; Romans 8:25; 1 Corinthians 1:7;
Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10;
1 Thessalonians 5:5-11; Titus 2:13)
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9) Put on the FULL armour of God and stand, in the spiritual warfare I wrestle with
(Ephesians 6:10-18)
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10)
Eph 6:19 "And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I
may open my mouth boldly, to make known the Mystery Of The Gospel,"
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11)
Eph 3:9 "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of The Mystery, which from the
beginning of the world hath been hid in God, Who created all things by Jesus Christ"
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12) Acknowledge that I am going to give an account at Judgment (1 Corinthians 3:8-15;
Romans 14:12), at my Heavenly Home-Going ( Great GRACE Departure! )
According to these and all the details of God's Sound Doctrinal Blueprint In
Romans Through Philemon? (1 Timothy 1:10; 2 Timothy 4:3; Titus 1:9):
Titus 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:
Or:
C) Do I speak after following the Many, who homogenize A) + B) into
Massive Confusion?
Amen.
ButterflyJones
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"
All Of His Law, In ONE Word: ►► love ◄◄ thy neighbor
as thyself!"
You left out the first of the two commands under that umbrella of love.
Love God with all your heart and mind.
It isn't confusing if you let the separation barriers that confuse many to drop.
I'll give you a hint.
Abraham/Abram (a Gentile)=Father of many nations.
We are all one in Christ. No Jew, Gentile, Greek, male, female.
God's laws are written on our hearts so we are not far from them.
The idea that God's laws no longer apply is therefore wrong. We know that inside and out.
you have took something completely out of hand your little fleshly statement the osnas doctrine makes God a liar . you refused to answer any questions instead started call my post bait. if i wanted to bait you i could do it..
Justified & Preserved by the Faith of Christ - Part 1
Galatians 2:16,20,”Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ [pistis Christou], even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ [pistis Christou], and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”…[vs.20],” I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God [pistis Christou], who loved me, and gave himself for me.” [KJV]
The expression “faith of Christ” appears in Galatians in 2:16 (twice); 2:20 [‘Son of God’]; and 3:22. It appears elsewhere in Romans 3:22, Philippians 3:9, and Eph.3:12 [‘faith of him’].
The earlier standard of English Protestant translations, the KJV, translated the phrase as “faith of Christ,” which was changed in most of the more modern English translations. The NET [New English Translation] and the 1599 Geneva Bible are a couple of the notable exceptions.
Over the last several decades, a lively debate has been taking place over the meaning of the phrase “faith of Christ” or “faith of Jesus Christ” in Paul’s writings. And because this debate is over whether the phrase “pistis Christou” means “faith in Christ or “the faith[fulness] of Christ”; it is commonly referred to as “the pistis Christou debate.”
The debate becomes very important when we consider it’s affects on how we present the gospel and understand salvation. The two principal ways this phrase is currently translated in the debate are Jesus Christ’s faith/faithfulness, or, faith in Jesus Christ. Thus, the person named can be either the doer [the subject] or the receiver [the object] of the action implied by the other noun – faith, in this case.
The issue at stake is whether these genitive constructions should be translated as objective genitives, “faith in Christ,” or as subjective genitives, “faith of Christ.” Consequently, if we take our phrase in the subjective sense, the meaning is the faith or faithfulness that Jesus Christ displays, while the objective sense is expressed as faith directed to Jesus Christ.
This kind of ambiguity is common in language, and we depend on something in the context or our experience to determine the correct meaning. For instance, when Paul says, “The love of Christ compels us” in 2 Corinthians 5:14 [NIV], does he mean our love for Christ (objective genitive), or Christ’s love for us (subjective genitive)? Although either possibility exists in both the Greek and the English, as it pertains to the subject at hand, the grammatical evidence appears to favor recognizing “pistis Christous” as a subjective genitive.
Two passages are critical for me in establishing a grammatical base for a subjective genitive reading. First, although arguments for and against subjective genitive readings have appealed to sources outside Paul’s writings and have been used to strengthen their arguments, the most significant passage must be Romans 4:16 …”Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all.”
Here Paul uses a genitive construction without a definite article, that can only be read as a subjective genitive. It is clearly Abraham’s faith that Paul refers to, not our faith in Abraham. This passage proves that Paul understood and used genitive constructions when he wanted to talk of the “faith of” an individual.
The second is found in Galatians 2:16 …”knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by the faith of Jesus Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”
In addition to encouraging a faith in Christ – “even we have believed in Christ Jesus”, this verse also includes two examples of pistis Christou. The context suggests to me that Paul is making a distinction between the roles of the faith of Christ and the believer’s faith in Christ in this passage. If he is not making this distinction, then the passage reads as follows: “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”
Although some disagree by asserting that the threefold reading of “faith in Christ” is for emphasis, the grammatical makeup of the verse strongly suggests to me that Paul is here distinguishing between the two critical requirements for justification before God. This is especially so due to the ‘hina’ clause that joins the two phrases: “we have have believed in Jesus Christ” and “we might be justified by “pistis Christou.” The Greek conjunction ‘hina’ [‘in order that’] shows that the second phrase is a consequence of the first, not just a restatement, requiring “the faith of Christ” as the correct rendering of “pistis Christou.”
Those who gravitate toward a performance based acceptance before God have an extremely difficult time processing, and/or accepting “pistis Christous” as a subjective genitive; perhaps because this subjective genitive perspective provides yet another reminder as to why every believer can be assured of the reception of their heavenly inheritance by virtue of being “in Christ”. It’s a very compelling and eye-opening aspect of Paul’s theology because it emphasizes that salvation is rooted in God’s grace in Christ rather than our faith.
This is not to say that a person’s faith in Christ isn’t an essential component in salvation, but at the end of the day, it is Christ and His blood, rather than our faith, that provides the only sufficient ground of any person’s salvation. The issue is not “either/or” but “both/and”… but first and foremost we are to place our focus and trust in Christ’s faith[fulness] rather than faith in our faith. Apart from this mindset we are at risk of turning the channel of faith into an act or a “work” that merits salvation. Perhaps another way of stating it would be …we are to place our faith in the faith/faithfulness of Christ, which without … “ye have believed in vain.” [ 1 Cor.15:2].
The issues involved in this discussion are complex. I am not attempting to undergo a thorough exegesis of all the many relevant texts, but rather to shed more light upon the issue. One of my goals is to demonstrate that reading ‘the righteousness of God’ as God’s righteousness, and the ‘faith of Christ’ as Christ’s faith/fulness is thoroughly consistent with the rightly cherished Protestant doctrine of ‘justifcation by faith alone.'[primarily ‘the imputed righteousness of Christ’].
Romans 3:20-24,”Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ [pistis Christou] unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:”
Philippians 3:9,”And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ [‘pistis Christou’], the righteousness which is of God by faith:”
“The righteousness which is of God” can only be obtained by virtue of being in ‘union with Christ’ [being found ‘in him’]. This righteousness originates from God through the faith[fulness] of Christ, and is imputed to all those who do not trust in their righteousness [or moral acts] in order for their justification, but instead have believed in Christ’s.
Those who trust in their moral actions and performance as the ground of their justification before God cannot be justified in the eyes of God , and consequently will never receive assurance that their sins have been forgiven [while, as long as] they remain in that mindset.
The enemy of our souls, Satan, doesn’t want any person who imagines or considers themselves to be accepted in the eyes of God to know that they aren’t; or, that they can and will receive the blessed assurance of their salvation, that is, the forgiveness of their sins, their acceptance before God, and a future Heavenly home by solely placing their trust in Christ’s righteousness and not any of their own. Justification comes as a free gift by the grace of God through the redemption that is in Christ.
2 Corinthians 5:21,”For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
Ephesians 3:12,”In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him [pistis Christou].”
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Justified & Preserved by the Faith of Christ - Part 2
So, do we place our faith in “being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:” [Romans 3:24] … or by our performance and best efforts?… the answer appears to be very obvious. If this be true, why would anyone suppose that they continue in a justified position on the ground of self performance [best efforts]?
Some claim that a genuine believer may fall from, or forfeit, their justified position by failing to continue placing their faith in Christ. However, a believer’s faith was never, at any time, the ground of their justification, it was the only appointed means to receive the free gift of salvation …”lest any man should boast.”[Eph.2:9]. Once a person commits to placing their sole confidence in Christ’s atoning work for their salvation, their nature will undergo a radical transformation at the point of regeneration, resulting in a trusting, or faith, that will never totally or ultimately be extinguished.
2 Timothy 1:12,”For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.”
Philippians 1:6,”Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:”
To read the expression ‘pistis Christou’ as a reference to Christ’s faith[fulness] does not detract from the essentialness of the believer’s faith; for everywhere Paul uses the phrase he juxtaposes another expression which unambiguously denotes a human response. However, to read it as the Christian’s belief in Christ [faith in Christ] neglects important Pauline instruction concerning Christ’s redemptive work.
Summary/Key Points :
(1) God’s grace as the source of the believer’s justification.
(2) The nature of justification as a judicial verdict, by which God grants to sinners a new righteous status, on the basis of Christ’s death.
(3) Faith, trust in Christ, as the sole instrument through which God’s grace of justification is received.
I agree with Murray Smith’s [following] perspective on this issue :
“[The points listed above] are all clearly evident in Romans 3:21-26 [but most certainly not limited to those verses]. Nevertheless, the apostle’s emphasis in this crucial paragraph is first theological and Christo-centric : he affirms, first and foremost, that the gospel reveals and vindicates God’s own righteousness, manifested in Christ’s trusting obedience to the Father, even to the point of death, and that this work of Christ provides the only ground for the justification of all who believe.
Indeed, far from posing a threat to the long-cherished Reformed doctrine of justification by grace through faith alone, this understanding of Paul’s argument in Romans 3 provides it with deeper roots. For if the gospel reveals God’s own righteousness, it reveals nothing less than God’s commitment to act in accordance with his own name, the name which declares that he is ‘the Lord, the Lord, gracious and compassionate, abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness’. On this reading, Paul’s affirmation that justification comes from God’s free grace is not limited to the brief statement in Romans 3:24 [‘by his grace as a gift’], but deeply anchored in the very name of God.
In the same way, if the gospel reveals that God’s righteousness has been manifested in Christ’s faith/fulness, ‘the blood’ which provides the ground for the sinner’s justification is no arbitrary sacrifice, but the culmination of the perfect trusting obedience of the true Adam, the son of David, whose sacrifice of himself fully satisfies God’s justice precisely because it was the one and only sacrifice offered in perfect faith.”
Why must there be camps?
Can we just agree on SALVATION being ONLY through the sacrifice of Jesus, the Christ, the Son of God; whom God gave that thru him the world of any that will believe might be saved!
We end up sounding to those "outside" this site, that read, as though Christ is divided like a bunch of Sadducees and Pharasees always arguing over THE LAW!
Can we just agree on SALVATION being ONLY through the sacrifice of Jesus, the Christ, the Son of God; whom God gave that thru him the world of any that will believe might be saved!
We end up sounding to those "outside" this site, that read, as though Christ is divided like a bunch of Sadducees and Pharasees always arguing over THE LAW!