The 10 Commandments are FOREVER

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ButterflyJones

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So you're promoting killing gays, adulterers and those who work on weekends. Even your family?

God didn't change. He gave us the New Covenant.

Please quote the Scripture.

Really? Guess who wrote this.

Galatians 3:10
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse;

They were under the Law. Jesus had not shed His Blood for the New Covenant.

Whom did Jesus execute? His disciples who worked in the Sabbath? And He was with them while they worked on the Sabbath.

Did you even read John 2:6?

6 Now there were set there six waterpots of stone, according to the manner of purification of the Jews, containing twenty or thirty gallons apiece.

1 John 3:4 (NKJV)
4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

And still no proof that Christians are to execute sinners!
We're Jesus and his Disciples executed when the Pharisees found them working on the Sabbath?

Paul was a Pharisee. He did not know what Jesus taught nor exampled regarding the law.

As he said, Paul preached his gospel.
 
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John 3:16-17, “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life. “Indeed, God did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world but in order that the world might be saved through him.

Matthew 11:28-30, Jesus said, "Come to me, all you who are weary and are carrying heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

1 John 4:8, "Whoever does not love does not know God, for God is love."

Those are exact quotes from God's word: the Bible.

@amigo can rant and rave with his message of judgement, division, and intolerance, but the above is what God's word says. Personally, I believe God. What about you?

Christians, being born of God, no longer need written instructions. We are guided by the Holy Spirit. We are fully His children and no longer need a instructor-servant over us.

So Paul was wrong when he wrote in Romans 7:4 "In the same way, my brothers and sisters, you have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead in order that we may bear fruit for God"?

So much for the New Covenant!

God gave a set of rules to the Jews, effective until Christ came and set us free from the law.

Christians are not under the OT law. Jesus died to fulfill all the law's requirements so that we have freedom in Christ.

Galatians 4:21-28, "Tell me, you who desire to be subject to the law, will you not listen to the law? For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by an enslaved woman and the other by a free woman. One, the child of the enslaved woman, was born according to the flesh; the other, the child of the free woman, was born through the promise. Now this is an allegory: these women are two covenants. One woman, in fact, is Hagar, from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery. Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. But the other woman corresponds to the Jerusalem above; she is free, and she is our mother. For it is written,

“Rejoice, you childless one, you who bear no children,
burst into song and shout, you who endure no birth pangs,
for the children of the desolate woman are more numerous
than the children of the one who is married.”
Now you, my brothers and sisters, are children of the promise, like Isaac."

Interesting that you omit 1 John 3:5! 1 John 3:4-5, "Everyone who commits sin is guilty of lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. You know that he was revealed to take away sins, and in him there is no sin." The law is a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ. Once were are born again, we are free! We are not under the law! Hallelujah!
calm down.

YOU don't have to obey them.

better?
 
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I'm too busy quoting scripture.

He also said these people (jews/pharisees/scribes) teach the 10 Commandments, but don't do them. Do as they say/teach, but not as they do.

Matt. 23:1-3
Clearly you don't understand to whom Jesus was speaking and the social situation in Israel at the time.
 

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calm down.

YOU don't have to obey them.

better?
Odd isn't it? How those opposed to the 10 commands Jesus reiterates claim they only now need the guidance of his Holy Spirit?

They don't know the Holy Spirit gave life and voice to the 10 commands. And they still apply.

But not for those who think they don't. Which means they can murder, steal, become polytheists, lie, disrespect their parents and condemn the Sabbath.
 
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"My covenant will I not break nor alter (forever) the thing that has gone out of My lips."
Psalms 89:34

"For I am the Lord, I change not; ..."
Malachi 3:6

Jesus' closest disciples kept the Law the night of His death and for 300 years after.
Luke 23:54-56

Paul kept the Law.
Acts 21:24

Jesus taught the keeping of the Law.
Matt. 23:1-3

Jesus kept the Law.
John 15:10

we are to do as Jesus did.
1 John 2:6

the Law is defined in the NT as the breaking of the 10 Commandments to show that it still applies to Christians today.
1 John 3:4
Paul taught obedience to the law.

It would be rather odd to also know he taught obedience to government and mans laws, Romans 13, but would insist we do not have to obey God's.
 
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I'm too busy quoting scripture.

He also said these people (jews/pharisees/scribes) teach the 10 Commandments, but don't do them. Do as they say/teach, but not as they do.

Matt. 23:1-3
They were still under the Law. Jesus hadn't shed His Blood for the New Covenant.

Matthew 26
28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
 
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Odd isn't it? How those opposed to the 10 commands Jesus reiterates claim they only now need the guidance of his Holy Spirit?

They don't know the Holy Spirit gave life and voice to the 10 commands. And they still apply.

But not for those who think they don't. Which means they can murder, steal, become polytheists, lie, disrespect their parents and condemn the Sabbath.
some just don't like to believe that the Bible has any rules in it.

others just hate the word Commandment.

interesting how pride goes hand-in-hand with so many who reject the Commandments.
 

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They were still under the Law. Jesus hadn't shed His Blood for the New Covenant.

Matthew 26
28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
okay ... and these folks here who obeyed the 4th (Sabbath) Commandment after Jesus had already died on the Cross:

Luke 23:54-56

how bout them?

still under the Law?
 

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okay ... and these folks here who obeyed the 4th (Sabbath) Commandment after Jesus had already died on the Cross:

Luke 23:54-56

how bout them?

still under the Law?
There was a transition period. Many didn't know, so they followed the Law of Moses. But we know. Lots of Law preachers but no doers of the Law. Would you execute your family for working on weekends? Or do you just pick the parts of the Law that you like?

Galatians 3:10
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse;
 
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some just don't like to believe that the Bible has any rules in it.

others just hate the word Commandment.

interesting how pride goes hand-in-hand with so many who reject the Commandments.
Entirely possible, yes.
Don't discount those who follow the Replacement Theology (false) doctrine.
 
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There was a transition period. Many didn't know, so they followed the Law of Moses. But we know. Lots of Law preachers but no doers of the Law. Would you execute your family for working on weekends? Or do you just pick the parts of the Law that you like?

Galatians 3:10
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse;
"Sin is transgression against the law." That's a NT statement. "The wages of sin is death." That's also a NT statement. We don't have to kill sinners, whatever they deserve they will in the end receive. God has promised justice. So those who disobey God's commandments will die the second death. See Romans 6:23. That's why we preach the gospel. So people escape the second death through faith in the atonement and trust in the power of God to recreate is in the image of Christ... Who obeyed all His Father's commandments.
 

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"Sin is transgression against the law." That's a NT statement. "The wages of sin is death." That's also a NT statement. We don't have to kill sinners, whatever they deserve they will in the end receive. God has promised justice. So those who disobey God's commandments will die the second death. See Romans 6:23. That's why we preach the gospel. So people escape the second death through faith in the atonement and trust in the power of God to recreate is in the image of Christ... Who obeyed all His Father's commandments.
Yes and if we abide in Sin, saying go sin, we are as feeding the cancer ! As a society we will fail ! because one is of this world that Jesus pointed out that is full of deception and delusions.
Now as to one entering into the Kingdom of God, their is a list of they who can not come in ! why because they are not worthy in fact.

Satanist have pride in their Sins ! that's the foundation of why they do such, not to mention try and promote deviates and deception. Remember that serpent had a agenda just like such.
 

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So Paul was wrong when he wrote in Romans 7:4 "In the same way, my brothers and sisters, you have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead in order that we may bear fruit for God"?
Do you really think Paul would object and criticize me for obeying God commandments? Do you think my obedience is not bearing fruit for God? If obedience isn't a fruit or result of God's doing, where does it come from, knowing we can't do it of our own selves?
 
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"Sin is transgression against the law." That's a NT statement. "The wages of sin is death." That's also a NT statement. We don't have to kill sinners, whatever they deserve they will in the end receive. God has promised justice. So those who disobey God's commandments will die the second death. See Romans 6:23. That's why we preach the gospel. So people escape the second death through faith in the atonement and trust in the power of God to recreate is in the image of Christ... Who obeyed all His Father's commandments.
If you are saying we must obey the Law of Moses then that would include executing gays, adulterers and those who work on weekends. Those were COMMANDS.
 
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