LGBTQ

[TinMan]

Let me tell you a quick story. At the conclusion of World War 1, the allies sued for reparations, placing a heavy financial burden on Germany and the German people. During the intervening years between WWI and WWII, interest rates increased to unmanageable levels. It was literally true that a bag of gold was necessary to buy a loaf of bread. The people were starving and couldn't afford the rent.

Many people, including men, women, and children resorted to prostitution in order to survive. Germany witnessed a total collapse of society. Believe me when I say that those who go without food go without scruples. I can't begin to describe, on a public forum, the horror, despair, and degradation the German people experienced during those years.

Suffice it to say that the people voted for Hitler because he promised to end their suffering.

Hitler campaigned heavily and promised many things including to protect the family from its enemies - homosexuals. (does that sound familiar?)

The people of Germany answered to the question, "What would you do in a desperate situation?" How much are you willing to degrade yourself to get a little bit of food? Would you climb in the dumpster with the rats? Would you eat rats? Would you sell your body?

I spent a year working with the homeless in Detroit, a huge number of which were LGBT youth, they had either been kicked out of their homes when their parents found out about their orientation or had fled to escape the horrific abuse they were subjected to by their loving parents. They can answer your questions, why not go volunteer at a soup kitchen and ask some for of them yourself.

That's enough.

I get your need to "rah-rah" for a cause, especially a cause that has been promoted as a class struggle. But our society is standing on a precipice listening to the echo, "Don't get fooled again." Motivated by your wish to help people, you were recruited by globalists in their efforts to break down and destroy every source of wisdom, knowledge, and authority we have in America: separation from parents, teachers, police, courts, and even citizenship.

Wow that sounds familiar

It's happening again. Those who live as if God doesn't exist, are given over to a depraved mind. And as Paul said, God has given us over to a deluding influence. Our leaders are supernaturally stupid. Instead of proactively leading the people with all wisdom and experience, they are reactively responding to situations they are unprepared to resolve.

They can't win a kinetic war against America. So they corrupt America from within. As Kennedy said, infiltration not invasion. Destroy our will to fight, and we will be easy pickin's.

You think there is a war?

Look, this is not the time to "rah-rah". It's too bad it's called "The Gay agenda" because Gays don't want to have anything to do with it. They can see just like I can see that their cause has been infiltrated and subverted by those promoting disunity, violence, degradation, misogyny, social breakdown, corruption of the youth, and grooming of children. All of this leads to darkness, despair, disheartenment, and cowardice.

and that is why good people fight against racism and homophobia, they oppose their goals of disunity, violence, degradation, misogyny, social breakdown, corruption of the youth, and grooming of children.

 

[CadyandZoe]

You think there is a war?

Yes. We are currently at war. And I am not talking about a culture war.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Hitler campaigned heavily and promised many things including to protect the family from its enemies - homosexuals. (does that sound familiar?)

I spent a year working with the homeless in Detroit, a huge number of which were LGBT youth, they had either been kicked out of their homes when their parents found out about their orientation or had fled to escape the horrific abuse they were subjected to by their loving parents. They can answer your questions, why not go volunteer at a soup kitchen and ask some for of them yourself.

Wow that sounds familiar

You think there is a war?

and that is why good people fight against racism and homophobia, they oppose their goals of disunity, violence, degradation, misogyny, social breakdown, corruption of the youth, and grooming of children.

I don't know what calculus you use to figure out your equivocations, but you only rob yourself of the truth. I commend you for helping others but you totally lost the point . . . again.

You thought I was talking about Hitler? I was talking about the destruction of the family, which is a prelude to many evils. Your example of Detroit supports the point I made. You gave us an example of broken families.

What you don't seem to understand is that "fighting" racism, poverty, or anything like that causes more harm than good. Why? Because the source of such problems is spiritual in nature. People need to change on the inside. This is why rejecting God is the first step in a downward spiral.

Yes, we are at war. And I am not talking about a culture war, or a fight for social justice. Our nation is under attack at the moment from real enemies that mean to enslave us and do us harm. Pay attention.

 

[TinMan]

Cultural Marxist tactics. Our young friend, @TinMan, is a useful idiot for evil doers who indoctrinated him into getting his moral poles reversed.

Like a computer, he has accepted the programming that only hate and a quest for power causes people to oppose every manner of depravity. He does not have eyes to see or ears to hear. From 7 Major Health Disparities Affecting the LGBTQ+ Community

DIrectly from your link: "
We all rely on healthcare services at some point in our lives, and many of us take them for granted. But not everybody has the same access to medical advice and treatment. As a result, specific populations suffer poorer health outcomes than others. Health disparities are how disease, injury, and violence affect marginalized communities differently than others. Health disparities typically result from a lack of access to adequate healthcare."

Your own link stats that it is not being LGBT that is the cause but hate and discrimination.

1. Sexually Transmitted Infections (STIs) - 68% greater.

This is not exactly what your link said now is it?

1. Greater Violence. Trans are prone to commit violence much more than rest of population, be the victimizer!

It didn't say this at all. If LGBT people are so bad, why do you have to lie like this?

1. Substance Abuse: 3x greater.

Not what your link says.

1. Mental Health Conditions: More likely.

Because of who they are or how they are treated?

1. Obesity and Eating Disorders. More likely.

From your link: "Research has found that bisexual and lesbian women were more likely to be overweight or obese than women who identify as heterosexual. However, gay men are less likely to be overweight or obese than straight men."

1. Breast and Cervical Cancers: More likely.

And how does discrimination from medical professionals impact this?

1. Heart Disease: More likely.

And how does discrimination from medical professionals impact this?

1. Suicide: 2x greater Suicide and Violence Prevention Among Gay and Bisexual Men | CDC

Tied directly to discrimination and familial abuse and rejection.

1. Earlier death. Mortality Disparities Among Sexual Minority Adults in the United States - PubMed

only for sexual minority females compared with non-sexual-minority females, the study goes on to say: "We found no evidence of differential mortality risk for sexual minority males compared with non-sexual-minority"

And the researchers go on to cite that sexual minority females are twice as likely to be uninsured and significant numbers report being turned away by doctors.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34698549/

Indeed, it is hateful to condone such self-destructive behavior. These facts destroy the claim that homosexuality is a 'victimless crime.' I believe the statistics are hidden - or at least not publicized as they should - on how bad this behavior is because of the political climate.

You misrepresented or just lied about most of your "facts" here.

 

[TinMan]

Yes. We are currently at war. And I am not talking about a culture war.

LGBT youth are 18 times more likely to physically attacked at school
80 times as likely to be physically abused by their parents (but only if their parents know they are LGBT)
Half of all homeless tens are LGBT.
Lesbian teens are 4 times as likely to be raped

if there really is a war i guess we can tell who is loosing

 

[TinMan]

I don't know what calculus you use to figure out your equivocations, but you only rob yourself of the truth. I commend you for helping others but you totally lost the point . . . again.

You thought I was talking about Hitler? I was talking about the destruction of the family, which is a prelude to many evils. Your example of Detroit supports the point I made. You gave us an example of broken families.

Broken because the parents of these homeless kids hated and abused them.

 

[CadyandZoe]

LGBT youth are 18 times more likely to physically attacked at school
80 times as likely to be physically abused by their parents (but only if their parents know they are LGBT)
Half of all homeless tens are LGBT.
Lesbian teens are 4 times as likely to be raped

if there really is a war i guess we can tell who is loosing

Once again, you find a way to ignore what I am telling you.

For future reference, I am never convinced by statistics. NOT EVER. Statistics are opinions disguised as mathematics. (Americans love statistics; witness baseball.)

I can use the same stats to prove that LGBT is dangerous and should be avoided at all costs.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Broken because the parents of these homeless kids hated and abused them.

Again you miss the point. How can someone miss the point so often? I see that you are trying to win the argument. Good luck with that. But why don't you pick up what I am laying down? The abuse of kids is a SPIRITUAL PROBLEM. You can't fight this with protest marches, leaflet distribution, propaganda, or focus groups. God is dead in America and because of this, kids are hated and abused.

(put that in your pipe and smoke it.)

 

[Behold]

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Its unfortunate that we can't give this 100 "Likes" each.

 

[RLT63]

when you falsely tried to connect gays and pedophiles what exactly were you disagreeing with?

I didn’t try to connect anyone. I was pointing out your ubiquitous use of the word minority.

 

[Jn1.Chris]

Yes. We are currently at war. And I am not talking about a culture war.

We are most definitely at war and you see it in the culture every day.

 

[Behold]

We are most definitely at war and you see it in the culture every day.

"" IF you dont want our.... PRIDE...in your face and our Gay Agenda inside your Children's elementary school curriculum , then we'll define you as a """"HATER."""

AND.. .that's not all.....

= "there is coming a day... very soon.... that we are going to abuse the Legal System to force GAY MARRIAGE in your church, or the NEW LAW will classify your Denomination as a Hate Group, and lock the door".

 

[Jn1.Chris]

I stopped reading this thread a long time ago so have missed a lot of posts but what is the point? Christians are evil? We need to change and be more accepting?

When I was younger this subject went kind of like this:
dude: Hey, gay marriage.
dude 2: Yeah
dude: yeah but what do you think?
dude 2: Idk
Dude: Yeah. hey! sports!

The idea was 'hey WE just want to be accepted! and treated as normal. we don't want to lose our jobs, we want to serve in .mil'
Pride was COMING OUT. Telling people that you were homosexual, an admittedly hard thing to do.

Now pride is simply that you are gay. WHO CARES? I don't. It's like being telling everyone at a Yankee's game that you are pro-baseball.
Are gay people discriminated against in this country? The pride flag flew at the same level as the USA's flag. I mean...

and yes @Behold that's where we're headed.

 

[TinMan]

Once again, you find a way to ignore what I am telling you.

For future reference, I am never convinced by statistics. NOT EVER. Statistics are opinions disguised as mathematics. (Americans love statistics; witness baseball.)

the thing is behand those statistics are actual people.

 

[TinMan]

Again you miss the point. How can someone miss the point so often? I see that you are trying to win the argument. Good luck with that. But why don't you pick up what I am laying down? The abuse of kids is a SPIRITUAL PROBLEM.

Not for the kids being horribly abused.

You can't fight this with protest marches, leaflet distribution, propaganda, or focus groups. God is dead in America and because of this, kids are hated and abused.

actually that raises awareness and provides information for the kids and those aro0und them on how to seek help.

 

[Wrangler]

Your own link stats that it is not being LGBT that is the cause but hate and discrimination.

Wrong. You want anything BUT homosexual acts to be the cause of suffering.

 

[Wrangler]

This is not exactly what your link said now is it?

Not exactly? Just a summary paraphrase. Fact is, homosexuals have much more STD's than heterosexuals.

 

[TinMan]

Are gay people discriminated against in this country? .

Well.
Florida just passed legislation allowing medical professionals (even those in emergency rooms) to refuse to treat anyone they identify as LGBT
Idaho is working on doing the same for psychiatrists and therapists.
Arkansas just passed a law bringing back segregation. Business there can now legally refuse to sell or provided services to LGBT individuals

But i am going to guess you don't count such things as discrimination.

 

[TinMan]

Not exactly? Just a summary paraphrase. Fact is, homosexuals have much more STD's than heterosexuals.

so do black people. Does that make racism OK?

 

[Wrangler]

It didn't say this at all.

Yes, the article did say trans are more violent and many other sources do as well.

Crimes Committed by Transgender People - Infogalactic: the planetary knowledge core

infogalactic.com

Activists promote the belief that transgender people i.e. those who falsify their sex, are victims of frequent violence and are an oppressed, persecuted social group. However, statistics give a very different picture. Transgender people are no more likely to be murdered or attacked than the rest of the population. In fact, they are far more likely to carry out violent crimes, including murder. Some of the worst serial killers in criminal history have been transgenders.​