Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

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David in NJ

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Yet once again you didn't answer my question could you please just answer it?

Yes God judged the fallen angles who sinned but He never once in the bible said that the sin was fornicating with the daughter of men.

Jude stated this

6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day

And Revelation shows us why they lost their position

7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven.

So I am using the bible to interpret the bible.

The bible separates Seths offspring and Cains offspring. The bible also shows that only the people in Seth's line called on the name of the Lord and walked with God. The fact is that all of the faithful excepts for Noah conformed which is the reason that God judged the world.

Paul also told us this in Corinthians

39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another.

The bible also repeatley calls faithful people children of God and Gensis specifies sons of God because it only records the males in the line of Seth and that also explains why the daughters are only called the daughters of men .

Thus I use the scriptures to interpet scriptures
Peace Marty,

Satan and his angels from Revelation ch12 are not the same angels from Genesis ch6 - this is crystal clear.

There is not one scripture that attributes Seth lineage as "sons of God".

Marty, at this juncture it is important for you to review Post #722 to see who and what and how "sons of God" Become and by Whom.

Only by understanding this will you be able to see 2 Peter ch2 and Jude and Luke ch20 and Genesis ch6

Peace Brother
 

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YES, this is where God placed these specific angels that "left their proper domain" and "came into the daughters of men".

ONLY these specific angels are currently "in hell.... in chains of darkness to be reserved unto judgment".
As you have been shown "Several Times" to your denial of scripture, the sons of God were mortal human men that married mortal human wives upon this earth

Angels don't maintain human sperm, nor do they marry humans upon earth

Your living in a fantasy fairy tale land if Aesops fables

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Assuming for the moment that the sons of God mentioned in Genesis six were angelic beings. And assume for the moment that it was a sin for them to mate with a human woman, what passage of scripture rules out or supports an antediluvian judgment of the angels?
Your catching on, the false teaching is nothing but a Sci-Fi assumption not found in scripture
 

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Peace Marty,

Satan and his angels from Revelation ch12 are not the same angels from Genesis ch6 - this is crystal clear.

There is not one scripture that attributes Seth lineage as "sons of God".

Marty, at this juncture it is important for you to review Post #722 to see who and what and how "sons of God" Become and by Whom.

Only by understanding this will you be able to see 2 Peter ch2 and Jude and Luke ch20 and Genesis ch6

Peace Brother
And once again you refuse to answer my question why?
 

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Peace Marty,

Satan and his angels from Revelation ch12 are not the same angels from Genesis ch6 - this is crystal clear.

There is not one scripture that attributes Seth lineage as "sons of God".

Marty, at this juncture it is important for you to review Post #722 to see who and what and how "sons of God" Become and by Whom.

Only by understanding this will you be able to see 2 Peter ch2 and Jude and Luke ch20 and Genesis ch6

Peace Brother

Of course the angles from revelation 12 aren’t the ones in Genesis 6 I never once said that they were.

I already refuted post 722 and I believe that I showed through the scriptures how the sones of god were from Seths offspring.

Why do you constantly ignore my scripture backing when I don’t ignore yours I have addressed them all?

You don’t seem to debate fairly I address your post and you ignore mine this isn’t fair debating.
 

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As you have been shown "Several Times" to your denial of scripture, the sons of God were mortal human men that married mortal human wives upon this earth

Angels don't maintain human sperm, nor do they marry humans upon earth

Your living in a fantasy fairy tale land if Aesops fables

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord
You have not shown a single scripture that declares the Gen ch6 "sons of God" as humans.

Fairy tales come from men who reject the Scriptures as "it is written".

i remind you that the LORD Jesus told only the Truth and He never said they were humans.
 

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Of course the angles from revelation 12 aren’t the ones in Genesis 6 I never once said that they were.

I already refuted post 722 and I believe that I showed through the scriptures how the sones of god were from Seths offspring.

Why do you constantly ignore my scripture backing when I don’t ignore yours I have addressed them all?

You don’t seem to debate fairly I address your post and you ignore mine this isn’t fair debating.
Is this in your OP or another Post?
 

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Genesis 6:1-8
When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.


Many people believe that the sons of God were fallen angels who fornicated and had children with female human beings thus making the world so evil that God decided to destroy civilization. Could this really be? Could spiritual being really fornicate with human beings even though Paul taught us that heavenly bodies have a different splendor than human bodies in 1 Corinthians 15? Would God really allow this to happen? I believe not

I believe that the sons of God were the faithful line of God and that the daughters of men were the daughters of the unfaithful line of Cain.

In the previous chapters of Genesis we see that the descendants of Seth were faithful to God while the descendants of Cain were not. All we hear about the descendants of Cain is the great accomplishments they made but Seth's descendants were great men of God. The earth seamed quite peaceful up until this time so what changed?

God constantly warns the faithful to not dwell with the unfaithful throughout the Old Testament and there is a reason for this which is to keep the faithful from being corrupted. We read that the sons of God were only attracted to the daughters of men because they are beautiful not because they loved them so the reason why they fornicated with them was for lust not love.

Over time while dwelling with the unfaithful the faithful conformed to the ways of the unfaithful until the faithful came down to just one man Noah. The ways of the Lord was lost and the offspring of these people lived for themselves not for the Lord as the whole world became filled with wickedness and this was the reason that God decided to destroy almost all of the human race with the great flood.

God protected the line of the faithful and continued to do so throughout the bible. I believe that this kind of serves as warning to the church and will be the same reason that God will destroy the human race in the future by fire as the church is slowly conforming to the ways of the world.
Thanks for the topic Marty, I'm out the horse is dead, it's simply a rehash

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Marty fox

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Every question was answered UNLESS you are refering to .....?

Let me know the specific one - Thank you

You can't be serious I have asked you 5 times now I am starting to think that you maybe just playing games so don't worry about it.
 

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You can't be serious I have asked you 5 times now I am starting to think that you maybe just playing games so don't worry about it.
Is it the question about 'mankind' and why God focuses on 'mankind' in Genesis ch6 and not on the angels that sinned?
 

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Is it the question about 'mankind' and why God focuses on 'mankind' in Genesis ch6 and not on the angels that sinned?

Yes the bible states that the flood was Gods judgement on the people of the world it doesn't say people and angelic beings.
 

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Yes the bible states that the flood was Gods judgement on the people of the world it doesn't say people and angelic beings.
Well it does say that God's Judgment befell mankind and the angels who "came into the daughters of men".

Herein are the answers to your question(s):

A.) Where did the Flood take place? In the spiritual realm or on earth/this age?

B.) Where is the "proper domain of the sons of God/angels?

C.) Where did God place the angels who sinned as described in Genesis ch6 , 2 Peter ch2 and Jude?

finally

D.) Did Jesus come to save angels or mankind?
 

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Well it does say that God's Judgment befell mankind and the angels who "came into the daughters of men".

Herein are the answers to your question(s):

A.) Where did the Flood take place? In the spiritual realm or on earth/this age?

B.) Where is the "proper domain of the sons of God/angels?

C.) Where did God place the angels who sinned as described in Genesis ch6 , 2 Peter ch2 and Jude?

finally

D.) Did Jesus come to save angels or mankind?

No it doesn't say that here is the verse

6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.”

So you have to add to the scriptures to show your view.

The rest of your post doesn't matter because you assume that the sons of God are fallen angles and I don't
 

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No it doesn't say that here is the verse

6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.”

So you have to add to the scriptures to show your view.

The rest of your post doesn't matter because you assume that the sons of God are fallen angles and I don't
Marty,

Read one of the Gospels and take note of the words and questions that the pharisees and sadducees directed at the Lord.
 

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Marty,

Read one of the Gospels and take note of the words and questions that the pharisees and sadducees directed at the Lord.

Your avoiding the question again this is very disrespectful of you why can't you answer it? Obviously its because it disproves your view.

Why do you constantly avoid it and then reference something else?
 

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Your avoiding the question again this is very disrespectful of you why can't you answer it? Obviously its because it disproves your view.

Why do you constantly avoid it and then reference something else?
Marty,
The human intellect always argues against the Word, not allowing the Holy Scriptures to Speak.

Demanding answers according to it's own desires.

Read Acts chapters 6 thru 7 today = short read
 

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Marty,
The human intellect always argues against the Word, not allowing the Holy Scriptures to Speak.

Demanding answers according to it's own desires.

Read Acts chapters 6 thru 7 today = short read

Yes and your human intellect is arguing against the word in Gensis 6:5-6 which I clearly provided, listen to your own words.

I am believing what the scriptures said

Do you realize that many people are reading this thread and see your avoidance to answer the repeated question?

Due to your avoidance to deal with my repeated question which is tied directly to the scriptures and you not debating honestly, fairly and respectfully there is no reason to carry on this debate.

Take care and no hard feelings
 

David in NJ

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Yes and your human intellect is arguing against the word in Gensis 6:5-6 which I clearly provided, listen to your own words.

I am believing what the scriptures said

Do you realize that many people are reading this thread and see your avoidance to answer the repeated question?

Due to your avoidance to deal with my repeated question which is tied directly to the scriptures and you not debating honestly, fairly and respectfully there is no reason to carry on this debate.

Take care and no hard feelings
Marty,

This is what you believe =
"I believe that the sons of God were the faithful line of God and that the daughters of men were the daughters of the unfaithful line of Cain."

There is not one single scripture that says or concludes or agrees with your words your OP = not one!

At least 3 witnesses have posted on here for you to gain understanding in "it is written".
 

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Yes and your human intellect is arguing against the word in Gensis 6:5-6 which I clearly provided, listen to your own words.

I am believing what the scriptures said

Do you realize that many people are reading this thread and see your avoidance to answer the repeated question?

Due to your avoidance to deal with my repeated question which is tied directly to the scriptures and you not debating honestly, fairly and respectfully there is no reason to carry on this debate.

Take care and no hard feelings
Marty,

There is not one single scripture that says or concludes or aligns with your words of "Seth" in your OP as the "sons of God"= not one!

At least 3 witnesses have posted on here for you to gain understanding in "it is written".

This is exactly what we are warned of in the Gospel, Acts and the Apostles writings = mans ideas versus "it is written".