Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

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You article is the same type of stuff that always been talked about for centuries.
There is just an intense desire to know more about this story than what the Bible offers.
Yes all Christians are sons and daughters of God....but when we take wives it is not front page news and our offspring are just normal kids.
I have heard some interesting interpretations on this....only interesting.
I do not know what to tell you, you are doing a lot of work to equate things that do not pertain.
Yes, they went to the tabernacle in the Old Testament and we go to Church and sometime miraculous things happen....But none of this is like what was going on in Job....that was in heaven.

What Scripture supports the sons of God presented themselves before God in heaven?
 

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What Scripture supports the sons of God presented themselves before God in heaven?
After all this you do not know?
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. Job 1:6
 

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Jesus is a son of David, who will rule on the throne of David, when God brings about his kingdom on earth.
Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium, this being false in deception

Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
 

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After all this you do not know?
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. Job 1:6

Where do we read of angels and not human beings presenting themselves before the Lord?

There is no mention of heaven in the verse you cite!
 
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God's Word is definitely not fantasy.
But some people develop some fanciful interpretations about God's Word.
Like you guys with "the line of Seth"

Your mindset Bible verses say: 'imajun whirled peas'

AND

'sons of God are ritechuss men with reely bawd dawters of men'

and this was your reasoning why God destroyed all living with the flood...................

just when you thought thinking was thoughtful thinking it turned out to be thoughtless thinking = think about it
OR
think knot
 
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Like you guys with "the line of Seth"

Your mindset Bible verses say: 'imajun whirled peas'

Some may claim the line of Seth are the sons of God. Even if that is true, and it does have merit, it does not mean the lineage of Seth are without sin. There are none righteous, no not one! It is true however that mankind began to call upon the name of the LORD after the birth of Enos, begotten of Seth.

Genesis 4:26 (KJV) And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
 

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Some may claim the line of Seth are the sons of God. Even if that is true, and it does have merit, it does not mean the lineage of Seth are without sin. There are none righteous, no not one! It is true however that mankind began to call upon the name of the LORD after the birth of Enos, begotten of Seth.

Genesis 4:26 (KJV) And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
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Where do we read of angels and not human beings presenting themselves before the Lord?

There is no mention of heaven in the verse you cite!
I Agree

They treat the verse likes its Jack In The Bean Stock, and the jolly green giant Lol!

Human believers today present themselves before the Lord, those who are led by God's Spirit

Sad part is, they're shown the very clear biblical truth, and they triple down on their folly

Romans 8:14KJV
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
 
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Where do we read of angels and not human beings presenting themselves before the Lord?

There is no mention of heaven in the verse you cite!
You have to be kidding! Where do you think this is occurring? And I never said they were angels.
 

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Like you guys with "the line of Seth"

Your mindset Bible verses say: 'imajun whirled peas'

AND

'sons of God are ritechuss men with reely bawd dawters of men'

and this was your reasoning why God destroyed all living with the flood...................

just when you thought thinking was thoughtful thinking it turned out to be thoughtless thinking = think about it
OR
think knot
I don't think there is a line to Seth.
And the rest....Gibberish?
 

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i thought so

Adam was created by God. Humankind came from Adam. Since Adam was a son of God, why would not his offspring be designated sons/daughters of God also? And as Scripture clearly shows, just because created man was the son of God does not mean he and his progeny are without sin. Man chose to follow their own will, rejecting the Creator.

Luke 3:38 (KJV) Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
 
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I don't think there is a line to Seth.
And the rest....Gibberish?
Genesis chapter 5 gives the lineage of Seth

Below is from the internet but easily validated by reading Genesis

"Seth, a son of Adam and Eve (the third of their sons named in Scripture), was born after Cain murdered Abel (Genesis 4:8). Eve believed that God had appointed him as a replacement for Abel and named him Seth, which means “set in place of” (Genesis 4:25). Later, when Seth was 105 years old, his son Enosh was born (Genesis 4:26), and Enosh continues what is sometimes called “the godly line of Seth” that leads to Abraham.

The story of Cain’s killing the righteous “seed” (Abel) and God’s raising up another “seed” (Seth) becomes the central theme of the divine plan. Evil is always attempting to rid the world of good, and God is always thwarting evil’s plans. There is always a Seth to replace Abel. It was through the seed of Seth that Jesus was born (Genesis 5:3–8, 1 Chronicles 1:1, Luke 3:38).

After the birth of Seth’s son Enosh, the Bible tells us, “At that time men began to call on the name of the Lord” (Genesis 4:26), which confirms Eve’s foretelling of the purpose of Seth’s birth. The word call also means “to proclaim,” which refers to men testifying about God to one another. It was through Seth’s family that organized, corporate worship of the one true God began to enter the fallen world. Though the descendants of Seth are not the first in Adam’s line to develop inventions or advances in civilization, they are the first to praise and worship God."
 
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You have to be kidding! Where do you think this is occurring? And I never said they were angels.

Believers present themselves before the Lord each time we come together in worship and prayer. Is this not what Job did when he offered burnt offerings to Lord on behalf of his sons? It was his desire that they be sanctified before the LORD, and forgiven if they should sin against God during their times of feasting.

Job 1:5 (KJV) And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.
 

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Adam was created by God. Humankind came from Adam. Since Adam was a son of God, why would not his offspring be designated sons/daughters of God also? And as Scripture clearly shows, just because created man was the son of God does not mean he and his progeny are without sin. Man chose to follow their own will, rejecting the Creator.

Luke 3:38 (KJV) Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Excellent question.

The answer is right in front of you = Luke chapter 3

Only Adam was a son of God = Adam was a direct offspring/creation that came directly from God.

ONLY those men/women who have been Born-Again by the Spirit of God qualify to be called "sons of God".

1 John 3:1-3
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
 

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Genesis chapter 5 gives the lineage of Seth

Below is from the internet but easily validated by reading Genesis

"Seth, a son of Adam and Eve (the third of their sons named in Scripture), was born after Cain murdered Abel (Genesis 4:8). Eve believed that God had appointed him as a replacement for Abel and named him Seth, which means “set in place of” (Genesis 4:25). Later, when Seth was 105 years old, his son Enosh was born (Genesis 4:26), and Enosh continues what is sometimes called “the godly line of Seth” that leads to Abraham.

The story of Cain’s killing the righteous “seed” (Abel) and God’s raising up another “seed” (Seth) becomes the central theme of the divine plan. Evil is always attempting to rid the world of good, and God is always thwarting evil’s plans. There is always a Seth to replace Abel. It was through the seed of Seth that Jesus was born (Genesis 5:3–8, 1 Chronicles 1:1, Luke 3:38).

After the birth of Seth’s son Enosh, the Bible tells us, “At that time men began to call on the name of the Lord” (Genesis 4:26), which confirms Eve’s foretelling of the purpose of Seth’s birth. The word call also means “to proclaim,” which refers to men testifying about God to one another. It was through Seth’s family that organized, corporate worship of the one true God began to enter the fallen world. Though the descendants of Seth are not the first in Adam’s line to develop inventions or advances in civilization, they are the first to praise and worship God."
Let me show you what linage looks like in the Old Testament.
10 Now these are the records of the generations of Shem, Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah; and sons were born to them after the flood.

2 The sons of Japheth were Gomer and Magog and Madai and Javan and Tubal and Meshech and Tiras. 3 The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz and [a]Riphath and Togarmah. 4 The sons of Javan were Elishah and Tarshish, Kittim and [b]Dodanim. 5 From these the coastlands of the nations [c]were separated into their lands, every one according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.

6 The sons of Ham were Cush and Mizraim and Put and Canaan. 7 The sons of Cush were Seba and Havilah and Sabtah and Raamah and Sabteca; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan. 8 Now Cush [d]became the father of Nimrod; he [e]became a mighty one on the earth. 9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod a mighty hunter before the Lord.” 10 The beginning of his kingdom was [f]Babel and Erech and Accad and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. 11 From that land he went forth into Assyria, and built Nineveh and Rehoboth-Ir and Calah, 12 and Resen between Nineveh and Calah; that is the great city. 13 Mizraim [g]became the father of Ludim and Anamim and Lehabim and Naphtuhim 14 and Pathrusim and Casluhim (from which came the Philistines) and Caphtorim.

15 Canaan [h]became the father of Sidon, his firstborn, and Heth 16 and the Jebusite and the Amorite and the Girgashite 17 and the Hivite and the Arkite and the Sinite 18 and the Arvadite and the Zemarite and the Hamathite; and afterward the families of the Canaanite were spread abroad. 19 The territory of the Canaanite [i]extended from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; as you go toward Sodom and Gomorrah and Admah and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha. 20 These are the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, by their lands, by their nations.

21 Also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber, and the [j]older brother of Japheth, children were born. 22 The sons of Shem were Elam and Asshur and Arpachshad and Lud and Aram. 23 The sons of Aram were Uz and Hul and Gether and Mash. 24 Arpachshad [k]became the father of Shelah; and Shelah [l]became the father of Eber. 25 Two sons were born to Eber; the name of the one was [m]Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan. 26 Joktan [n]became the father of Almodad and Sheleph and Hazarmaveth and Jerah 27 and Hadoram and Uzal and Diklah 28 and [o]Obal and Abimael and Sheba 29 and Ophir and Havilah and Jobab; all these were the sons of Joktan. 30 Now their [p]settlement [q]extended from Mesha as you go toward Sephar, the hill country of the east. 31 These are the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, by their lands, according to their nations.

32 These are the families of the sons of Noah, according to their genealogies, by their nations; and out of these the nations were separated on the earth after the flood.

For one thing women are usually not mentioned in Hebrew lineages.
We do not know the names of these women.
We do not know the names of their fathers.
We do not know were they came from or where they lived.
You got nothing!
 

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Believers present themselves before the Lord each time we come together in worship and prayer. Is this not what Job did when he offered burnt offerings to Lord on behalf of his sons? It was his desire that they be sanctified before the LORD, and forgiven if they should sin against God during their times of feasting.

Job 1:5 (KJV) And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.
But this has nothing to do with the scenario of the sons of God presenting themselves before God.
You are trying to weave yourself a fantasy here. It is the thing that false beliefs are made of.
Leave me out....to silly.
 

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Excellent question.

The answer is right in front of you = Luke chapter 3

Only Adam was a son of God = Adam was a direct offspring/creation that came directly from God.

ONLY those men/women who have been Born-Again by the Spirit of God qualify to be called "sons of God".

1 John 3:1-3
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

What became of the image of God that His first son, Adam was created in? Beginning with Seth mankind bears the image of their first father, Adam. Yes, people of faith are all called sons/daughters of God. But just as the sons of God in the beginning sinned against God, so too do even those who are sons/daughters of God. None are without sin, and the penalty that came upon all of mankind because the sons of God corrupted the seeds of humanity by marrying those who did not believe God, so too there will always be penalty for people of faith when we commit sin. Believers are not lost forever, because God chastens whom He loves. In the same way mankind was not altogether forsaken, God saved humankind by beginning again with Noah, a righteous man before God.

Genesis 5:3 (KJV) And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
 

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But this has nothing to do with the scenario of the sons of God presenting themselves before God.
You are trying to weave yourself a fantasy here. It is the thing that false beliefs are made of.
Leave me out....to silly.

It isn't necessary that you believe what I believe Scripture teaches us! You may believe whatever you are led to believe according to your own study. Since you've given no Scripture proof for sons of God presenting themselves before God in heaven, I believe my understanding of the passage is trustworthy. Until it can be proven through the Word of God, I will continue to believe sons of God present themselves before God physically because they are endowed with spiritual life from above.