How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[ChristisGod]

What a place to discuss eternally important things. The modern gospel has attracted every kind of creeping thing.

Very disappointing.

yes we are disapointed you do not know what the gospel is or means.

 

[Episkopos]

Well when you deny eternally important things, by believing in an age old gospel of works. Which has been around since cain killed abel.. Then you shouldd suffer as they suffer until you repent.

Your gospel was invented by Luther. If you knew the bible and church history you would realize that what I teach is both Apostolic and of Christ. The sheer ignorance of your religious stance shows here. You think a recent perversion of the bible by a protesting mob is worth more than all the saintly testimony of the apostles and their successors (not to mention the teachings of Jesus Himself). The great delusion indeed.

You are pathetic.

And covering up the penalty for sins being more important than the power over sin by grace through faith? Ridiculous and laughable.

I know that you crows only agree on some of your own errors. You would squabble over anything given the chance. What you all HATE is the truth. That's where you have common ground. You like each others posts to prop up the flesh. But how many are SO deluded as to think the power OVER sin is nothing compared to covering up the penalty for sin???

Is not the cure better than always being in bondage? But your unbelief only requires a "reformed" religion...not a living faith.

 

[Behold]

Your gospel was invented by Luther.

"""""8 For the preaching of the CROSS is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.""""

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Your gospel was invented by Luther. If you knew the bible and church history you would realize that what I teach is both Apostolic and of Christ. The sheer ignorance of your religious stance shows here. You think a recent perversion of the bible by a protesting mob is worth more than all the saintly testimony of the apostles and their successors. The great delusion indeed.

You are pathetic.

And covering up the penalty for sins being more important than the power over sin by grace through faith? Ridiculous and laughable.

I know that you crows only agree on some of your own errors. You would squabble over anything given the chance. What you all HATE is the truth. You like each others posts to prop up the flesh. But how many are SO deluded as to think the power OVER sin is nothing compared to covering up the penalty for sin???

Is not the cure better than always being in bondage? But your unbelief only requires a "reformed" religion...not a living faith.

My gospel was preached to Adam and eve

Pathetic huh? You want to die under the penalty of sin. Feel free. There will be many there with you who thought they were ok too. And Jesus will tell them to depart also for they rejected him and tried to get to God their way

Gods justice will Prevail you think he will just forget your sin because you claim to walk on some higher plain. You will have a rude awakening

But stop trying to take people down with you.

 

[Episkopos]

"""""8 For the preaching of the CROSS is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.""""

It is the power of God to be set free from the corrupt flesh ...to be liberated in the inner man to be translated into Zion to walk in resurrection life. To walk as Jesus walked without sin. In Him is no sin.

But I'm casting pearls here before swine. Away with you Oink-tions.

 

[Johann]

Your gospel was invented by Luther. If you knew the bible and church history you would realize that what I teach is both Apostolic and of Christ. The sheer ignorance of your religious stance shows here. You think a recent perversion of the bible by a protesting mob is worth more than all the saintly testimony of the apostles and their successors. The great delusion indeed.

You are pathetic.

And covering up the penalty for sins being more important than the power over sin by grace through faith? Ridiculous and laughable.

Yup, your time is up-don't be surprised when all your threads are locked.
Give me your definition of salvation, as written in Scriptures, since the Second Plural, Singular is not to us, according to you--and your psychotic, narcissistic behavior is flying over my head.

Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
Tit 3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

A man that is a heretic — Greek, αιρετικον, a party or schism-maker, namely, in the church, among the true, genuine people of God; or one that causes divisions among those that are united in Christian fellowship; see on Rom_16:17; after the first and second admonition — From thee and the elders of the church, given with proper solemnity; reject — Avoid, and declare him unfit to be any longer looked upon as a member of your community.

You are a danger to THIS online community


“This is the only place in the whole Scripture where this word heretic occurs; and here it evidently means a man that obstinately persists in contending about foolish questions, and thereby occasions strifes and animosities, schisms and parties, among the faithful. This, and this alone, is a heretic in the Scripture sense.

I'm done wasting my time with you.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

If the gospel does not take away the penalty of sin. Your still under the wage of sin, which is death..

Then there’s the often twisted scriptures declaring:

“…if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.” (Hebrews 10:26-27)

 

[ChristisGod]

Your gospel was invented by Luther. If you knew the bible and church history you would realize that what I teach is both Apostolic and of Christ. The sheer ignorance of your religious stance shows here. You think a recent perversion of the bible by a protesting mob is worth more than all the saintly testimony of the apostles and their successors (not to mention the teachings of Jesus Himself). The great delusion indeed.

You are pathetic.

And covering up the penalty for sins being more important than the power over sin by grace through faith? Ridiculous and laughable.

I know that you crows only agree on some of your own errors. You would squabble over anything given the chance. What you all HATE is the truth. That's where you have common ground. You like each others posts to prop up the flesh. But how many are SO deluded as to think the power OVER sin is nothing compared to covering up the penalty for sin???

Is not the cure better than always being in bondage? But your unbelief only requires a "reformed" religion...not a living faith.

More fruit not from the Spirit.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It is the power of God to be set free from the corrupt flesh ...to be liberated in the inner man to be translated into Zion to walk in resurrection life. To walk as Jesus walked without sin. In Him is no sin.

But I'm casting pearls here before swine. Away with you Oink-tions.

If the wage or penalty of sin and a not removed your still dead in sin.

Those who are dead will be delivered to Christ for judgement

 

[amigo de christo]

Dont let him drag you down my friend . He is the one who will have to stand before God
and answer for why he omitted the dire necessity to believe on Christ .
Just march onwards in the Lord my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

--direct access to the throne-no need for rebirth, and the Scriptures-the beginning of a cult.

And the lambs shall heed no such men or doctrine my friend . We are sticking to Christ and shall love and embrace the pure
and holy doctrine of our Lord .

 

[amigo de christo]

In your imagination...what other religion do I preach, pray tell? Are you going to make one up for me...so you can posture yourself in a virtue-signaling way...as per usual? Or are you going to quote me?

The religion that lies and tells folks there is no need to believe on Christ , but rather gives
them a works path to God . If one does not believe on HE who actually was crucified on the CROSS
then no matter how much they try and teach the power of the cross , ITS ALL IN VAIN EPI .
Till you figure that one out you are lost in your sins .

 

[amigo de christo]

Saint? Where in the world did you read in scripture that you or anyone else here is a saint?

Paul called the believers saints . It aint who the pope decides is a saint or anyone else .
Its those IN CHRIST alone that are saints . Its not complicated .
To many a saint is fast becoming one who simply might have done some good .
NOPE . Its those who actually BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST and those DO GOOD . They BELIEVE IN HIM
and by HIS POWER are then doers of the glorious Word .
Too many are too busy tripping over their own ego , which has grown rather large , to simply see the TRUTH .
And the truth is , there is none that is righteous . But the EGO dont like that truth . NO sir
the EGO dont want to believe and humble itself to admit that .
Instead of COMING to the ONE , CHRIST JESUS who can MAKE THEM RIGHTEOUS
and then by HIS POWER they do that which is good and righteous , THE EGO SAYS , out of my way CHRIST
I CAN GET THE JOB DONE WITHOUT YOU .
You and epi are the ones STUCK in EGO LAND . The lambs are glued to CHRIST
who has saved them from SELF , from EGO , from their sins , from their pride
and has transformed their hearts to walk in holiness and righteousness .
Cast aside self and humble yourself under the mighty hand of GOD .
Run to CHRIST and never look back . Pointing only TO HE and HE ALONE and being hearers and doers of all things He taught .

 

[amigo de christo]

Leggo your ego and RUN to CHRIST .

 

[Johann]

Why so much interest in those who have been born again? What have you found in your research?

I have found that many have been induced to believe they are something they are not. A tree is known of ts fruit.

Why are you in denial of the necessity of the rebirth?

 

[amigo de christo]

Yup, your time is up-don't be surprised when all your threads are locked.
Give me your definition of salvation, as written in Scriptures, since the Second Plural, Singular is not to us, according to you--and your psychotic, narcissistic behavior is flying over my head.

Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
Tit 3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

A man that is a heretic — Greek, αιρετικον, a party or schism-maker, namely, in the church, among the true, genuine people of God; or one that causes divisions among those that are united in Christian fellowship; see on Rom_16:17; after the first and second admonition — From thee and the elders of the church, given with proper solemnity; reject — Avoid, and declare him unfit to be any longer looked upon as a member of your community.

You are a danger to THIS online community


“This is the only place in the whole Scripture where this word heretic occurs; and here it evidently means a man that obstinately persists in contending about foolish questions, and thereby occasions strifes and animosities, schisms and parties, among the faithful. This, and this alone, is a heretic in the Scripture sense.

I'm done wasting my time with you.

A grave danger indeed . There has arisen a problem within a lot of mindsets which will simply
allow a dangerous one to continue . But that is not at all how paul would have dealt with such a man .
All i desired was good for Epi . But he is a danger that refuses to repent .

 

[amigo de christo]

Why are you in denial of the necessity of the rebirth?

Because he is in denial that one must even BELIEVE ON CHRIST . Rather its all about casting aside the DIRE
need to BELIEVE ON CHRIST and then trying to run the race with your own cross . That mindset
can never finish the race , because in truth it never began the race . It never picked up its cross .
It never followed Christ . So how then can it endure . It cant .
When folks come along and try and preach another gospel that says Ye dont have to believe on Christ
WELL , my advice is it dont really matter what they then try and teach or preach . ITS ALL VAIN .
They already replaced the chief cornerstone of the entire foundation and thus all they do is build a house on sinking sand .
The DIRE necessity to believe on CHRIST , IS TRULY A MUST . Now lift those hands up my friend
and let the LORD be praised . The lambs follow HIM , the KING of kings and LORD o lords .
And HE is THE WAY , THE TRUTH and THE LIFE, and try as they may , NO MAN can come to the FATHER but BY HIM .
The parable of the wedding garments . Now how did you come in here my friend ,
and the man was speechless . THERE IS NO WAY , BUT IN JESUS CHRIST . Let all that has breath praise ,
thank and continually POINT TO THE GOD OF CHRIST always .

 

[Johann]

A grave danger indeed . There has arisen a problem within a lot of mindsets which will simply
allow a dangerous one to continue . But that is not at all how paul would have dealt with such a man .
All i desired was good for Epi . But he is a danger that refuses to repent .

he is a lone ranger-which makes him doubly dangerous, and this kind of behavior would not be tolerated in any Church.

 

[amigo de christo]

he is a lone ranger-which makes him doubly dangerous, and this kind of behavior would not be tolerated in any Church.

Correct my friend .

 

[Johann]

Because he is in denial that one must even BELIEVE ON CHRIST . Rather its all about casting aside the DIRE
need to BELIEVE ON CHRIST and then trying to run the race with your own cross . That mindset
can never finish the race , because in truth it never began the race . It never picked up its cross .
It never followed Christ . So how then can it endure . It cant .
When folks come along and try and preach another gospel that says Ye dont have to believe on Christ
WELL , my advice is it dont really matter what they then try and teach or preach . ITS ALL VAIN .
They already replaced the chief cornerstone of the entire foundation and thus all they do is build a house on sinking sand .
The DIRE necessity to believe on CHRIST , IS TRULY A MUST . Now lift those hands up my friend
and let the LORD be praised . The lambs follow HIM , the KING of kings and LORD o lords .
And HE is THE WAY , THE TRUTH and THE LIFE, and try as they may , NO MAN can come to the FATHER but BY HIM .
The parable of the wedding garments . Now how did you come in here my friend ,
and the man was speechless . THERE IS NO WAY , BUT IN JESUS CHRIST . Let all that has breath praise ,
thank and continually POINT TO THE GOD OF CHRIST always .

1Co 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

2Ti_2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Other foundation (themelion allon). The gender of the adjective is here masculine as is shown by allon. If neuter, it would be allo. It is masculine because Paul has Christ in mind. It is not here heteron a different kind of gospel (heteron euaggelion, Gal_1:6; 2Co_11:4) which is not another (allo, Gal_1:7) in reality. But another Jesus (2Co_11:4, allon Iēsoun) is a reflection on the one Lord Jesus.

Hence there is no room on the platform with Jesus for another Saviour, whether Buddha, Mahomet, Dowie, Eddy, or what not.

Jesus Christ is the one foundation and it is gratuitous impudence for another to assume the role of Foundation.

Than that which is laid, which is Christ Jesus (para ton keimenon, hos estin Iēsous Christos). Literally, “alongside (para) the one laid (keimenon),” already laid (present middle participle of keimai, used here as often as the perfect passive of tithēmi in place of tetheimenon).

Paul scouts the suggestion that one even in the interest of so-called “new thought” will dare to lay beside Jesus another foundation for religion. And yet I have seen an article by a professor in a theological seminary in which he advocates regarding Jesus as a landmark, not as a goal, not as a foundation.

Clearly Paul means that on this one true foundation, Jesus Christ, one must build only what is in full harmony with the Foundation which is Jesus Christ. If one accuses Paul of narrowness, it can be replied that the architect has to be narrow in the sense of building here and not there.

A broad foundation will be too thin and unstable for a solid and abiding structure. It can be said also that Paul is here merely repeating the claim of Jesus himself on this very subject when he quoted Psa_118:22. to the members of the Sanhedrin who challenged his authority (Mar_11:10.; Mat_21:42-45; Luk_20:17.). Apostles and prophets go into this temple of God, but Christ Jesus is the chief corner stone (akrogōnaios, Eph_2:20). All believers are living stones in this temple (1Pe_2:5). But there is only one foundation possible.
Robertson

I concur with you--

1Co_2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Rom_1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

J.