Scripture says "in His Name, the Gentiles will trust" - what will 'Evolutionist Gentiles' trust in Jesus?

[Gottservant]

Do you think there is something to the idea, that Evolution is an abuse of hierarchy? Like "Men" have 'status', that Evolution flaunts, in order to make character judgments of people that don't agree with men giving themselves their own place on the Tree of Nature? It sort of flaunts overreach of the idea that you are responsible, for where you stand on the Tree of Nature? You don't need to be responsible, because you are your own creature?

An abuse of hierarchy is something God can change, right?

 

[Gottservant]

Is there credence to the idea that Evolution relies on categories of creature, for contrast against which, creatures may change?

Like if there were no categories of creature (monkey, elephant, zebra) then how a creature (monkey to man, mammoth to elephant, horse to zebra) changed, would be of no description?

You need the original category, for contrast's sake? There is no point, at which the prior category has no further utility! Ut-il-ity!!

 

[Gottservant]

[...] There is no point, at which the prior category has no further utility! Ut-il-ity!!

The Devil insists that he can make progress, without honour. I think this is likely a mistake.

How to reason with the Devil, is the issue here. If adaptation is needed later, it should be possible to hold off using it up front?

The thing is, the Devil wants to take a risk, if he can get the praise of God without doing the will of God, then he can play God. The thing is, what does that achieve, in terms of "Evolution"? If you fake "Evolution", surely the nearest danger will compromise all that you had planned?

 

[Gottservant]

Here's something: why be worried about how you will survive? If you commit to work, for your life, the opportunity to decide in favour of great flourishing will come! You won't need to recreate flourishing bit by bit, it will take place in you - you might even get a second wind!

What is this idea? Only that the man who waits for every 'survival' has a life fraught with doubt; the man who trusts the life God has given him, to the end, comes to know the truth intimately... is that not better than 'survival'?

The 'survival' of the Lord, died on the cross - but what was resurrected was a "super-surpassing" that overtook even the most evolved. We need to take hold of this! It needs to become our secret inner mantra! To the end!!

 

[Gottservant]

Something I hate: is that we are told "deal with the lesser mutations, first" because "they could prompt or be a good thing". Whereas, I think it makes sense, to deal with the biggest "mistake" first, whatever the mutation is - then you can deal with lesser mistakes and the mutations associated with them. There is a matter of urgency, about this. The longer you hope that a single mutation, will come to justify ever further adaptation, the closer you come to cancer or the justification of it. It had to be said, I hope it will meaningfully be listened to!

 

[Gottservant]

The best way to honour past developments of the species, is to anticipate honouring them to the end. (selah)

 

[Gottservant]

Part of me thinks: if there were a more benign alternative to mutation, men would accept it. (?)

 

[Gottservant]

What about the idea, that Christian Evolution "enables you to be a Man, for longer"?

Is that a preferrable recontextualization?

 

[Gottservant]

What about the rainbow?

Is it evolving, because it changes color?

 

[Gottservant]

I think this may be close to the most encouraging thing you can say about Evolution:

Expanding on an Evolution that you already had, is skillful (selah)

 

[St. SteVen]

Does it really matter?

It doesn't matter to God, so, let that be exactly how much it should matter to you.

Good response to the OP.

The human tendency is to think we need to get our act together before we are acceptable to God.
I like the message of the old crusade song, Just as I am.

 

[Behold]

Good response to the OP.

The human tendency is to think we need to get our act together before we are acceptable to God.
I like the message of the old crusade song, Just as I am.

"Self righteousness".....is ...... trying to save yourself.

This manifests in the unbeliever as ......"Im as good as you, so, if God saved you, i dont have to worry about it".

And in the believer , self righteousness manifests as....>" I can lose my salvation".....or "here is what i have to do to stay saved".

The interesting thing about the self righteous believer, is that their PRIDE is so great that they believe they have more power to lose salvation, then Christ and God have the power of Redemption.

That is a serious "pride" issue.....to believe that you can undo what God almighty has done through the Cross.

 

[Gottservant]

Good response to the OP.

The human tendency is to think we need to get our act together before we are acceptable to God.
I like the message of the old crusade song, Just as I am.

Yes, but it is the message of the anti-Christ, that we don't need to change (from sin to glory)?

 

[Gottservant]

"Self righteousness".....is ...... trying to save yourself.
[...]

There is a difference between trying to save yourself, and being inspired because you are saved.

I want to know what will "inspire" Evolutionists! Think with me, here!

 

[Gottservant]

I think many of us, have an internal "unction" to make the most of our 'Evolution' - like we want to make something of ourselves, for the glory of God's sake. Therefore we needed to ask God "make me something that brings Glory to You, In Jesus Name Amen"!

 

[Gottservant]

Two theories at odds, what is needed is a way to be slightly more than compatible (selah)

 

[Gottservant]

I think there is something to be said, for the possibility of God expanding on Evolution, for the sake of imparting skillfulness to His Children.

For example, we want to be given Reprieve (from God) from Evolution that only leads to "cancer". That's only possible, if God can operate outside selection pressure, to create a new heart in us (as the scripture said).

I'm not trying to exonerate God, I think God really is willing, to make us more skillful (through Evolution) than we have been.

 

[St. SteVen]

Yes, but it is the message of the anti-Christ, that we don't need to change (from sin to glory)?

Regeneration is the work of God, not the work of us. It needs to be on his timetable.
What happened when Abram took things in his own hands?

 

[Gottservant]

I think God has guided me, to the point that I can nail it: God gives us the selection pressures of our life!

If we are willing, God will change us, even by a change of pressure.

We must learn to embrace, the pressure of God!

 

[St. SteVen]

I think God has guided me, to the point that I can nail it: God gives us the selection pressures of our life!

If we are willing, God will change us, even by a change of pressure.

We must learn to embrace, the pressure of God!

Sounds like a pressing issue.