How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[Eternally Grateful]

We should confess it . AND REPENT OF IT , forsake it .

what about the person who struggles.. Their bessetting sin. the sin they do not want to do. but they keep falling back to.

do we condemn this person as lost? Or do we stand by this person..

 

[Jim B]

Well you are spot on right about the fact i aint their master . I thank you for saying that my friend .
But out of love for all i must warn out against those who are false and such falsehoods they do teach .

You are fooling yourself to think that the attacks and intolerance of others that you continually post is out of love. Where is the love in continually attacking others?

 

[Jim B]

Yes its been heading that direction for years now. The enemy knows how to clothe and disguise himself in religious ways that have an appearance of good on the outside.

Like some of the people who post often on this forum.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That's the point! In Him is no sin. All the excuses are just religious mumbo-jumbo. When the standard is so high you better be sure that you are not claiming to be more than you are.

If a king with 10,000 is to meet another king with 20,000...doesn't he try to make conditions of peace knowing that he is doubly overmatched?

So we have to know the standard we are up against. Otherwise we will have started something but stopped short after we commenced and were unable to finish.

Unless we surrender early...we will be defeated by the standard we are claiming...and cast away to be with the hypocrites. Our religious certainty will be exposed for what it is...fables.

In HIM is no sin. You are not him

You better not go to Christ and think you have no sin, when you have much sin..

You can deny you sin all you want. it will not make it true.

John said, if we claim we have no sin, we are deceived.

You want to be deceived like a few others here. feel free.

 

[Episkopos]

That's the point! In Him is no sin. All the excuses are just religious mumbo-jumbo. When the standard is so high you better be sure that you are not claiming to be more than you are.

If a king with 10,000 is to meet another king with 20,000...doesn't he try to make conditions of peace knowing that he is doubly overmatched?

So we have to know the standard we are up against. Otherwise we will have started something but stopped short after we commenced and were unable to finish.

Unless we surrender early...we will be defeated by the standard we are claiming...and cast away to be with the hypocrites. Our religious certainty will be exposed for what it is...fables.

still no scripture only your opinions which are not Scripture nor inspired. Please let us know when you are willing to discuss the Bible not your opinions. Thanks !

hope this helps !!!

Luke 14:30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?
32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Now go back over my post....compare what I wrote to these verses...read your silly comment and do this over and over until you get it into your head...that you are WAY over your head discussing anything from the bible.


Stick to fishing

Hope this helps!

 

[marks]

(Which we know can't be true, for one thing since the bible says the worship of idols is worshiping demons.)

There is one Name given under heaven by which all men must be saved.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life, and no one comes to the Father but by Me", that Name, it's Jesus, and none other.

Much love!

 

[marks]

At-least a half dozen questions I asked to clarify what is being said have been avoided, deflected.

Perhaps the agenda isn't truth.

Much love!

 

[VictoryinJesus]

if we hide our sins and deny them, we most likely will be hardened by them, and think they are not really sins. and we will not find healing.

we have to be open. Paul said (I believe) confess our sins to one another for healing,,I wonder if this is why many Christians are so judgmental. Because thjey are forced to see their own sin. instead of confessing it, They hide it, and look to people who do more "severe" sins in their mind, and lie to themselves by saying, At least I am not like that person..

You made me think of another part of confession…withholding forgiveness.

Not our withholding of our own forgiveness toward another …but withholding another’s opportunity for forgiveness or perfected in our loss (yet gain). Our being fearful of losing all things preventing and withholding …another’s opportunity. Where He said by the loss of all things …you gain back twice as much. To me this is what He means in a willingness to lose our own image that we may gain His. It also makes me think of why it is said to leave your sacrifice and go to him who you have something against.

 

[Jim B]

Sadly, This is a major issue in the church. The church has not really strayed that far from where Israel was in the time of Christ. It thinks it is special. it has arrived. Thank God I am not like the sinner (even though you are)

the pride of many who call itself the church is outlandish. and sad.

Jesus said I did not come to Judge, I came to save.. Yet the church thinks we are sent out to Judge..

I like what Paul said in romans 2. Even though it was written to the proud jews. I believe it fits much of the church today.

2 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things. 3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? 5 But in accordance with your hardness and your [a]impenitent heart you are [b]treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,

Oy! Are you a disciple of amigo de christo? He condemns the church -- the body of Christ -- in a similar fashion. Who are you to rail against the body of Christ? The church are His people, the sheep of His pasture.

You condemn people for judging, yet you are doing exactly the same thing! Read you chosen Scripture and pay attention to how it applies TO YOU!!! "Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things ... And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? ... But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath".

As I have suggested several times to amigo de christo, you should read and heed the parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector in Luke 18:9-14, "Jesus also told this parable to some who were confident that they were righteous and looked down on everyone else. “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee] and the other a tax collector The Pharisee stood and prayed about himself like this: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people: extortionists, unrighteous people, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give a tenth of everything I get.’ The tax collector, however, stood far off and would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, be merciful to me, sinner that I am!’ I tell you that this man went down to his home justified rather than the Pharisee. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.”

 

[ChristisGod]

Like some of the people who post often on this forum.

are you excluded or included as some of the people ?

say what you mean and mean what you say Jim instead of beating around the bush. Thanks !

 

[ChristisGod]

Luke 14:30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?
32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Now go back over my post....compare what I wrote to these verses...read your silly comment and do this over and over until you get it into your head...that you are WAY over your head discussing anything from the bible.


Stick to fishing

Hope this helps!

Is that how Jesus would respond ?

Is that how the fruit of the spirit is evident by making personal insults ?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You made me think of another part of confession…withholding forgiveness.

Not our withholding of our own forgiveness toward another …but withholding another’s opportunity for forgiveness or perfected in our loss (yet gain). Our being fearful of losing all things preventing and withholding …another’s opportunity. Where He said by the loss of all things …you gain back twice as much. To me this is what He means in a willingness to lose our own image that we may gain His. It also makes me think of why it is said to leave your sacrifice and go to him who you have something against.

The proud persons demands forgiveness but refuses to forgive others

 

[Jim B]

are you excluded or included as some of the people ?

say what you mean and mean what you say Jim instead of beating around the bush. Thanks !

What I have written, I have written.

 

[Jim B]

Is that how Jesus would respond ?

Is that how the fruit of the spirit is evident by making personal insults ?

Applies to you!

 

[amigo de christo]

You are fooling yourself to think that the attacks and intolerance of others that you continually post is out of love. Where is the love in continually attacking others?

attacking . or simply correcting .
You dont see me sending videos mocking everyone .
I simply correct .

 

[ChristisGod]

Applies to you!

applies to everyone, have I insulted you personally and if so please quote me Jim. Thanks.

 

[ChristisGod]

What I have written, I have written.

so ambiguity is ok I guess. thanks anyways.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

The proud persons demands forgiveness but refuses to forgive others

I have something heavy on my heart. Wrestling of whether or not to share it. I have an example …I don’t know how long it would be though. Do you want to read it? Or pass?

 

[Jim B]

attacking . or simply correcting .
You dont see me sending videos mocking everyone .
I simply correct .

And modest! LOL!!!

All you ever do is "correct" others. You have the assumption that you are correct and just about every other Christian is not You are clearly deceived. You just enjoy setting yourself up as some kind of religious authority who has been given the task of judging other Christians and "correcting" them. When do you ever say anything positive about your brothers and sisters in Christ? Why don't you think that Jesus can tend His own flock?

 

[Jim B]

so ambiguity is ok I guess. thanks anyways.

Saying amibiguity is ok I guess is ambiguous!