How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[ChristisGod]

I know of at least three here

Well that is good to know.

 

[amigo de christo]

I know of at least three here

There are others who are also infected to some degree as well . This site is blessed to be one of the few places
left to stand against the move of the inclusivity of francis and the all inclusive . You should see
some mega churches who believe this stuff . We got us a major problem brewing .
This inclusivity is what leads to the three temples and is leading to unficiation of all religoins .
This wee thing read about inclusivity and its bad news , but it can be spun very DECPETIVELY to sound like a good thing .

 

[amigo de christo]

If someone is seeking truth God will not let them down.

Much love!

True indeed my friend . THE LORD is with a lamb and all his lambs . They will not sit under a lie . They will not fall for the ruse .

 

[Jim B]

Again incorrect . I am simply warning THE CHURCH about who and what is false .

Assuming that you know who and what is false. You warn and warn and warn and warn -- that is all that you do -- people whom you have never met. You just make blatant negative assumptions about the body of Christ. They have a master to whom they answer -- and it ain't you!

 

[Jim B]

There are others who are also infected to some degree as well . This site is blessed to be one of the few places
left to stand against the move of the inclusivity of francis and the all inclusive . You should see
some mega churches who believe this stuff . We got us a major problem brewing .
This inclusivity is what leads to the three temples and is leading to unficiation of all religoins .
This wee thing read about inclusivity and its bad news , but it can be spun very DECPETIVELY to sound like a good thing .

A perfect example!

 

[amigo de christo]

Assuming that you know who and what is false. You warn and warn and warn and warn -- that is all that you do -- people whom you have never met. You just make blatant negative assumptions about the body of Christ. They have a master to whom they answer -- and it ain't you!

Well you are spot on right about the fact i aint their master . I thank you for saying that my friend .
But out of love for all i must warn out against those who are false and such falsehoods they do teach .

 

[amigo de christo]

A perfect example!

cause its true . There are some others here . I watch folks my friend .
But the good thing is , some on this site SURE are contending for the true faith and helping to expose that which is false .
And yes indeed i have seen whole mega churches that have been taken in under the all inclusive lie .
You got a main preacher , calls himself the POPE . LOOK what its doing . This stuff is not just fringe religion of a few .
ITS ALL OVER POLITICS , its all over churches and its all over other religions jim .
I will warn against it . Other religions are NOT FINDING their way to GOD through their love and good works . THAT IS FALSE JIM
ONLY THOSE whose faith is in CHRIST come to the FATHER . THERE IS NO OTHER WAY and there is no other plan of salvation .
I actually read books jim and do my own research . I DO not accuse lightly . THEY ARE FALSE jim .
Look i know pope francis IS a very nice guy and all , BUT HE and others are leading the faiths and the other false religions
INTO A GREAT BIG LIE that wont save One of them .

 

[amigo de christo]

A perfect example!

a perfect example . how about just a good example of the love of God that has been shed upon my heart by grace
that does warn out against such men . ITS LOVE JIM . this is not hate . I dont wish the death of pope francis .
I wish he would repent . BUT TILL HE DO , i will expose him for his lies and this delusion of the all inclusion .

 

[Waiting on him]

Good grief

 

[Waiting on him]

As I said….. Role playing!

 

[ChristisGod]

As I said….. Role playing!

what is "role playing " suppose to mean or imply when discussing the Bible ?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

what is "role playing " suppose to mean or imply when discussing the Bible ?

I am still waiting on him/her to explain what Jesus meant when he mentioned the serpent on John 3..

they are just deflecting

 

[Lizbeth]

I do believe that one has to believe in Jesus to be saved. I don't know why you think otherwise.

BTW, what is this "religoin" of all inclusivity? (Aside from the confusing grammar.)

You might know it as the ecumenical movement....and secular people have what they call a "Co-Exist" movement (you might have seen their bumper stickers). It's a belief that has infiltrated many churches and hearts that says all beliefs/religions lead to God. A belief that says one doesn't need to have Christ in order to be saved. A belief that says all religions are worshiping the same God. (Which we know can't be true, for one thing since the bible says the worship of idols is worshiping demons.)

This is a movement that seeks unity over Truth, and is ultimately seeking to 'unify' all the world religions, with a goal of bringing about a utopia of world peace on earth. The Catholic church is leading the charge on this right now in 'Christian' circles, but also it is the openly stated goal of the religious Jews involved in making preparations to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem (Temple Institute). The more you look the more you see how much Catholicism has in common with Babylonish Judaism......it's as though they are the two arms of Mystery Babylon, Jew and Gentile...of the same spirit. Seducing souls and counterfeiting the true things of God.

 

[ChristisGod]

I am still waiting on him/her to explain what Jesus meant when he mentioned the serpent on John 3..

they are just deflecting

At-least a half dozen questions I asked to clarify what is being said have been avoided, deflected.

 

[ChristisGod]

You might know it as the ecumenical movement....and secular people have what they call a "Co-Exist" movement (you might have seen their bumper stickers). It's a belief that has infiltrated many churches and hearts that says all beliefs/religions lead to God. A belief that says one doesn't need to have Christ in order to be saved. A belief that says all religions are worshiping the same God. (Which we know can't be true, for one thing since the bible says the worship of idols is worshiping demons.)

This is a movement that seeks unity over Truth, and is ultimately seeking to 'unify' all the world religions, with a goal of bringing about a utopia of world peace on earth. The Catholic church is leading the charge on this right now in 'Christian' circles, but also it is the openly stated goal of the religious Jews involved in making preparations to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem (Temple Institute). The more you look the more you see how much Catholicism has in common with Babylonish Judaism......it's as though they are the two arms of Mystery Babylon, Jew and Gentile...of the same spirit. Seducing souls and counterfeiting the true things of God.

Yes its been heading that direction for years now. The enemy knows how to clothe and disguise himself in religious ways that have an appearance of good on the outside.

 

[Episkopos]

You might know it as the ecumenical movement....and secular people have what they call a "Co-Exist" movement (you might have seen their bumper stickers). It's a belief that has infiltrated many churches and hearts that says all beliefs/religions lead to God. A belief that says one doesn't need to have Christ in order to be saved. A belief that says all religions are worshiping the same God. (Which we know can't be true, for one thing since the bible says the worship of idols is worshiping demons.)

There are two kinds of religious nuts.

There are the exclusivists ("all are going to hell except you and me and I'm not so sure about you"). These are the Pharisees..the kind of fundamentalists that kills the prophets of God and put Jesus on the cross. These are enemies of righteousness. These take away from the words of God.

And then there are the inclusivists who decide based on their own positive affirming disposition who is acceptable to God ...mostly everybody. These are enemies of holiness. These add to the words of God.

The world is divided between liberals and conservatives because no one understands balance. But, with God any false balance is abomination.

So then the wise are neither one nor the other. The spiritual are not religious...but are motivated by the mind of Christ. Now a radical fundamentalist will see EVERYBODY who is not similarly hypocritical...as an inclusivist. And a liberal ecumaniac will see everyone who makes proper exclusionary judgments as a fundamentalist, judgmental legalist.

There is a time for every purpose under heaven. A person who always goes in one direction is going in circles.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

There are two kinds of religious nuts.

There are the exclusivists ("all are going to hell except you and me and I'm not so sure about you"). These are the Pharisees..the kind of fundamentalists that kills the prophets of God and put Jesus on the cross. These are enemies of righteousness. These take away from the words of God.

And then there are the inclusivists who decide based on their own positive affirming disposition who is acceptable to God ...mostly everybody. These are enemies of holiness. These add to the words of God.

The world is divided between liberals and conservatives because no one understands balance. But, with God any false balance is abomination.

So then the wise are neither one nor the other. The spiritual are not religious...but are motivated by the mind of Christ. Now a radical fundamentalist will see EVERYBODY who is not similarly hypocritical...as an inclusivist. And a liberal ecumaniac will see everyone who makes proper exclusionary judgments as a fundamentalist, judgmental legalist.

then there are the realists.

Those who have repented of their good works. have repented of their sinfulness. and have agreed with God that they are rightly judged.

And in faith. they respond to Gods call and receive his gift of salvation.

These people are saved, they have eternal life. they are not looking for it hoping they will get it.

 

[Episkopos]

then there are the realists.

Those who have repented of their good works. have repented of their sinfulness. and have agreed with God that they are rightly judged.

And in faith. they respond to Gods call and receive his gift of salvation.

These people are saved, they have eternal life. they are not looking for it hoping they will get it.

Religious certainty is as strong as any narcotic. It gets in the way of biblical faith. The Pharisees were just as certain as you are...and from exactly the same kind of outer man belief. Of course, the religious person will say that their beliefs are much better than other kinds. They ALL say that. One drug user will swear that the drug he/she is taking s better than what others are taking. This is not about Jesus...but the person claiming to have all the benefits for himself...and then claiming others do not.

What you need is faith in Christ not religious beliefs about Jesus and all the benefits you have stored for yourself based on religious certainty.

 

[Lizbeth]

There are two kinds of religious nuts.

There are the exclusivists ("all are going to hell except you and me and I'm not so sure about you"). These are the Pharisees..the kind of fundamentalists that kills the prophets of God and put Jesus on the cross. These are enemies of righteousness. These take away from the words of God.

And then there are the inclusivists who decide based on their own positive affirming disposition who is acceptable to God ...mostly everybody. These are enemies of holiness. These add to the words of God.

The world is divided between liberals and conservatives because no one understands balance. But, with God any false balance is abomination.

So then the wise are neither one nor the other. The spiritual are not religious...but are motivated by the mind of Christ. Now a radical fundamentalist will see EVERYBODY who is not similarly hypocritical...as an inclusivist. And a liberal ecumaniac will see everyone who makes proper exclusionary judgments as a fundamentalist, judgmental legalist.

There is a time for every purpose under heaven. A person who always goes in one direction is going in circles.

The wages of sin is death. As opposed to eternal life. How does anyone receive the spirit of adoption without Christ. Anyone without Christ is "none of His". How does anyone who is none of His escape the wages of sin, ie, death, when the only way to escape death is to receive eternal life. But all who are ordained to eternal life will believe in Him, God will make sure of that. There is salvation in no other Name. There is just no other way to no longer be dead in one's sins, except through Christ. (Being dead in one's sins means not having eternal life.)

 

[Episkopos]

The wages of sin is death.

Yes, even for believers.

As opposed to eternal life.

Eternal life is to walk as Jesus walked without sin. Or, it can be an inheritance after judgment day. Few know that there is a difference..hence all the bad doctrine.

How does anyone receive the spirit of adoption without Christ.

It's impossible.

Anyone without Christ is "none of His".

That's right. We don't belong to God unless we are in Christ.

How does anyone who is none of His escape the wages of sin, ie, death, when the only way to escape death is to receive eternal life.

This is what I ask all those who mock the higher walk.

But all who are ordained to eternal life will believe in Him, God will make sure of that.

Those are your words....religious words that have no depth of understanding. Are you talking about salvation from sin NOW as per the gospel? Or inheriting life in the next age? Do you know the difference?

There is salvation in no other Name.

This is basic. I think you are stuck in the very first step of the walk.

There is just no other way to no longer be dead in one's sins, except through Christ. (Being dead in one's sins means not having eternal life.)

This is what I'm trying to explain to the crows. They can't see the hand in front of them.

And see how you ignore, obfuscate ,and redirect what I say to avoid the truth I am speaking. That says it all.