What does it mean to be born again?

[Waiting on him]

Exactly. look at the approach of those who need to go to the cross. Consider their cry for help. Do my videos come across to you as arrogant and pious? or is it the responses to the truth I teach such?

I have a sense of humour. I don't get flustered easily...and I can play with the unserious.

My maxim is...preach the gospel always and if necessary use humour. :)

If you can be serious and honest with me...then I will be such back.

People who know me see me as a kind of mirror that reflects their own spiritual condition back onto them. In all seriousness, that's a discerning gift I have. It's easily seen by the reactions to what I post on this forum. And it works in real life too.

And this is a good thing. The Lord said...with the pure I am pure, with the upright I am upright, but with the froward I am froward. (Ps 18)

Ahhhh, I get it. When we look at you we see something we don’t like about ourselves.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I am not chasing after them to torment them before their time...they come to get rebukes to their outer man from me (and you). Its driven by a desire to overcome their own flesh...but since they have no strength, courage or faith, to face up to their own flesh... they come to me to do it for them!

...call it a ministry.

I definitely never saw it that way…but I do mercilessly over examine and pick stuff apart to see how I/we work. I do it so much, on a daily basis. It’s almost an OCD type thing, I think. For an example, see rockytopva’s thread on “spiritual etymology.” I just do a bunch of furious scribbles on paper until I understand. LOL! And it pays off. I almost always walk away with a greater understanding of myself, others, human nature, heart motivation, better discernment of spirits, stuff like that.

But I’m going to think on it maybe being a cry for help as you’ve said. I think that’s at least a present element. And the often repeated old saw has some relevance too - hurt people hurt people.

 

[Waiting on him]

I am speaking the truth. A religious spirit is tormented by the truth. Those who resist the truth will be rejected by the Lord...so it's better to get that sorted out now. I'm willing to be abused by carnal believers in order to help them see their past their own flesh.

This is no judgment on my part. I'm always extending a helping hand ONCE the truth is received.

Do you understand what's at play here? Do you realize your questioning me will fill the outer man with more impetus to resist the truth. Do you care for the souls of others...or do you just want to be molly-coddled like so many here.

The war is between the Spirit and the flesh...and the confusion is to see one as the other.

How can you discern when the truth has been received?

 

[Episkopos]

Ahhhh, I get it. When we look at you we see something we don’t like about ourselves.

Yes. You got it. I am a mirror. And I just point out what the person is seeing...why it is so...and how to escape it. I'm harmless....just trying to help my fellow believers the way I would want to be treated...with a little patience and humour...but speaking truthfully.

 

[Episkopos]

How can you discern when the truth has been received?

We receive the truth on 2 levels. One is that we realize we lack love, mercy, patience, kindness...etc..in our dealings with people. So we turn it around and do what we wouldn't normally do. We take a chance with others. And the other level of truth is that we are walking in an environment of supernatural peace, joy and love. The kingdom of God is love, joy and peace in the Spirit.

I don't negate even the smallest recognition of the truth...whether it be very natural OR supernatural. One without the other is not walking in the truth.

 

[Waiting on him]

We receive the truth on 2 levels. One is that we realize we lack love, mercy, patience, kindness...etc..in our dealings with people. So we turn it around and do what we wouldn't normally do. We take a chance with others. And the other level of truth is that we are walking in an environment of supernatural peace, joy and love. The kingdom of God is love, joy and peace in the Spirit.

I don't negate even the smallest recognition of the truth...whether it be very natural OR supernatural. One without the other is not walking in the truth.

Well I’ll be, if this is your Zion,,, then I’ve walked there.

 

[Episkopos]

Well I’ll be, if this is your Zion,,, then I’ve walked there.

Please elaborate...

 

[Waiting on him]

Just last night I found 20$ in the parking lot at wal-mart, I was conflicted what to do? So, I asked myself,,,, what would Jesus do?

I turned it into wine!

 

[Waiting on him]

Just last night I found 20$ in the parking lot at wal-mart, I was conflicted what to do? So, I asked myself,,,, what would Jesus do?

I turned it into wine!

Lol, you said use humor.

 

[Episkopos]

Lol, you said use humor.

But I don't lie. I said I do it truthfully. I don't mock God and His ways. I mock people and their ways.

 

[Johann]

I mock people and their ways.

So you DO mock "people and their ways" eh Yeshua?

Fools mock at guilt, but among the yesharim there is ratzon

 

[Waiting on him]

Please elaborate...

It seems that what you are saying is the outer man begins to witness something internal that is outside of his own nature or power?

 

[Episkopos]

So you DO mock "people and their ways" eh Yeshua?

I mock people who mock God and His ways...people like you. I can't take you seriously...but you really need help. Although your pride is killing you...I'm trying to speak into your inner man. But instead you will mock the Spirit that is trying to speak to you....through me. Of course this is probably too serious and real since it is a threat to your outer man religious sensibilities. But if you could be honest for a second, you would realize that I can help you.

Why do you keep coming here? To persecute me for the truth? Or...because you realize you need help?

I see that you are trapped within a religious shell that you aren't sure is good or bad. I think you go back and forth on it. But your outer man is mean and nasty. You are going to bite any helping hand.

I can handle that...if you are willing to open up and take courage from your inner man.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Think you misunderstand me--there's no hatred in my heart toward anyone--

This is similar to a politicians promise of transparency and then everyone can plainly see the exact opposite. And you gave away your motivation in your other post where you said his swollen head “won’t give others any opportunity.“ It’s the same as Miriam and Aaron pouting over Moses having some sort of…cache with God and saying, hasnt God spoken to us too?? Well, no, He hadn’t spoken to them - Moses was the only one went the whole way up that mountain to receive words from Gods finger. Aaron received no such thing and, in fact, Aaron didn’t even know what to do when the man with the vision wasn’t there, so he tried to figure it out humanly and had the brilliant idea that began with: give me all your earrings.
Another example is Cain and Abel and how Cain was jealous and furious that God accepted what Abel did. And God said to Cain if HE did what was right, he would be accepted too. But Cain didn’t WANT to do what was right in Gods eyes. He wanted some scheme to take out the one who God accepted for doing what was right in Gods eyes.
Really, really look at and catch that. Because it’s the same thing that goes on here.
IF YOU DO WHAT IS RIGHT, WONT YOU BE ACCEPTED TOO?

And God even makes it pretty easy for us, He says, look, if you accept this man who I have given the vision/understanding to correct course, if you will just accept Him, I will give you THE SAME REWARD AS I WILL GIVE HIM!!

But men will say, nope, I don’t care if he has been given the vision of how to correct our course, I will let this whole plane go down before I will listen! I will take it down myself! I will cut off my own nose!!

 

[Episkopos]

It seems that what you are saying is the outer man begins to witness something internal that is outside of his own nature or power?

The inner man is weak and trapped (imprisoned) within the carnal outer man. Religion just puffs him up. But Jesus came to set us free..by crucifying the outer man and empowering the inner man to walk as Jesus walked.

 

[Waiting on him]

The inner man is weak and trapped (imprisoned) within the carnal outer man. Religion just puffs him up. But Jesus came to set us free..by crucifying the outer man and empowering the inner man to walk as Jesus walked.

Even his enemies were at peace with him.

 

[Episkopos]

Even his enemies were at peace with him.

Amen. Being online is not like being in person. I find that people say and do worse things online because they think they can get away with it. But a Christian should realize that he will come under judgement for every idle word.

 

[Laurina]

Even his enemies were at peace with him.

Proverbs 16:7
When a man’s ways please the LORD, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

 

[Waiting on him]

Amen. Being online is not like being in person. I find that people say and do worse things online because they think they can get away with it. But a Christian should realize that he will come under judgement for every idle word.

God help us!

 

[Waiting on him]

Proverbs 16:7
When a man’s ways please the LORD, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

Who is the enemy in focus here @Laurina ?