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Oh, are you talking about the man who was formally and publicly censured by the AMA for spreading false information about the vaccine and covid itself? He has been thoroughly debunked. I have read his articles and and papers on this and he provides no clinical data, no research, no clinical trials at all as to why he reaches his conclusions- that is pseudo science just like evolution.
I'm in good company. You call Robert Malone MD, pseudo science and me pseudo spiritual.
 

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And globally, how many pregnant women who got the shot had miscarriages and how many did not. A study of just 50 women for a global problem is foolish.

Well which ones have been criminally charged and which ones have a "track record" of evil- and specifically selling deadly poisons as medicine? Al of them do. Drugs have side effects and one needs to consult their physician to see if the benefits would outweigh the risks.

Chemo therapy is a known toxic chemical. It is administered to try to kill the cancerous cells before it kills too many good cells. Is that evil?

It was not hidden. It was all right there in the paper work. Now if you want to discuss should they have had teh right to keep it sealed for 75 years? I would say no. Just like the Kennedy assassination is still mostly under wraps.

Do you recall warnings being given to women? If 40% of babies get dead in a drug trail and that is buried for 75 years (or any time at all) that tells us we are dealing with murder. If 40%, say, of babies are killed for 50 moms, that is what, some 20 dead children? Now if that vaccine is given to a billion moms, that means some 400 million dead babies! Have fun justifying that. It is unspeakably wicked.



Well as forensic research was not done in the study- we simply don't know of any other causes that could be.
If they gave cyanide to moms and many deaths happened, then we would say the deaths were because of the cyanide shots. No? Who needs more? The danger was obvious and should have been addressed in a life and death way. Not swept under the carpet for decades!

Drug companies do not do autopsies- hospitals and coroners do. Are you now implying hospitals and coroners are part of the coverup you are saying is going on?
Many people in the death related industries noted an incredible, and apparently, in their opinion, vaccine related spike in deaths. So many were complicit and aided and abetted the slaughter. No one needs a coroner when we already saw 40% of the babies killed! Why pretend otherwise? You seem to want to fast track known killer therapies and cover it up, and have coroners or others, years later look into it?


Well I would tend to agree with you that pregnant women should not be administered teh shot until further work was done to know the causes of why getting a shot also indiced miscarriages. But that means looking at many other factors that could also contribute to themiscarriages that the shot exacerbates. That is how responsible research is done.
It also means fessing up loud and fast to prevent other babies dying. The opposite is what we saw. That seems to be first degree murder to me. Knowingly causing mass deaths. Those who justify that are accomplices as far as I am concerned.

I never thought that big brother is our friend. They were guilty of not making documents open. All companies keep documents secret including pharmaceutical companies. Microsoft keeps documents secret. Doctors do, hospitals o, drug companies do, auto makes do etc.etc.. Unless you can prove a deliberate and will ful coverup to hide 22 miscarriages in light of the thousands of deaths related to getting the shot, you are over reacting.

The proof is in the pudding. If you know that nearly half the people die in a test, and get caught covering it up, is that not the proof? No one needs to wait years until some supposed experts come in and inspect every possible contributing factor. Heck, could anyone even inspect what all was in those shots??
Please show me any biblical principle that says a company keeping records secret is evil??????
Cain killed his brother and lied about it, tried to cover it up. In fact one title of Satan was the anointed cherub that covers if I recall! Killers have no right to darkness.

They may very well be guilty
Either they covered it up and 40% of their victims died, and they proceeded to foist it on billions more people or not. Is that really any question?

, but I am not going to go all henny penny without seeing some real empirical data and evidence-

People are in a study using a substance. 40% and more die. That is evidence! When it is hidden and covered up that is evidence!

And as believers we are even more responsible for getting facts before we make sweeping condemnations.
In your dreams maybe. People in Russia apparently can't force an anti Genesis gender identity or sexual practices on little children as is done here. That merits, no demands, sweeping condemnation. The facts we need to have are whether a therapy that killed almost half the people in it was covered up or not. Yes little people are people too. If that treatment was then knowingly given to untold millions of other people that is murder in the first degree as far as I can see. Deliberate, calculated murder.
 
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The doctors who were banned from Twitter during COVID are the only ones I trust.
 

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I'm in good company. You call Robert Malone MD, pseudo science and me pseudo spiritual.
Well as both of you have been rebuked by others who have more knowledge, I wouldn't brag. Show me his research and clinical studies to prove me wrong. Other wise you are doing your usual, just blurting out something and then playing twister to avoid giving an honest answer.
 

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Do you recall warnings being given to women? If 40% of babies get dead in a drug trail and that is buried for 75 years (or any time at all) that tells us we are dealing with murder. If 40%, say, of babies are killed for 50 moms, that is what, some 20 dead children? Now if that vaccine is given to a billion moms, that means some 400 million dead babies! Have fun justifying that. It is unspeakably wicked.


Well I did not follow every single tid bit of info on the vaccines that were ever given in the medias so I can't say. I can't even say if miscarriages were even listed as one of the possible side effects.


when was this study done? what kind of clinical trial was it and where? Were follow up studies done? I am not saying it was not some kind of evil, but you are just blurting out numbers without backing them with hard data as to why.
If they gave cyanide to moms and many deaths happened, then we would say the deaths were because of the cyanide shots. No? Who needs more? The danger was obvious and should have been addressed in a life and death way. Not swept under the carpet for decades!

Well the world knows cyanide is a deadly toxin that kills.


Here is the complete list of side effects as of 8/19/22 It says a women who is pregnant should consult here doctor first. so much for being hidden.

Type of Ingredient
Ingredient
Purpose

Messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA)
  • Nucleoside-modified mRNA encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2
Provides instructions the body uses to build a harmless piece of a protein from the virus that causes COVID-19. This protein causes an immune response that helps protect the body from getting sick with COVID-19 in the future.
Lipids (fats)
  • 2[(polyethylene glycol (PEG))-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide
  • 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine
  • Cholesterol (plant derived)
  • ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate)
Work together to help the mRNA enter cells.
Sugar and acid stabilizers
  • Sucrose (table sugar)
  • Tromethamine
  • Tromethamine hydrochloride
Work together to help keep the vaccine in good condition (molecules remain stable) while the vaccine is manufactured, frozen, shipped, and stored until it is ready to be given to a vaccine recipient.

Here is the full list of ingredients for pfizer (the most popular) show me the poison in it.
 

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Well as both of you have been rebuked by others who have more knowledge, I wouldn't brag. Show me his research and clinical studies to prove me wrong. Other wise you are doing your usual, just blurting out something and then playing twister to avoid giving an honest answer.

No matter how many times I show good reports about medical data. Or state Bible verses that anyone can clearly read. You will say oh no that is not true because I don't believe it and so therefore it's wrong which means you did not provide any data and that also means you're playing games. Here's a good report again, that has many very experienced medical professionals...

Died Suddenly - World Premiere (Full documentary just released in HD)
 

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It also means fessing up loud and fast to prevent other babies dying. The opposite is what we saw. That seems to be first degree murder to me. Knowingly causing mass deaths. Those who justify that are accomplices as far as I am concerned.
I showed you a warning from pfizer about pregnant women.
The proof is in the pudding. If you know that nearly half the people die in a test, and get caught covering it up, is that not the proof? No one needs to wait years until some supposed experts come in and inspect every possible contributing factor. Heck, could anyone even inspect what all was in those shots??
It is good prima-facie evidence. but if that is all you went to court with- you would lose. Millions of pregnant women have taken the shot and the global miscarriage rate is nowhere even close to 40%. that shows that more study should be done to find out why these 22 women had this kind of adverse reaction when millions of others did not.
Cain killed his brother and lied about it, tried to cover it up. In fact one title of Satan was the anointed cherub that covers if I recall! Killers have no right to darkness.
So are you trying to say that the pharma houses are intentionally trying to kill people as well as drug stores and hospitals and doctors?
Either they covered it up and 40% of their victims died, and they proceeded to foist it on billions more people or not. Is that really any question?

You love using that percentage because it is so high. but the study group was tiny in comparison to nearly all other clinical trials. what about the millions of pregnant women who took the shots and did not have miscarriages. Here is an actual study :
People are in a study using a substance. 40% and more die. That is evidence! When it is hidden and covered up that is evidence!
40% of 50 is alot. 2% of 50,000,000 is less. So what do you wish to use ,%'s or hard numbers. BTW the empirical data shows that women infected with covid and are pregnant have a miscarriage rate of 15.% which is within the range of normal miscarriages without covid.
In your dreams maybe. People in Russia apparently can't force an anti Genesis gender identity or sexual practices on little children as is done here. That merits, no demands, sweeping condemnation. The facts we need to have are whether a therapy that killed almost half the people in it was covered up or not. Yes little people are people too. If that treatment was then knowingly given to untold millions of other people that is murder in the first degree as far as I can see. Deliberate, calculated murder.

Well show that they took teh 75 year confidentiality to intentionally hide 22 deaths and we can talk. I would think that hiding the fact that 1,000's died from the shot would be more worthy of trying to cover up if one was trying to hide something. don't you?
 

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No matter how many times I show good reports about medical data. Or state Bible verses that anyone can clearly read. You will say oh no that is not true because I don't believe it and so therefore it's wrong which means you did not provide any data and that also means you're playing games. Here's a good report again, that has many very experienced medical professionals...

Died Suddenly - World Premiere (Full documentary just released in HD)
I love Scripture and you have yet to use any on this thread.

As fo rhis movie- when I can freee an hour I will watchi it. But what does that have to do with the proven fact that Malone was internationally censured by the medical community for spreading lies?

Also what does this video have to do with showing any clinical research Malone did to spout His conclusions?

This is just more you throwing garbage out here to muddy the waters and avoid having to answer direct simple questions or providing simple statements.

But here is an interesting empirical fact for you. According to Bloomberg more than 12.7 billion doses of covid vaccines have been administered.

as of 1/6/22 there were 10,483 deaths attributed to the vaccine. extrapolating that out to now and going globally (using liberal numbers) , That would mean 300,000 deaths globally for 12,700,000,000 doeses administered. In other words your chances of dying from a covid shot is: .0000236% or you have a 99.9999764% chance of living after taking a covid shot! This is called hard evidence gathered by real data and not some nutjob web site or you tube video with faulty data.
 

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Well I did not follow every single tid bit of info on the vaccines that were ever given in the medias so I can't say. I can't even say if miscarriages were even listed as one of the possible side effects.

When the test results were over 40% of babies DEAD no one needs some supposed little small print warning that is could cause miscarriages.
when was this study done? what kind of clinical trial was it and where? Were follow up studies done? I am not saying it was not some kind of evil, but you are just blurting out numbers without backing them with hard data as to why.

Rather than trying to find excuses why such glaring results were hidden, you should be asking why they were not shouted from the rooftops rather than buried. With the sort of deception and cover up observed in hiding the danger from these companies, how would we expect any real 'follow up' studies?

Well the world knows cyanide is a deadly toxin that kills.
Yes, and if the results here were not hidden it might know that the shoots also were deadly to babies in this case.



Here is the complete list of side effects as of 8/19/22 It says a women who is pregnant should consult here doctor first. so much for being hidden.
That is a site from one of the companies producing the shot. So why would anyone even read that let alone trust it? (let alone post it?)

I have seen doctors that warn of the dangers of spike proteins and clotting, and the whole approach of playing god and tinkering with creation. How many women were coerced into getting the shots to be able to travel, or work? It is not like all people had some simple choice to get it or not, or that the media offered any unbiased view. Rather than being offered as some small print or fast talk in a TV commercial about a boring list of possible side effects, it should have been offered as almost an abortion method! If over 40% of babies died, yes, I am not kidding.
 

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It is good prima-facie evidence. but if that is all you went to court with- you would lose. Millions of pregnant women have taken the shot and the global miscarriage rate is nowhere even close to 40%. that shows that more study should be done to find out why these 22 women had this kind of adverse reaction when millions of others did not.
Not yet that is being reported. But who thinks there has been honest reporting? Have all the deaths of athletes and young people been reported as suspicious? You cry for studies proving that the covered up test results must be correct while ignoring the deaths and side effects that do warrant such studies. When test results are hidden, that alone demands that the focus be on tossing out all else they said and studying what is really going on.

So are you trying to say that the pharma houses are intentionally trying to kill people as well as drug stores and hospitals and doctors?
I don't even know what a pharma house is. Is that like a crack house? I do know that if 42% of babies end up dead in a test study, that should be revealed. Obviously. If it was covered up then that seems criminal to me.

You love using that percentage because it is so high. but the study group was tiny in comparison to nearly all other clinical trials.
You seem to be suggesting that of the 50 or whatever women used in the study, almost half of them.

"For women who know they’re pregnant, about 10 to 15 in 100 pregnancies (10 to 15 percent) end in miscarriage."

what about the millions of pregnant women who took the shots and did not have miscarriages. Here is an actual study :

40% of 50 is alot. 2% of 50,000,000 is less. So what do you wish to use ,%'s or hard numbers.
I do not consider numbers by known liars to be hard numbers. A cover up is a lie. Looking around at what seems a more objective source, I saw this

"This means that of all the women who reported losing their babies to miscarriage after receiving a single vaccine, 76% (3,414/4,505) received only the COVID-19 vaccine. These women were vaccinated for COVID-19 from December 2020 through March 2022. So, 76% of all the vaccinations that resulted in a baby dying in miscarriage in the past 30 years occurred when pregnant women started receiving COVID-19 vaccines...




Well show that they took teh 75 year confidentiality to intentionally hide 22 deaths and we can talk. I would think that hiding the fact that 1,000's died from the shot would be more worthy of trying to cover up if one was trying to hide something. don't you?

I do not need to show that people seeking to hide under a rock did so because of any particular item that they buried! But when we find results hidden, that shows that they were not children of the light, but of darkness.
 

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When the test results were over 40% of babies DEAD no one needs some supposed little small print warning that is could cause miscarriages.
There was no small print. Every body who gets a shot reads a flyer and consents to having read it. It contains all teh info. I know I HAVE READ IT FIVE TIMES NOW.
Rather than trying to find excuses why such glaring results were hidden, you should be asking why they were not shouted from the rooftops rather than buried. With the sort of deception and cover up observed in hiding the danger from these companies, how would we expect any real 'follow up' studies?
Well seeing how all pharma manufacturers have ot report to the FDA, CDC, NIH and other reporting agencies all those facts, it was not all that hidden.
Yes, and if the results here were not hidden it might know that the shoots also were deadly to babies in this case.
All medicines can be deadly to someone, should we ban all medicines because people die from such benign things as Tylenol and aspirin also?
That is a site from one of the companies producing the shot. So why would anyone even read that let alone trust it? (let alone post it?)

I have seen doctors that warn of the dangers of spike proteins and clotting, and the whole approach of playing god and tinkering with creation. How many women were coerced into getting the shots to be able to travel, or work? It is not like all people had some simple choice to get it or not, or that the media offered any unbiased view. Rather than being offered as some small print or fast talk in a TV commercial about a boring list of possible side effects, it should have been offered as almost an abortion method! If over 40% of babies died, yes, I am not kidding.

And they showed the potential problems like all other medicines do. If people choose not to read it, sorry but that is on them and not the manufacturers. You are excusing personal irresponsibility.

I have seen those same doctors and read their reports- quacks all! Look up even on wiki the covid virus and see the spike protein! The end looks like a crown (hence the name corona) because it is the crown end that attaches to teh host cell and pumps virus genes into the host- it does not tear up arteries or veins- that has long been debunked as untruthful conspiracy theory.

As for clotting- I gave you the complete ingredient list for the pfizer vaccine- show me what will cause blood clotting in anyone.
I do not consider numbers by known liars to be hard numbers. A cover up is a lie. Looking around at what seems a more objective source, I saw this
So you do consider doctors, nurses, research specialists, CCDC,NIH, USAAMRIID, drug companies and drug stores to be known liars! OK then have a nice time in your medicine free world!

And every year in America there are over 500,000 miscarriages! so 3,500 out of 500,000 equals: .007% of all miscarriages are due to the covid shot!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am quite confident that covid shot miscarriages do not even make the top 15 reasons for a woman moscarrying. Stop playing the hysterical henny penny. Now any death by medication is tragic, but given that only so few are from covid shots in th ebig picture it is small potatoes.
I do not need to show that people seeking to hide under a rock did so because of any particular item that they buried! But when we find results hidden, that shows that they were not children of the light, but of darkness.

Well they were not hidden from the FDA, USAAMRIDD, CDC<NIH and other agencies as well as hospitals and research labs, you are just ticked off because they did not want to release it to the general public. I would think you should be more concerned with the 3,000,000+ deaths from covid itself than just 22 babies. But wait, I know why yo0u aren't 3,000,000 out of 7,500,000,000 people is not a big enough %age number to bother with!
 

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There was no small print. Every body who gets a shot reads a flyer and consents to having read it. It contains all teh info. I know I HAVE READ IT FIVE TIMES NOW.

I don't believe you. They even inserted blank labels in the box for a long while! No one gets the shot having been told 42% or pregnant women have their babies die! Most people consented if at all by faith in the system. Not informed consent.


Well seeing how all pharma manufacturers have ot report to the FDA, CDC, NIH and other reporting agencies all those facts, it was not all that hidden.
If a study hides the results how is it you claim they reported them?? The FDA and other agencies have lost credibility in case that is news to you. When they approve shots for young children, for example, many people see the fangs behind the sheep's clothing.

All medicines can be deadly to someone, should we ban all medicines because people die from such benign things as Tylenol and aspirin also?

The experimental shots are not aspirin. This study covered up a huge percentage of death. It also tinkers with the immune system and the way humans respond. You can't hide behind the skirt of aspirin. With the criminal cases that went on with opiates and etc etc the companies also cannot be waved in as healty honest and trustworthy riding on the back of old drugs that may do some good.
And they showed the potential problems like all other medicines do. If people choose not to read it, sorry but that is on them and not the manufacturers. You are excusing personal irresponsibility.

How do they show anything when covered up?
I have seen those same doctors and read their reports- quacks all!
So you dictate who are quacks or honest now? Your opinion is not the be all end all.


Look up even on wiki the covid virus and see the spike protein! The end looks like a crown (hence the name corona) because it is the crown end that attaches to teh host cell and pumps virus genes into the host- it does not tear up arteries or veins- that has long been debunked as untruthful conspiracy theory.

Who said it tears up stuff? What sort of dishonest strawman is that? Have you ANY vested interest in this at all?

As for clotting- I gave you the complete ingredient list for the pfizer vaccine- show me what will cause blood clotting in anyone.

Many doctors say it does. I am not here to show you stuff. I am pointing out that menay qualified medical people strongly warn against it. That seems to outrank you. The study that was buried also shows that something is very dark and dirty. Sorry if it smells like a rose you you.


So you do consider doctors, nurses, research specialists, CCDC,NIH, USAAMRIID, drug companies and drug stores to be known liars! OK then have a nice time in your medicine free world!

Unless they demonstrate otherwise of course I consider that they may not be honest. The days of blind trust have long gone. When study results are hidden, how would anyone NOT see what is going on?


And every year in America there are over 500,000 miscarriages! so 3,500 out of 500,000 equals: .007% of all miscarriages are due to the covid shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you checked how many happen at the age of the study test group and how far along in the term they were etc etc? For example if most of the women were already say, 17 weeks pregnant, and most of the stats you cite are in the first 20 weeks, that would grossly affect the true stats. Neither of us know all that. We do know a study with a high number of deaths was covered up. That is wicked.


Well they were not hidden from the FDA, USAAMRIDD, CDC<NIH and other agencies as well as hospitals and research labs, you are just ticked off because they did not want to release it to the general public.
Nor did they want to hold the companies libel for side effects. The FDA and CDC as far as I am concerned are not trustworthy, so who cares what was released to them? They hid it from the VICTIMS!!
 
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I love Scripture and you have yet to use any on this thread.

As fo rhis movie- when I can freee an hour I will watchi it. But what does that have to do with the proven fact that Malone was internationally censured by the medical community for spreading lies?

Also what does this video have to do with showing any clinical research Malone did to spout His conclusions?

This is just more you throwing garbage out here to muddy the waters and avoid having to answer direct simple questions or providing simple statements.

But here is an interesting empirical fact for you. According to Bloomberg more than 12.7 billion doses of covid vaccines have been administered.

as of 1/6/22 there were 10,483 deaths attributed to the vaccine. extrapolating that out to now and going globally (using liberal numbers) , That would mean 300,000 deaths globally for 12,700,000,000 doeses administered. In other words your chances of dying from a covid shot is: .0000236% or you have a 99.9999764% chance of living after taking a covid shot! This is called hard evidence gathered by real data and not some nutjob web site or you tube video with faulty data.

The doctors who were banned from Twitter during COVID are the only ones I trust.
 

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The doctors who were banned from Twitter during COVID are the only ones I trust.
I know of many Doctors and such who did not buy into the Nazi Communist line that they were forced to shut their mouths and forced to get the so called Vaccine. or kicked out of a not only just a Job but a Vocation that they dedicated their whole life to such ! Chemist as well ! They all knew it was nonsense !
Thank the Devil for changing the definition on what a Vaccine is 3 weeks before releasing the Covid Jab ! Or how could they pass off such a nonsense Jab.

Their is no real proof that the Covid Jab saved anyone's life or made getting Covid better to deal with. Not to mention what was the Percentage of at risk of being killed by Covid to the average person Non at all !

The whole show was a demonstration of Nazi type of performance over the people in fact.
A demonstration of totally Fear mongering ! Dominating over peoples lives livelihood and destroying small business, setting them up to fail.

The majority really fell for it all hook line and sinker ! After that I truly understood how easy it was for Hitler to come to Power, the majority are fools.
I once had some doubts about how the Jews were taken away on the railway carts to be dealt with ! but I have no doubts at all now as I know how easy it was for the Governments to stop all Doctors from speaking out and threatened them all !
But that's Socialism for you ! Such grubs love to dominate over everyone and anyone who stands up to the likes of them is always the same tactics as Nazi Germany. We see it here in the year 2020's outright ! but the majority are not educated on such a subject to deal with such. So they will be lead to the slaughter so easily.
The majority of Germans did not know or believe what Hitler was doing to the Jews as well.
 

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Their is no real proof that the Covid Jab saved anyone's life or made getting Covid better to deal with.

I know it kept my fiance and I out of the hospital and me probably off a vent. As a moderate to severe asthma sufferer, getting Covid could have been really bad, especially since I ended up with Covid pneumonia. However, it never progressed so far that I needed to be in the hospital.

My fiance has an autoimmune disease. She also had Covid pneumonia. She too didn't have it progress to needing a hospital.

That's two people with pre-existing conditions, one whose lungs are already having issues and two people who were vaccinated and the vaccine kept the virus from progressing to the point where we needed a hospital for intervention.

So, don't say anyone. It worked for me and my fiance. I still thank God for giving men the knowledge to create this vaccine!
 

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I know of many Doctors and such who did not buy into the Nazi Communist line that they were forced to shut their mouths and forced to get the so called Vaccine. or kicked out of a not only just a Job but a Vocation that they dedicated their whole life to such ! Chemist as well ! They all knew it was nonsense !
Thank the Devil for changing the definition on what a Vaccine is 3 weeks before releasing the Covid Jab ! Or how could they pass off such a nonsense Jab.

Their is no real proof that the Covid Jab saved anyone's life or made getting Covid better to deal with. Not to mention what was the Percentage of at risk of being killed by Covid to the average person Non at all !

The whole show was a demonstration of Nazi type of performance over the people in fact.
A demonstration of totally Fear mongering ! Dominating over peoples lives livelihood and destroying small business, setting them up to fail.

The majority really fell for it all hook line and sinker ! After that I truly understood how easy it was for Hitler to come to Power, the majority are fools.
I once had some doubts about how the Jews were taken away on the railway carts to be dealt with ! but I have no doubts at all now as I know how easy it was for the Governments to stop all Doctors from speaking out and threatened them all !
But that's Socialism for you ! Such grubs love to dominate over everyone and anyone who stands up to the likes of them is always the same tactics as Nazi Germany. We see it here in the year 2020's outright ! but the majority are not educated on such a subject to deal with such. So they will be lead to the slaughter so easily.
The majority of Germans did not know or believe what Hitler was doing to the Jews as well.

You and I are on the same page. I'm sure many laughed at the Germans who knew better and spoke out. And those same Germans who were laughing found themselves later in shock as they loaded themselves in rail road boxcars.
 
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You and I are on the same page. I'm sure many laughed at the Germans who knew better and spoke out. And those same Germans who were laughing found themselves later in shock as they loaded themselves in rail road boxcars.

There is a huge difference between the two events. If what happened in WWII was happening today, you better believe that I wouldn't go along with it.

My fiance felt it was in our best interest to get the Covid vaccine. With our health conditions (through no fault of our own) it was imperative that we protected ourselves and it is good that we did.
 

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Bottom line: Big Pharma gets filthy rich whether they save lives or kill people. Flip a coin. Personally, I trust myself to get healthy rather than Big Pharma that runs the FDA so they can approve their own LETHAL drugs.
 
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