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That's too bad! I was hoping they'd be less dangerous for being smaller.
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Yeah I would have thought they would have worked that problem out already. But selling these dangerous batteries to the public they should be arrested if they haven't shut down their operation.
And there should be arrests in the COVID coverup.
I'm shocked and it really goes to show that the gov is turning their heads to evil works.
I remember from my engineering student days being taught that a battery must have the same "load" internally as the electrical load it is supplying to be efficient. That means that if the bike has a 800 w motor with which to power the bike, then the battery experiences becoming a 800 w heater. The higher the energy density the battery has, the smaller the battery is and so the 800 w's will heat up the battery to higher temperatures faster the smaller the battery is.
It is just a law of physics that EV vehicles cannot overcome easily.
It is just a law of physics that EV vehicles cannot overcome easily.
BeyondET
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Hmm interesting, oddly enough EV cars are far more safer in accidents than gas cars, EV cars are less likely to catch fire
Rockerduck
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I have an E-bike and doesn't overheat...yet. The frame is aluminum and is the heat sink for the battery. Consider most e-bike weight from 70lbs to 120 pounds, I'm more surprised there aren't more accidents. They are motor cycles.
Incorrect. EV cars proved to be violatile in the flood waters during hurricane Ian ...They can't get wet ...That invites issues as rain and what happens to the EV. Accidents yes, daily use and charging? NO! The fire is far more lethal then regular fires and Fire Departments need special training on how to deal with and control the fire that results. May be safer in an accident ....far more lethal just sitting still. EV car ranges drastically decline in cold weather. The Pickup trucks have huge issues in towing. I've been in the Siemens and GE battery research facilities in a vain attempt to solve these problems for them. Nothing we manufactured to protect power plants or substation transformers could be used to solve the problems ...... This supposed solution is full of issues and far from ready for prime time consideration. We are destroying the economy over this climate concern and don't have the tools necessary to build a product far more reliant than what exists over the past 100 years of use ......
Amen to that. It is a rediculous operation for anyone to force electric vehicles on the population with current technology. But it's not just rediculous, it's criminal.
The funny part .....the states and Federal Government have not figured out the loss of road use tax revenue that cannot be taxed by selling gasoline. Once that sets in ....the best I can conceive is a software add to the car or truck ....at the end of the year ....tax bill both state and federal commeth ....Most of our software programmers learned their trade as Automobile programmers .....I would sit with them at times when there was a major fault in Generator Protection software packages ....."Guys, this is not an alarm for a door open. This is save or lose a multi million dollar turbine and your house lights out .....
BeyondET
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There was 11 EV in Florida that caught fire. all got damaged or submerged in saltwater. the state is the second largest EV market in the country. EV pickup trucks have far more torque for towing than gas equivalents.
Chevy EV Silverado has 664-hp, 780 lb torque, thats 10,000 pounds of hauling power and up to 1300 pounds of payload in the bed.
EV's are older than gas vehicles, invented in the 1800s,
Because of cheap fossil fuels societies have hampered technology growth. Early electric vehicles and electric power supply inventions was better technology but the cheaper dirtier products won out thus restricted knowledge of electric applications.
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BeyondET
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But driving is a privilege few in the world have, no one has to buy a electric car. I liked when cordless phones came out way better than stretching the cord point being it don't matter technology is going to change.
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Chevy EV Silverado has 664-hp, 780 lb torque, thats 10,000 pounds of hauling power and up to 1300 pounds of payload in the bed.
It may have that capability ....but.....now tell the range with the load .....Chevy doesn't advertise that at all ....It does you no good if your range dives for cellar with a load on board ......Wonder why they don't provide the details on range deduction under load?
False and being proven by the owners, in the field the trucks get half of the range advertized ......toss in cold weather and the EV experience fails miserably ...I'll trust the customer field experience before I trust the sales force. Half of the country oeprates in winter weather .....The EV's belong should be parked in a garage when the weather goes under 55 degrees.
In other words Demented Joe doing 70 in warm weather on a test run ....does not represent near reality. Now hook a trailer and a load ....let's see what actually happens.
My bet is that some believe the claims about Wind Farms, pumping out enough power for 50,000 homes ......That is nameplate IF the turbine sins 100% of the time .....They never do .....and neither can they power 55,000 homes ....
It may have that capability ....but.....now tell the range with the load .....Chevy doesn't advertise that at all ....It does you no good if your range dives for cellar with a load on board ......Wonder why they don't provide the details on range deduction under load?
False and being proven by the owners, in the field the trucks get half of the range advertized ......toss in cold weather and the EV experience fails miserably ...I'll trust the customer field experience before I trust the sales force. Half of the country oeprates in winter weather .....The EV's belong should be parked in a garage when the weather goes under 55 degrees.
In other words Demented Joe doing 70 in warm weather on a test run ....does not represent near reality. Now hook a trailer and a load ....let's see what actually happens.
My bet is that some believe the claims about Wind Farms, pumping out enough power for 50,000 homes ......That is nameplate IF the turbine sins 100% of the time .....They never do .....and neither can they power 55,000 homes ....
I get the sales pitch......Pay attention to what I said earlier....I worked with Siemens and GE Battery Research and Developement trying to resolve the fire issue. Fossil fuels had no affect on that research. Again .....sales pitch based on fraud. They knew these batteries would heat up and catch fire ....Now, load up that truck in warm weather and haul 10,000 lbs....They don't tell you a word about the reduced range of the truck under those conditions. Now drop the temperature from 80 degrees to say 32 degrees ....watch that range drop fast and furious.
These are work trucks. Not Urban Cowboy Saturday Night Dance Hall trucks ......Huge difference ....
Dropship
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New York's as flat as a pancake with no hills so who needs an e-bike anyway, they could pedal an ordinary bike easily enough..:)
BeyondET
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Those companies are fairly new to the scene of EV batteries.
If those companies had such a problem with that, why are they so motivated to produce them. Siemens isn't slowing down or giving up on the idea.
Dropship
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if anybody's got a lung disease like that their best bet is to get out of traffic fume-polluted NY anyway..:)
Every car battery company has a problem ....All car battery designs catch fire ....Sorry to burst the bubble ....Seimens and GE were on the cutting edge of car battery design before the likes of Tesla, Ford, Chevy or anyone else entered the fray ...Major components are constantly researched and designed, then sold as a product in a major introduction of new technolgy. EV's are a new technology for the car guys too.
Not to change the subject, but every Wind Tower has a distribution transformer at it's base ......Seimens, Iberdrola, GE and everyone else in the industry depends on Pauwels Transformer, Seimens, Cooper and GE to provide distribution transformers because they don't have the time or experience to design, test and manufacture. The same holds true with electric car batteries ...
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