The Final Gentile Global Leader.

[Zao is life]

Do you see Satan "sitting in the body of Christ"? That has never seemed right to me.

Much love!

Did Satan enter Judas?

Why do you think the only two men called the son of perdition in the New Testament are Judas Iscariot and the man of sin?

Was Judas one of the Lord's disciples, and a leader - one of the twelve? Do you think he was not a believer who chose to betray Jesus? Was he included in the church until that time, or excluded all along by Jesus?

 

[Zao is life]

Not if your reading the King James Version

Your claim of Antiochus Epiphanies IV in 167BC doesn't fit the description in Daniel 11:37 below, he desired women having a wife and several children

(Daniel) 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

(Daniel) 11:37NIV
37 He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all.

So one sentence that can be interpreted 100 ways means he never got married. OK. But I know it was A4E. It's also written about in the books of the Maccabees (Apocrypha).

 

[Zao is life]

I noticed you did not address the scriptures I posted.

OK next time I'll start with: I disagree. We know from scripture that Antiochus is a TYPE of the man of sin, and ...

Not going to repeat my post, but you're welcome to add it to the top.

 

[Zao is life]

The Final Gentile Global Leader.


We know from scripture where this Leader will arise and what his nationality is. We are also told that he is an Assyrian. Now this is a nationality even today. Andre Agassi, the famous tennis player is of Assyrian descent.


His nationality – Assyrian. (Isa. 31: 8 Micah 5: 5)

The region he comes from – the Ancient Assyrian Empire. (Dan. 11: 35 – 43)

Leader of Ancient Assyrian region - Iraq, Syria & Jordan. (Dan. 7: 8)

Leader of Islamic Federation – 10 kings of Islam. (Dan. 7: 8, Rev. 17: 12)

He rules the world – (Rev. 16: 13 & 14, 19: 19)


Marilyn.

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Micah was prophesying to the Northern kingdom of Israel and the Southern kingdom of Judah about their idolatry and sins, long before 725 B.C when Israel was destroyed by Assyria, about how Israel would be destroyed and Jerusalem would go into captivity in Babylon later, but be restored again.

Typical of the prophets (Isaiah included), Micah introduces a subject (Israel and its idolatry and sins), interrupts it with another, but related subject (Jerusalem and its idolatry and sins), and yet another (Assyria's destruction of the Northern kingdom), and even another (Jerusalem's destruction at the hand of her enemies), and yet another (Judah's restoration from Babylonian captivity), and even another (the coming of the Savior in the far distant future, who will be born in Bethlehem), and another (Israel being scattered among the nations).

He oscillates between the one and the other all along.

All the prophets do this - and they employ simile, metaphor and hyberbole as language style all the way, in-between.

.. and the modern software apps of modern Dispensationalism and Pre-Tribulationism have created for many a magical mouse that can either highlight and drag all these prophecies out of their historical and contextual place into a folder titled "The end of our age and the return of Christ", or simply cut 'n paste the same prophecies into another folder where it does not belong - and the mouse does this all by itself.

It's amazing what can be done with coding and software and apps. Amazing, and those who use the software have created all kinds of virtual reality caves for themselves which they call "Biblical scripture and the prophets".

What's cool though is that their caves don't all look the same (although some do copy others), but most of the virtual-reality 'biblical prophecy' caves they create by cutting prophecies out of their historical context 'n pasting them where they don't belong are different shapes and sizes and different colors with different interior designing. Some appear a lot more "spiritual" than others.

 

[Truth7t7]

So one sentence that can be interpreted 100 ways means he never got married. OK. But I know it was A4E. It's also written about in the books of the Maccabees (Apocrypha).

Amazing what a difference there is between translations?

In the KJV you have a figure that's a Jew who's father's worshipped Jehovah God, and he doesn't desire women

In the NIV you have a figure that has a Pagan heritage, and a God desired by women

Two Completely different outcomes for verse

(Daniel) 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

(Daniel) 11:37NIV
37 He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all.

 

[Zao is life]

Amazing what a difference there is between translations?

In the KJV you have a figure that's a Jew who's father's worshipped Jehovah God, and he doesn't desire women

In the NIV you have a figure that has a Pagan heritage, and a God desired by women

Two Completely different outcomes for verse

(Daniel) 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

(Daniel) 11:37NIV
37 He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all.

Well the KJV doesn't create a Jew who's fathers worshiped God, but a pagan who cruelly prevented the Jews from worshiping God. You need to purchase a non-plagiarized and non-corrupted version of the KJV from a Christian bookstore - bearing in mind that wherever and whenever the original Greek texts disagree with the KJV, all those with a superstitious faith in the KJV will believe that the KJV is the Divinely inspired original text.

 

[No Pre-TB]

bearing in mind that wherever and whenever the original Greek texts disagree with the KJV, all those with a superstitious faith in the KJV will believe that the KJV is the Divinely inspired original text.

Well said!

 

[Truth7t7]

Well the KJV doesn't create a Jew who's fathers worshiped God, but a pagan who cruelly prevented the Jews from worshiping God. You need to purchase a non-plagiarized and non-corrupted version of the KJV from a Christian bookstore - bearing in mind that wherever and whenever the original Greek texts disagree with the KJV, all those with a superstitious faith in the KJV will believe that the KJV is the Divinely inspired original text.

It's pretty simple, the Greek Alexandrian Text Type comes from the Egyptian philosophical school of Clement, Origen, Arius, all of whom were Heretics, that supports modern versions NIV, NASB, RSV, ESV, Etc

Origen is said to have been the writer of the heavily relied upon Sinaticus manuscript, he denied Jesus as being God, and many other heretical things, removing and adding to the original text

The Alexandrian Text accounts for less than 1% of manuscript evidence, and it was localized to Egypt, it wasn't used or received by the early church

 

[Zao is life]

It's pretty simple, the Greek Alexandrian Text Type comes from the Egyptian philosophical school of Clement, Origen, Arius, all of whom are/were Heretics

Origen is said to have been the writer of the heavily relied upon Sinaticus manuscript, he denied Jesus as being God, and many other heretical things, removing and adding to the original text

The Alexandrian Text accounts for less than 1% of manuscript evidence, and it was localized to Egypt, it wasn't used or received by the early church

I appreciate the expert advice. I'm sure so do all textual critics and translators who do their utmost to identify corruptions where they might come up and create reliable translations. They really need your expertise. You should contact some colleges.

 

[amigo de christo]

I partly agree, but not if you link it to "not keeping sabbath". i.e I don't fully agree if you're an SDA or Hebrew Roots "Let's keep the laws of Moses alive and seek to obey the 10 Commandments i.e the letter of the law to be righteous" (instead of "Let's abide in the Vine through faith in Christ because the fruit of the Vine / fruit of the Spirit fulfills all the law, including the sabbath when we rest in Christ").

Come unto me all ye who do labor and are weary and ye shall find REST for your souls .
Its all about faith in the glorious Lord JESUS . But mark these words too , rick warren , nar , seekerfriendly the CC
and a whole pot of others within christedom are decieving the flocks BIG TIME .
They are preaching another jesus . ONe that embraces all paths to GOD as valid . A LIE FROM HELL
and a jesus that embraces SIN and honors sin and preaches a false and deadly sensual love . A love that simply wont correct error
and wont preach all reminders of solid biblical truth either . And way too many folks have bought that lie .
I aint no Sda or this hebrew roots either . ITS THE BIBLICAL JESUS for ME my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

There will be a system the world govy will “own” everything, thus no individual “selling” and there will not be “buying” but rather, a system of “credits”, obey, get nominal credits for “receiving” very basics. Disobey, and “credits” will be deleted, as quick as Trumps votes disappeared! Thus the person is punished for not obeying; ie not working where they say, meeting quotas, speaking against the govt, etc.
“Credits” for water, elec, fuel, food, etc. Bondage! China has implemented some of the credit system already.

They even have climate credit cards now . What that means is
if you try and purchase more than your carbon footprint allows , YE CARD WONT WORK . Talk about a delusion .
They already have sie system of the beast ripe and ready . Even now they could have cut folks out of society
had they enforced the DIGITIAL passport . WE know where its all headed . And its moving fast too my friend .
But we have the LORD and in HE alone is our hope and our salvation . Just march on in the trenches
fearing not man , fear not to suffer for CHRIST , simply embrace the cross and count all loss as only gain for CHRIST .
WE have us a real GOOD WONDERFUL HOME IN CHRIST that awaits the lambs at the end of our faith .
This world is gonna do as its gonna do . Sadly most churches continue to do as they do
But as for the lambs of Christ , WE GONNA DO AS JESUS SAID TO DO . NOw march on IN THE LORD and let the KING BE PRAISED
and THANKED .

 

[amigo de christo]

Sound the trumpets and pound the cymbals , ITS LORD PRAISING and THANKING TIME .

 

[marks]

Did Satan enter Judas?

Why do you think the only two men called the son of perdition in the New Testament are Judas Iscariot and the man of sin?

Was Judas one of the Lord's disciples, and a leader - one of the twelve? Do you think he was not a believer who chose to betray Jesus? Was he included in the church until that time, or excluded all along by Jesus?

That would be a "yes"?

Satan will "sit in the body of Christ". What does that mean to you exactly? Satan will spiritually possess every Christian? I'm not trying to be flippant, I honestly don't understand what that would mean.

But no, Judas was not part of the body of Christ.

Much love!

 

[Zao is life]

That would be a "yes"?

Satan will "sit in the body of Christ". What does that mean to you exactly? Satan will spiritually possess every Christian? I'm not trying to be flippant, I honestly don't understand what that would mean.

But no, Judas was not part of the body of Christ.

Much love!

Judas was part of Christ's flock. He turned betrayer. There is only one man being spoken about in 2 Thessalonians 2 who is also being called the son of perdition in the N.T. You know that (because I already said so to you), and you also know that your question about whether Satan will possess every Christian is indeed flippant because you knew that I spoke about the son of perdition of 2 Thess 2 and compared only that one man with Judas.

Flippancy and pretense at asking 'innocent' questions with implied insinuations that the person you're asking means what you're asking even though you know perfectly well he does not, is the game I've seen you play before (more than once before) - like pretending you don't know what I meant in this case, and insinuating I meant something even though it's obvious I did not.

@marks Go converse with others here if you want to play games. I don't have the time for nonsense.

 

[No Pre-TB]

John's (The Beast) Future Unfulfilled

Revelation 19:19-20KJV
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet

I have a hard time understanding why you think the beast of the sea is a man. Were the previous 3 beasts of the sea men too? If you think so, please identify them and a verse detailing their rising from the sea.

 

[Truth7t7]

I have a hard time understanding why you think the beast of the sea is a man. Were the previous 3 beasts of the sea men too? If you think so, please identify them and a verse detailing their rising from the sea.

It's simple, the beast of the sea seen in Revelation Chapter 13 is described with Personal pronouns He, His, Him, A Human Man

 

[marks]

Judas was part of Christ's flock. He turned betrayer. There is only one man being spoken about in 2 Thessalonians 2 who is also being called the son of perdition in the N.T. You know that (because I already said so to you), and you also know that your question about whether Satan will possess every Christian is indeed flippant because you knew that I spoke about the son of perdition of 2 Thess 2 and compared only that one man with Judas.

Flippancy and pretense at asking 'innocent' questions with implied insinuations that the person you're asking means what you're asking even though you know perfectly well he does not, is the game I've seen you play before (more than once before) - like pretending you don't know what I meant in this case, and insinuating I meant something even though it's obvious I did not.

@marks Go converse with others here if you want to play games. I don't have the time for nonsense.

Actually, I really cannot imagine what it would mean for Satan to "sit in the temple of God", with the "temple of God" meaning "the body of Christ". Those ideas seem so contrary to me, no, I cannot imagine what you would mean with that.

The one idea I had - I know it sounds ridiculous, that's why I said what I said - was what I offered. There were no implied insinuations. I asked a question, if you inferred that, you did that.

But you've turn this from the question to me, rather than answer. OK. But no, I don't actually know what you mean. That's why I ask questions.

Much love!

 

[Marilyn C]

Micah was prophesying to the Northern kingdom of Israel and the Southern kingdom of Judah about their idolatry and sins, long before 725 B.C when Israel was destroyed by Assyria, about how Israel would be destroyed and Jerusalem would go into captivity in Babylon later, but be restored again.

Typical of the prophets (Isaiah included), Micah introduces a subject (Israel and its idolatry and sins), interrupts it with another, but related subject (Jerusalem and its idolatry and sins), and yet another (Assyria's destruction of the Northern kingdom), and even another (Jerusalem's destruction at the hand of her enemies), and yet another (Judah's restoration from Babylonian captivity), and even another (the coming of the Savior in the far distant future, who will be born in Bethlehem), and another (Israel being scattered among the nations).

He oscillates between the one and the other all along.

All the prophets do this - and they employ simile, metaphor and hyberbole as language style all the way, in-between.

.. and the modern software apps of modern Dispensationalism and Pre-Tribulationism have created for many a magical mouse that can either highlight and drag all these prophecies out of their historical and contextual place into a folder titled "The end of our age and the return of Christ", or simply cut 'n paste the same prophecies into another folder where it does not belong - and the mouse does this all by itself.

It's amazing what can be done with coding and software and apps. Amazing, and those who use the software have created all kinds of virtual reality caves for themselves which they call "Biblical scripture and the prophets".

What's cool though is that their caves don't all look the same (although some do copy others), but most of the virtual-reality 'biblical prophecy' caves they create by cutting prophecies out of their historical context 'n pasting them where they don't belong are different shapes and sizes and different colors with different interior designing. Some appear a lot more "spiritual" than others.

Thank you for replying to some of my scriptures. Yes the Assyrians did come into the land of Israel previously however if we read the context of Micah 5 we will see that it refers to the last time the Assyrian will be dealt with.

 

[farouk]

`Be diligent to present yourself approved of God, a worker who does not need to be ASHAMED, rightly dividing the word of truth. But SHUN PROFANE AND VAIN BABBLINGS, for they will increase to more ungodliness. ` (2 Tim. 2: 15 & 16)

@Marilyn C

I'm reminded of this:

"What readest thou, my liege?"
"Words, words, words..." (Shakespeare)

 

[ewq1938]

It's simple, the beast of the sea seen in Revelation Chapter 13 is described with Personal pronouns He, His, Him, A Human Man

That doesn't prove the beast is a man in the slightest. You need to take some courses in Greek.