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I'm of the persuasion that no human that went to heaven and received a glorified body is coming back to us. Sure, Moses and Elijah appeared in glory to Jesus on the Mount of Transfig but no where in Scripture do we see such appearing to us.
No such thing as Heaven going sorry Phoneman.
Elijah was carried to heaven in a fiery chariot, Enoch was "not for God took him", Moses was resurrected, according to Jude, the "many of the bodies of the saints which slept" arose and went to heaven...while the vast majority will only go at the Second Coming, we ought to acknowledge the ones which the Bible plainly says have gone on before us.
We are not told of what happened to these men Phoneman but it was common knowledge of the Jews that men remained in the earth till the resurrection. Acts of the Apostles 2:29 a case in point.
We know Elijah went to heaven in a fiery chariot, and Moses was resurrected - because both appeared to Jesus in the Mount over a thousand years after their Earthly walk, which can be accomplished only in their resurrection, immortal "house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens", never in their "earthly house of this tabernacle" (2 Corinthians 5:1-8 KJV).
No sorry.
Well, since the Orthodox outreach for Judaism claiming the Christians have it wrong, So the Imam's, so the JW's...guess I'll take the bait. Why did Elijah and Moses encourage Jesus before His crucifixion?
Post #6 Who can give an answer? which Enoch111 put up has been the closest to unlocking the meaning of why Moses and Elijah were given to encourage Christ in what he was about to do. I guess, I should ask you if you find it questionable that Jesus would need encouragement? Of course, if you did, then I would suggest your current understanding of Jesus might need expanding. The whole basis of the transfiguration was God encouraging His Son and providing Moses and Elijah was an essential part of that encouragement other than the experience of being glorified if only for a moment in time.
In Malachi 3:3 we see how God uses Silver to teach important lessons to what He will do through His Messenger.
Malachi 3:3 He (Yahweh) will act like a refiner and purifier of silver and will cleanse the Levites and refine them like gold and silver. Then they will offer the Lord a proper offering.
We all need to understand this work of refining the Levites has never been done to this point in 2022. This is an unfulfilled prophecy right here.
Let's be real clear, God used Silver here as its the price of redemption as per Exodus 30:14-16
Many Christians do not understand how these important prophecies will have their fulfillment in end times and as such the question must be asked - how will they take part in them if they are not understood and believed upon? :
If God states He is going to so something - He does it! not as the JW's teach that God moved on from His People and abandons His Promises (Romans 11:1). What we will find is all Scripture will be reconciled and fulfilled as per Isaiah 55:11
We need to spend a little time in this verse - so important!
tbc...
The resurrection is at the end, but God chose to take Elijah to heaven beforehand - where no mortal body can withstand the unveiled glory of God. Elijah would not have survived unless he'd been translated. Also, what body was Moses in when he spoke to Jesus in the Mount, his mortal body that went into the ground or the one "made without hands, eternal in the heavens"? We know Moses was resurrected because Satan was arguing with the Lord over his body, and unless one is so naive to think the dispute was over who would get to stuff it and mount or whether it would be donated to medical science, the only logical reason is that God was about to resurrect him. Therefore, it was in his resurrection body that Moses appeared with Elijah to Jesus.
Elijah never died, so didn't need to be raised.
The evidence says God chose to take them to heaven, as in the case of Enoch, as "trophies" to dangle in the face of Satan as a rebuke.
The fact that Moses appeared and spoke to Jesus is proof positive that he was resurrected because "the living know that they shall die, but the dead know not anything" and "praise not the Lord" and are in a place of "darkness" and "silence" without "wisdom", "knowledge", "devising" of plans, or ability to do anything, according to the overwhelming testimony of the Scriptures.If not - you and I are in trouble
Jesus was...Moses and Elijah had their immortal bodies for reasons already outlined.
You didn't know that before the JWs got involved, it was a common belief among Christianity that Jesus is Michael - the "One Who is as God Who is the ruler of the angels".
A Soul is a person, living or dead - it's not a transparent version of you or me that flies off at death. That's pagan occultism and Hollywood satanism.
I have.
In both cases, the person was human. Moses was dead, and I'm not sure about Joshua whether he was alive or dead - could have been a dispute like that found in Job, who was alive.
Elijah was taken to heaven where he could not have survived unless he'd be granted his immortal, eternal body, period. You know this is true, given God's testimony to Moses.
I can show you where it says Elijah was taken to heaven in a whirlwind - can you show us where he was buried?
They are still yet to be immortalized along with all the faithful - yet to be made perfect!
