The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

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Problem #5. - Believing a set of facts alone while persisting to disobey God does not really change you.

Wrong. Belief after a lack of belief is really change.

While I do believe that a belief alone in our Initial Salvation can change us, I don't believe this to be the case when our faith continues. For I said believing God while persisting to disobey God does not change you. Meaning, if you fall into disobedience with God, your faith alone will not change you. It's like a man who cheats on his wife. If the man believes in his heart that he loves his wife, but he continues to keep cheating on his wife, he really does not love her. His actions prove his faith. If there is disobedience to God it merely shows that one's faith in God is untrue and or they have fallen away from God because of the pleasure of sin. Thus... they are not changed for the better or for good if they disobey God and they just have a belief alone.

 

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I am not in disagreement that we must believe the gospel message in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 for our Initial Salvation, and as a type of thing we need to continue to believe in for salvation. What I am in disagreement with is the Protestant saying that says we are to simply believe on the finished work of the cross for salvation (When in reality it also includes believing in His burial, and resurrection and in the fact that He died for our sins).




In a nutshell, this is your problem....Paul’s Gospel Of 1Cor15:1-4 is what one must Believe to be Saved.....it has Two Parts.....the “FIRST” part is that Jesus “died for your Sins”....You don’t Believe it......You Believe in Satan’s Fantasy Land Of “ Purgatory” ......that place where *YOU” pay for all those sins that somehow the Blood did not cover....

Talk about counting the Blood Of Jesus as something that as “Worthless !!” I could fill a warehouse with your False Catholic “ Doctrine”..... you ADD to the Gospel with your Seven Sacraments, thereby making yourself “ Fallen From Grace” and becoming “Severed from Christ”...... Your Damnable Belief In Purgatory PROVES that you don’t believe Jesus Died for your sins......

If *YOU* are not preaching a “ False and Perverted” so- called Gospel, Nobody is............Paul wrote that if “ ANYBODY” ( even an Angel!) came preaching a gospel that differed from his—- let That man be “ Accursed”, which is a polite way to say “Damned by God”......You, my sin- filled Friend, are on VERY Dangerous ground....You really need to read the Book Of Galatians and pray to God to open your eyes to understand it.....that “ ACCURSED” man mentioned in Gal1:8 ? Its “ YOU!”

The problem is that you fail to discern that Paul was talking about the Mosaic works of the Law like circumcision and not any kind of Law like the Laws of Christ or in following Jesus.

1. Galatians 2:3 says, “But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:”
   
   
2. Galatians 5:2 says, “Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.”
   
   
3. Galatians 5:6 says, “For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.”
   
   
4. Galatians 6:15 (NLT) says, “It doesn't matter whether we have been circumcised or not. What counts is whether we have been transformed into a new creation.”

I tell you what. You find in the context of Galatians of how Paul referred to the Law or the works of the Law as also in reference to the Law of Christ or in following Jesus, and I will give credence to what you have to say. But I know you will not be able to find any such reference in Galatians whereby Paul speaks against even the words of Jesus.

 

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Problem #6. - Jesus came to save us from our sins, and not to just pay the penalty for our sin.

This agrees with Perpetual Belief Alone Salvationism.

No. Not really. Maybe some sin on a certain level, but the complete eradication of sin for a believer is denied by Perpetual Belief Alone Christians. They don't believe verses like 1 Peter 4:1-2, Galatians 5:2, and 2 Corinthians 7:1, etcetera.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Also, the posts that are long also are filled with primarily Scripture verses, and not my thoughts alone. So if you have a problem with my posts that are primarily Scripture, then you have a problem with Scripture and not me (Unless of course you just replied without even realizing that I posted Scripture


Most of us out here “ already HAVE” Bibles.....we don’t need these Giant “ Scripture Walls “ That In all honesty Just get scanned over very quickly....I don’t doubt that you get the occasional “ like”.....we all do......I’m just telling you that you aren’t doing yourself any favors by composing these windy posts....

 

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Problem #7. - It's the wide gate path (“Protestantism / Belief Alone-ism” is the second largest denomination in the world, with 800 million to 1 billion adherents).

Of course you cannot absolutely prove these numbers. Here are more numbers which refute you. Compared to 8 billion people on the planet, 1 billion is a small gate path.

Matthew 7:14 (that talks about the narrow way) is in context to Matthew 7:22-23 where we read about how certain believers who did wonderful works in Christ's name were told to depart from Christ Himself because they also worked iniquity (sin). This is the context because Matthew 7:26-27 says, everyone who hears the sayings of Jesus and does them not is likened to a fool who built his house upon the sand and when a storm came, great was the fall of that house. The analogy is that the believer who does not do what Jesus says will be judged and they will go to hell. So obeying Jesus is the narrow way. Nothing is mentioned in context about unbelievers involving the narrow way.

In fact, Luke 13:24 says, “Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.”

So entering the narrow or straight gate is in context or view to believers because they are seeking to entering in and they are not able to enter in. Unbelievers are not seeking to entering into the Kingdom. Only believers are seeking to enter into God's Kingdom. There are 2.38 Christians in the world. Half of the pie (1 billion or 800 million) is not of the few.

 

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Most of us out here “ already HAVE” Bibles.....we don’t need these Giant “ Scripture Walls “ That In all honesty Just get scanned over very quickly....I don’t doubt that you get the occasional “ like”.....we all do......I’m just telling you that you aren’t doing yourself any favors by composing these windy posts....

Sorry. I have had success in leading people to change their mind about the Word of God with my lengthy postings of Scripture. Why? It was not me that convinced them. It was the Word of God. That's what the Bible does. It changes people.

Jesus said abide in me, and abide in my words.
David said he hid God's Word in his heart so that he may not sin against God.
Jesus words are spirit and they are life.
But according to your words, it gives me the impression that the reading of many Scripture verses in the Bible is a chore or a problem in some way.
But Scripture should be a joy or a delight for Christians to read and study (even if it comes from someone who may be an opponent).

 

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While fruitfulness is not the cause of our salvation (the igniter) because we are Initially Saved by God's grace without works (Ephesians 2:8-9), fruitfulness is about maintaining our salvation and or continuing with God's plan of salvation in the Sanctification of the Spirit (See: 2 Thessalonians 2:13) (Romans 8:13).

Works For Salvation Verses (After We are Saved By God’s Grace):

1. “Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.” (James 2:24).
   
   
2. “Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.” (James 2:17).
   
   
3. 10 “For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: 16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” (Titus 1:10, and Titus 1:16).
   
   
4. “And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.” (Luke 10:25-28).
   
   
5. “And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” (John 5:29).
   
   
6. “For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.” (Romans 11:21-22).
   
   
7. “Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee ? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee ? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” (Matthew 25:34-46).
   
   
8. “In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.” (1 John 3:10).
   
   
9. “Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.” (Matthew 7:24-27).
   
   
10. “I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” (John 15:5-6).
    
    
11. “And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.” (1 Peter 4:18-19).
    
    
12. “Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:” (Hebrews 12:14).
    
    
13. “And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.” (Matthew 3:10).
    
    
14. “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” (1 John 2:4).
    
    
15. “If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing,…” (1 Timothy 6:3-4).

Fruitfulness is about maintaining your Salvation? Way to make it about you. Way to reduce God's Grace to... God handing you a candle as you traverse a pitch black corridor. Way to make Christ's work ineffective. You look at what Christ did and say... "Lord! You didn't fully save me! I have to do the rest of the work according to my will! I'm right behind ya! If I make it to heaven, it'll have to be because of my work in the end! We're doing this together! When you died for my sins, it wasn't for all my sins. It was just for the ones I committed before I knew you!

For this, you logically ought to praise yourself as opposed to Christ.

Have you been fruitful enough? How far did God lower His standards for you?



As for me, I will be saved purely by Christ's blood alone. The Lord will look at me, and all He will see is His perfect Son's blood. That is why I will be saved. Not by anything I did.

 

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That's simply not true. You and the others here have not provided any context that refutes what I actually believe the Bible teaches. You have not explained any verses I put forth to you that refutes your belief.

I can and “will” prove that your “ Take” on many Problem verses are False....it’s just hard to get the initiative when you have done it so many times and you know that it’s a waste of time for your Ilk....as usual, I will do it for the benefit of the precious Newbies that have not been ruined yet by the Legalist and Religionists in here....I am in a lazy mood this evening....be patient....

 

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Problem #8. - It is a lack of faith in what God's Word says involving God's instructions for our life.

How? The Bible says we are not saved by instructions. The law is the schoolmaster which leads to Christ. Christ saves.

Which Law do you think Paul is talking about in Galatians 3 that was a schoolmaster?

Galatians 3:17 NLT
This is what I am trying to say: The agreement God made with Abraham could not be canceled 430 years later when God gave the law to Moses. God would be breaking his promise.

This would be the Law of Moses, and not all Law.
Also, the Bible does teach that we are saved by obeying His instructions.

In fact, Noah obeying God's instructions saved him from the global flood, and that sinful world was an example to all who would live ungodly thereafter (2 Peter 2:5-6).

A belief alone would not have saved Noah from the flood. Noah had to obey his instructions to be saved, just as we have to obey our instructions to be saved.

Acts of the Apostles 3:23 says that any man who does not hear that prophet (i.e. Jesus) shall be destroyed from among the people.

Hebrews 5:9 says that Christ is the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.

John 5:29 says, “And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”

Also try reading Luke 10:25-28. Jesus did not rebuke the lawyer and say for him to just believe in the finished work of the cross (Which is an invented term by Protestants).

 

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well you do not believe the words of Jesus. only the ones which suit you and that you misinterpret.

The gospel is not about godliness, it is about hopelessness and God answer to a fallen world and his salvation. and the answer to mans ungodliness

You got the cart before the horse.. You need to learn Gods standard of righteousness. Strop trying to water down Gods standard so you can appear to convince yourself you have raised above it. You have not. and stop judging those of us who realize this fact. and look to God daily for his grace and help to continue to grow..

This one is a “ Keeper!”......VERY well put!

 

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Which Law do you think Paul is talking about in Galatians 3 that was a schoolmaster?

Galatians 3:17 NLT
This is what I am trying to say: The agreement God made with Abraham could not be canceled 430 years later when God gave the law to Moses. God would be breaking his promise.

This would be the Law of Moses, and not all Law.
Also, the Bible does teach that we are saved by obeying His instructions.

In fact, Noah obeying God's instructions saved him from the global flood, and that sinful world was an example to all who would live ungodly thereafter (2 Peter 2:5-6).

A belief alone would not have saved Noah from the flood. Noah had to obey his instructions to be saved, just as we have to obey our instructions to be saved.

Acts of the Apostles 3:23 says that any man who does not hear that prophet (i.e. Jesus) shall be destroyed from among the people.

Hebrews 5:9 says that Christ is the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.

John 5:29 says, “And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”

Also try reading Luke 10:25-28. Jesus did not rebuke the lawyer and say for him to just believe in the finished work of the cross (Which is an invented term by Protestants).

 

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Fruitfulness is about maintaining your Salvation? Way to make it about you. Way to reduce God's Grace to... God handing you a candle as you traverse a pitch black corridor. Way to make Christ's work ineffective. You look at what Christ did and say... "Lord! You didn't fully save me! I have to do the rest of the work according to my will! I'm right behind ya! If I make it to heaven, it'll have to be because of my work in the end! We're doing this together! When you died for my sins, it wasn't for all my sins. It was just for the ones I committed before I knew you!

For this, you logically ought to praise yourself as opposed to Christ.

Have you been fruitful enough? How far did God lower His standards for you?



As for me, I will be saved purely by Christ's blood alone. The Lord will look at me, and all He will see is His perfect Son's blood. That is why I will be saved. Not by anything I did.

First, you did not deal with the verses I presented.

Second, you talk about the blood in regards to salvation. While it is true that we need to have faith in his blood for salvation (Romans 3:25), we also have to walk in the light in order for the blood of Jesus to cleanse us from all sin, too (1 John 1:7). For if we walk in the light as he is in the light we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin. Walking in the light is loving your brother according to the indirect wording in 1 John 2:9-11. So you have to love your brother in order for the blood to cleanse you, too.

Three, Paul says I have kept the faith. I have run the race. I have fought the good fight (See: 2 Timothy 4:7). He then says therefore there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness (2 Timothy 4:8). Jesus says to the servant who was faithful over a few things, “Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.” (Matthew 25:21). Jesus did not say that they shall enter the joy of their Lord because they believed on the finished work of the cross.

 

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This one is a “ Keeper!”......VERY well put!

But he is using worldly wisdom and not Scripture to explain things.

 

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It is a problem because God cannot do anything that would lead His people into sin.

2 Sam 24:1
And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

1 Chr 21:1
And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

1 Chr 21:8
And David said unto God, I have sinned greatly, because I have done this thing: but now, I beseech thee, do away the iniquity of thy servant; for I have done very foolishly.

God moved David to sin by using Satan. You have an incomplete picture of God's absolute Sovereignty. As a consequence your theology will continuously be underdeveloped. Start with God in your theology, not yourself and what you think He lets you control about yourself.

Dan 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

 

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Many of your problems are sloppy. Especially this one. Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism does not mean someone will not make Jesus the Lord of their life. You are using the logical fallacy of "begging the question"; assuming the worst about what you are attacking.

Believing your works get you to God's Kingdom shows you put your works above Christ's. That is religion of self. Problem #9 is your problem.

Read Luke 10:25-28. Jesus agrees with the lawyer that to love God and to love your neighbor is a part of inheriting eternal life. So if Jesus teaches obedience as a part of entering God's Kingdom, then you are the One who is focused on self (your thoughts) vs. what Jesus says.

 

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Which Law do you think Paul is talking about in Galatians 3 that was a schoolmaster?

Galatians 3:17 NLT
This is what I am trying to say: The agreement God made with Abraham could not be canceled 430 years later when God gave the law to Moses. God would be breaking his promise.

This would be the Law of Moses, and not all Law.
Also, the Bible does teach that we are saved by obeying His instructions.

In fact, Noah obeying God's instructions saved him from the global flood, and that sinful world was an example to all who would live ungodly thereafter (2 Peter 2:5-6).

A belief alone would not have saved Noah from the flood. Noah had to obey his instructions to be saved, just as we have to obey our instructions to be saved.

Acts of the Apostles 3:23 says that any man who does not hear that prophet (i.e. Jesus) shall be destroyed from among the people.

Hebrews 5:9 says that Christ is the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.

John 5:29 says, “And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”

Also try reading Luke 10:25-28. Jesus did not rebuke the lawyer and say for him to just believe in the finished work of the cross (Which is an invented term by Protestants).

Christ was the last prophet under the Law of Moses, He taught the Law, which is obeying and doing.

After His death, burial, and resurrection, He gave a New Covenant to Paul. Paul said that he didn't receive his Gospel from man but directly from Christ.

So it seems to me you are placing Christ to the side when you refuse to take heed to the one (Paul) who Christ gave His entire New Covenant in His Blood!

You think you are following correctly by the words of Christ, but that was under Law.

 

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2 Sam 24:1
And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

1 Chr 21:1
And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

1 Chr 21:8
And David said unto God, I have sinned greatly, because I have done this thing: but now, I beseech thee, do away the iniquity of thy servant; for I have done very foolishly.

God moved David to sin by using Satan. You have an incomplete picture of God's absolute Sovereignty. As a consequence your theology will continuously be underdeveloped. Start with God in your theology, not yourself and what you think He lets you control about yourself.

Dan 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

No.

James 1:13-14 says:
“Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.”

 

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Christ was the last prophet under the Law of Moses, He taught the Law, which is obeying and doing.

After His death, burial, and resurrection, He gave a New Covenant to Paul. Paul said that he didn't receive his Gospel from man but directly from Christ.

So it seems to me you are placing Christ to the side when you refuse to take heed to the one (Paul) who Christ gave His entire New Covenant in His Blood!

You think you are following correctly by the words of Christ, but that was under Law.

No. Jesus was making changes to the Law (even before the New Covenant went officially into effect with His death). For Jesus was primarily teaching New Covenant teachings and not Old Covenant teachings during His earthly ministry.

How so?

Jesus clearly was making changes to the Law (even before the cross):
(Which means He was not teaching primarily Old Covenant, but New Covenant):

The Old Way says:
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth"
(Matthew 5:38 cf. Exodus 21:23-25).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39).


The Old Way says:
"Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment" (Matthew 5:21 cf. Numbers 35:30-32).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." (Matthew 5:22).


The Old Way says:
"Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:" (Matthew 5:34 cf. Numbers 30:1-2, Deuteronomy 23:21).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
34 "But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil." (Matthew 5:34-37).


The Old Way says:
"And of thy mercy cut off mine enemies, and destroy all them that afflict my soul: for I am thy servant." (Psalms 143:12).

"And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent." (Joshua 6:17).

"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword." (Joshua 6:21).

16 "But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee" (Deuteronomy 20:16-17).

"They did not destroy the nations, concerning whom the LORD commanded them" (Psalms 106:34).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" (Matthew 5:44).

Note: Yes, I am aware that the Old Way (Old Testament) also teaches to love one's enemies (Exodus 23:4-5) (Proverbs 25:21), but this was in context to their own Israelite people, and not pagan nations. Pagan nations were to be destroyed when God commanded the Israelites to destroy them. But Jesus taught a radically different way. Love your enemies, and do good to them that hate you, and to pray for those who persecute you.


The Old Way says:
20 "But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel." (Deuteronomy 22:20-22).

4 "They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?" (John 8:4-5).

The New Way (by Jesus) says:
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. " (John 8:7).

 

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Even after the cross, there were changes being made:

The Old Covenant says this about circumcision:
"And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant." (Genesis 17:14).

Yet, the New Covenant says this about circumcision:
"Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing."
(Galatians 5:2).


The Old Covenant says this about the Sabbath:
32 "And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses." (Numbers 15:32-36).

Yet, the New Covenant says this about the Sabbath:
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:" (Colossians 2:16).

So it appears things have changed.

This makes sense because again, Hebrews 7:12 says the Law has changed.

"For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."
(Hebrews 7:12).

“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
(John 1:17).

Jesus said,
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17).

Jesus came not to abolish the Law (in the sense of destroying all forms of Law), but Jesus came to fulfill the Law (i.e. to nail to the cross those ordinances that were against us [like the Old Covenant ceremonial laws], and Jesus came to give us a more fulfilled and perfect way of obeying God via the commands that come directly from Him and His followers). For Jesus offered a more perfect way of loving God, and loving our neighbor (Which of course is only possible via if we are first saved by God's grace through faith).

 

[Rudometkin]

Matthew 7:14 (that talks about the narrow way) is in context to Matthew 7:22-23 where we read about how certain believers who did wonderful works in Christ's name were told to depart from Christ Himself because they also worked iniquity (sin). This is the context because Matthew 7:26-27 says, everyone who hears the sayings of Jesus and does them not is likened to a fool who built his house upon the sand and when a storm came, great was the fall of that house. The analogy is that the believer who does not do what Jesus says will be judged and they will go to hell. So obeying Jesus is the narrow way. Nothing is mentioned in context about unbelievers involving the narrow way.

In fact, Luke 13:24 says, “Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.”

So entering the narrow or straight gate is in context or view to believers because they are seeking to entering in and they are not able to enter in. Unbelievers are not seeking to entering into the Kingdom. Only believers are seeking to enter into God's Kingdom. There are 2.38 Christians in the world. Half of the pie (1 billion or 800 million) is not of the few.

Free will belief is by far the wide gate. Hyper Calvinism is much less common. Might as well suppose Hyper Calvinism is the way.

That looks like a problem for you.