The Sabbath was a Carnal Commandment, Now it is False Law

[robert derrick]

An argument for a Sabbath Commandment today, is that it was a spiritual commandment for strengthening the inner man for the next week of labor. It was commanded solely for the purpose of worship.

This is a pseudo-spiritualizing of a carnal commandment, that had nothing to do with the inner man.

Neither oxen nor land have an inner man to strengthen.

And the inner man is only strengthened by worship of God in the Spirit, which has nothing to do with the physical activity of the body.

The Sabbath commandment was a carnal commandment, i.e. outwardly physical, having to do with working the job only. It had nothing to do with a certain day for worship, since it did not include war, travel, and other daily things in mortal life, including emergencies.

It was first commanded to test the people of Israel, about whether they would obey the Lord in gathering of manna: it was therefore first an outward test of obedience to the letter of the law, The children of Israel had plenty of days to worship the Lord with the newly made worldly sanctuary when not travelling.

And the sons of God in Christ Jesus are to worship the Lord at all times in Spirit and in truth.

This spiritualizing of a carnal commandment seeks to justify it as a law of the Spirit of Christ, rather than only a shadow of Christ to come.

Sabbath commanders are still carnal, and seek justification as by law of their own making.

But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone.

Their Sabbath is spiritual in word and tongue only, not in deed and in truth.

There is no Sabbath commandment for God's people today, neither for their cattle and land, It is now a good principle of Scripture only, along with eating of foods, types of clothings, drinks, and days of physical rest.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

 

[Robert Gwin]

An argument for a Sabbath Commandment today, is that it was a spiritual commandment for strengthening the inner man for the next week of labor. It was commanded solely for the purpose of worship.

This is a pseudo-spiritualizing of a carnal commandment, that had nothing to do with the inner man.

Neither oxen nor land have an inner man to strengthen.

And the inner man is only strengthened by worship of God in the Spirit, which has nothing to do with the physical activity of the body.

The Sabbath commandment was a carnal commandment, i.e. outwardly physical, having to do with working the job only. It had nothing to do with a certain day for worship, since it did not include war, travel, and other daily things in mortal life, including emergencies.

It was first commanded to test the people of Israel, about whether they would obey the Lord in gathering of manna: it was therefore first an outward test of obedience to the letter of the law, The children of Israel had plenty of days to worship the Lord with the newly made worldly sanctuary when not travelling.

And the sons of God in Christ Jesus are to worship the Lord at all times in Spirit and in truth.

This spiritualizing of a carnal commandment seeks to justify it as a law of the Spirit of Christ, rather than only a shadow of Christ to come.

Sabbath commanders are still carnal, and seek justification as by law of their own making.

But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone.

Their Sabbath is spiritual in word and tongue only, not in deed and in truth.

There is no Sabbath commandment for God's people today, neither for their cattle and land, It is now a good principle of Scripture only, along with eating of foods, types of clothings, drinks, and days of physical rest.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

I may owe you an apology Rob, I know we agree on some things, but I didn't think the Sabbath was one of them. It is so easy to confuse what people say here, and posts get confusing on who says them. Oh well, glad to see we are in agreement on this.

 

[quietthinker]

The Sabbath was a Carnal Commandment, Now it is False Law
You'll need to talk to God about that.....he didn't give it to you so you could scrap it!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

An argument for a Sabbath Commandment today, is that it was a spiritual commandment for strengthening the inner man for the next week of labor. It was commanded solely for the purpose of worship.

This is a pseudo-spiritualizing of a carnal commandment, that had nothing to do with the inner man.

<An argument> all your own a pseudo-spiritualizing and carnal commandment, that has nothing to do with the inner man, for the purpose solely of arguing and strengthening your, self-esteem.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

There is no Sabbath commandment for God's people today,

All depending on which god of which people you're talking trash.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

I may owe you an apology Rob, I know we agree on some things, but I didn't think the Sabbath was one of them. It is so easy to confuse what people say here, and posts get confusing on who says them. Oh well, glad to see we are in agreement on this.

ONLY AFTER 4720 AND 4025 POSTS EXCHANGED!~!!

 

[robert derrick]

<An argument> all your own a pseudo-spiritualizing and carnal commandment, that has nothing to do with the inner man, for the purpose solely of arguing and strengthening your, self-esteem.

Non-answer.

All depending on which god of which people you're talking trash.

Non-answer.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

On the contrary robert derrick, the pseduo-spiritualizing arguments come from people who say "Jesus is my Sabbath", "i rest in Jesus", "Jesus fulfilled the Sabbath", and "Jesus nailed the Sabbath to the cross". The Sabbath is not a carnal commandment because Paul explicitly teaches in Rom. 7:14 that the entirety of the Decalogue is spiritual.

It's pretty stupid to argue that the Sabbath is a carnal commandment when it is literally the 1 commandment that God enforced as a sign that someone truly follows Him. That isn't to say that all Sabbath keepers are truly following God, but the people who reject the Sabbath are definitely following a version of God that suits their Burger King Christianity.

 

[robert derrick]

You have no response to points made, therefore they still stand.

The Sabbath is not a carnal commandment because Paul explicitly teaches in Rom. 7:14 that the entirety of the Decalogue is spiritual.

The whole law of Moses is called that of a carnal commandment.

And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

A carnal commandment is simply one requiring outward obedience, such as the 2nd great commandment.

It's pretty stupid to argue that the Sabbath is a carnal commandment when it is literally the 1 commandment that God enforced as a sign that someone truly follows Him.

Circumcision was the first.

Ignorance of Scripture is always the result of believing false doctrine, because it becomes necessary to be ignorant of Scripture, in order to teach a lie as true.

Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

That isn't to say that all Sabbath keepers are truly following God, but the people who reject the Sabbath are definitely following a version of God that suits their Burger King Christianity.

I don't reject the Lord's Sabbath, but I do reject the modern day version of it as a joke, that is filled with exceptions for working on their sabbath, in order to work in a modern industrial and market economy.

If I choose to keep any sabbath, it will be the Lord's only, not a pathetic show of one.

 

[quietthinker]

The whole law of Moses is called that of a carnal commandment.

I suppose the ten are included which ultimately means, God who is all knowing gave carnal commandments so that frail, pathetically limited humans can outwit him and come up with something better....like, dismissing them.

 

[robert derrick]

I suppose the ten are included which ultimately means, God who is all knowing gave carnal commandments so that frail, pathetically limited humans can outwit him and come up with something better....like, dismissing them.

OSAS teaches pathetic self-degradation for humility.

The law of Moses ended at the cross, and the law of Christ began with His resurrection.

If anyone wants to know how the law of God was changed from that written by Moses for the OT, to that written by the apostles of Christ for the New, all they need do is read what is written in Moses, and compare it to what is written by the apostles.

9 of the 10 commandments are written by the apostles, including the greatest first and second ones.

No commandment to keep a sabbath, nor any rebuke for profaning a sabbath is written by the apostles in the doctrine of Christ.

And the modern pseudo sabbath of carnal men, with built in exceptions for working on the sabbath, is a pathetic joke having nothing to do with the Lord's Sabbath of old, nor with Christ who had Moses write it into law.

I dismiss it accordingly.

 

[quietthinker]

OSAS teaches pathetic self-degradation for humility.

The law of Moses ended at the cross, and the law of Christ began with His resurrection.

If anyone wants to know how the law of God was changed from that written by Moses for the OT, to that written by the apostles of Christ for the New, all they need do is read what is written in Moses, and compare it to what is written by the apostles.

9 of the 10 commandments are written by the apostles, including the greatest first and second ones.

No commandment to keep a sabbath, nor any rebuke for profaning a sabbath is written by the apostles in the doctrine of Christ.

And the modern pseudo sabbath of carnal men, with built in exceptions for working on the sabbath, is a pathetic joke having nothing to do with the Lord's Sabbath of old, nor with Christ who had Moses write it into law.

I dismiss it accordingly.

I think you have chip on your shoulder re the Sabbath because you prefer to forget it as opposed to God asking us to remember it.

 

[robert derrick]

I think you have chip on your shoulder re the Sabbath because you prefer to forget it as opposed to God asking us to remember it.

I have no problem remembering the Lord had a Sabbath commanded to His people in the OT. And, according to Ezekiel, He'll be having His sabbath days commanded again for natural born seed of Abraham in Person.

What I do want to forget is this pathetic modern thing called a 'sabbath', with built in exceptions to work on it.

If the Lord's Sabbath were indeed commanded to Christians, then I'd be keeping it, and be spending my time exposing as hypocrites, those who teach exceptions for it, and then rake in Corban cash from it.

The pseudo sabbath played with today is a mockery of the Lord's Sabbath as written in law of Moses.

I have much more respect for the Lord's Sabbath and Scripture as written, then these modern posers preening among themselves on their play-sabbath days.

The chip is on the shoulders of an exception-based Corbanized 'sabbath', that is being exposed, and there's nothing that be done about it, other than repent.

Which obviously isn't happening. So, too bad. God hates lying doctrines against His word of truth.

I hate and abhor lying: but thy law do I love.

Without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

 

[quietthinker]

I have no problem remembering the Lord had a Sabbath commanded to His people in the OT. And, according to Ezekiel, He'll be having His sabbath days commanded again for natural born seed of Abraham in Person.

What I do want to forget is this pathetic modern thing called a 'sabbath', with built in exceptions to work on it.

If the Lord's Sabbath were indeed commanded to Christians, then I'd be keeping it, and be spending my time exposing as hypocrites, those who teach exceptions for it, and then rake in Corban cash from it.

The pseudo sabbath played with today is a mockery of the Lord's Sabbath as written in law of Moses.

I have much more respect for the Lord's Sabbath and Scripture as written, then these modern posers preening among themselves on their play-sabbath days.

The chip is on the shoulders of an exception-based Corbanized 'sabbath', that is being exposed, and there's nothing that be done about it, other than repent.

Which obviously isn't happening. So, too bad. God hates lying doctrines against His word of truth.

I hate and abhor lying: but thy law do I love.

Without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

All your words (posts) do nothing more than confuse the issue under the guise of clarifying it. Your attempts to blame, to point the finger are counterproductive. The Commandment is clear....you are not.

 

[Brakelite]

Interesting. First it was a new cult called Sabbath commanders, now it's another cult of pseudocorbanists. I think that given enough time, Robert will have built us an entire farm of straw scare crows.

 

[robert derrick]

All your words (posts) do nothing more than confuse the issue under the guise of clarifying it. Your attempts to blame, to point the finger are counterproductive. The Commandment is clear....you are not.

Whatever. The Lord's Sabbath was clear, and yours is not the Lord's sabbath.

 

[robert derrick]

Interesting. First it was a new cult called Sabbath commanders, now it's another cult of pseudocorbanists. I think that given enough time, Robert will have built us an entire farm of straw scare crows.

Just keep exposing what sabbath you people keep, and I'll keep writing about it.

And the only objections you have, is that I write about it exactly as you talk about it.

You are not keeping the Lord's sabbath.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

A carnal commandment is simply one requiring outward obedience, such as the 2nd great commandment.

GOD'S commands are to teach man in what, where, and when he DISOBEYS. GOD'S commands are given to BE obeyed because they are NOT obeyed so that man cannot have excuses in what, where, and when he TRANSGRESSES, i.e., rebels against and defies and despises God.

God's Laws do not make righteous, but make guilty and condemn.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

I have no problem remembering the Lord had a Sabbath commanded to His people in the OT. And, according to Ezekiel, He'll be having His sabbath days commanded again for natural born seed of Abraham in Person.

You won't trick a Jew into buying your Zionism. I bet you any time! Jews hate the Lord Jesus' Day HE IS THE LORD OF. Guess which day is that? It is, quote, "the day The Seventh Day Sabbath of the LORD GOD BECAUSE JESUS GAVE THEM REST" throughout Old and, NEW Testaments Hebrews 4:4.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

I may owe you an apology Rob, I know we agree on some things, but I didn't think the Sabbath was one of them. It is so easy to confuse what people say here, and posts get confusing on who says them. Oh well, glad to see we are in agreement on this.

Robert Gwin and Robert Derrick are two utterly frustrated and disappointed former Seventh-day Adventists or and perhaps maybe, at present two Wednesday Crucifixionist Zionists absolutely GREEN with JEALOUSY for the SDA and JEWS and their Sabbath.

I feel I could stake my life on this FINDING about and EXPOSURE of you two as two prime examples of right-wing Sabbatism of the present Christian Church, rebelling against the SINGULAR TRUTH OF JESUS' FULFILMENT OF THE SCRIPTURES' "THREE DAYS":- "ON THE THIRD DAY" of which "CHRIST ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES ROSE".