Why do Catholics adore, worship and deify Mary so much?

[JohnPaul]

All the saints live in Christ . BUT WE DO NOT PRAY TO ANY OF THEM .
PRAY TO GOD in JESUS NAME , all else is blasphemy .

Thank you Friend of Christ.

 

[Dropship]

People have been debating about different translations for centuries, take your pick..:)

Regardless of translation, one should do their due diligence to check the word meanings in their original languages.

Yes, there are many Bible versions around with different translations and they all provide a useful cross-reference..:)

PS- as a matter of interest the JW's believe Jesus was crucified not on a cross but on a stake, because they've translated the word "stauros" as "stake", are they right or wrong?

 

[Philip James]

But the sad thing is these people are misled by priest who have been misled. It's the blind leading the blind, and when, out of love and concern, we try to tell them the truth they just don't want to know because they are afraid of turning their back on the Catholic church because of the repercussions that have been drummed into them. It is Satanic, but they can't see that.

What is Satanic is convincinh people that that which is believed, taught and LIVED, everywhere by all the apostilic communities, is something to be feared..

Pax et Bonum

 

[Dropship]

...You are beIng set up to accept the anti-christ. When he makes the scene your love for truth will be tested...

I'm sure I speak for all Christians when I say the anti-christ won't fool us..:)

 

[Philip James]

I'm sure I speak for all Christians when I say the anti-christ won't fool us..:)

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that the antichrist was coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. Thus we know this is the last hour.

They went out from us, but they were not really of our number; if they had been, they would have remained with us. Their desertion shows that none of them was of our number.

 

[Jim B]

But the sad thing is these people are misled by priest who have been misled. It's the blind leading the blind, and when, out of love and concern, we try to tell them the truth they just don't want to know because they are afraid of turning their back on the Catholic church because of the repercussions that have been drummed into them. It is Satanic, but they can't see that.

Very true!!

 

[Dropship]

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that the antichrist was coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. Thus we know this is the last hour.
They went out from us, but they were not really of our number; if they had been, they would have remained with us. Their desertion shows that none of them was of our number.

Yes every Jesus-rejecter is an antichrist regardless of whether they're fallen christians or other faiths or atheists, the world is full of them like bad apples..:)
Jesus said "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit." (Matthew 7:18)

 

[EloyCraft]

Discernment is a gift of the Holy Spirit and like most of the gifts will be given to us as and when it is necessary.

I'm afraid that you aren't addressing the question. It does concern discernment of the Holy Spirit but not by your particular community of faith alone. Because there are many Communities that claim the Holy Spirit as guide, with as many expressions, how is the truth that the Holy Spirit calls to the Christian mind come to be known without ambiguity?. I have explored this question by means of consensus. By tat means the conclusion is obvious. I haven't asked this question to any one member of a particular faith community..
Does the fact that many claim to have the Holy Spirit as the origin and teacher of their faith, yet teach distinctly different expressions of faith present a concern?
Can the Holy Spirit teach several communities several different faiths in Christ?

 

[Pearl]

Can the Holy Spirit teach several communities several different faiths in Christ?

No. There is only one truth. Many can claim the spirit of God lives within them just as many people claim to be Christians. Whatever we think or say God knows the workings of our minds and hearts and that is what is important - not what we say with our lips but what is in our hearts' and only God knows if our love for Him is real of not.

 

[EloyCraft]

sure I speak for all Christians when I say the anti-christ won't fool us..

Yes every Jesus-rejecter is an antichrist regardless of whether they're fallen christians or other faiths or

Apparently the heightened concern to avoid the mark of the beast has vanished. If the scenario unfolds in the manner I envision, your love of truth will be put to the test.

 

[EloyCraft]

No. There is only one truth. Many can claim the spirit of God lives within them just as many people claim to be Christians. Whatever we think or say God knows the workings of our minds and hearts and that is what is important - not what we say with our lips but what is in our hearts' and only God knows if it's real of not.

That's the consensus. Truth entered time and history but is now lost. No one teaches the infallible truth. In stark contradiction to the famous expression on X-Files the consensus teaches ' The Truth is not out there,";)

 

[EloyCraft]

Btw This Thread opens with not just a lie but a lie that is a sin against truth and neighbor.

I know I couldn't in good conscience misrepresent
Someone's faith. But hey that's me:)

 

[Pearl]

That's the consensus. Truth entered time and history but is now lost. No one teaches the infallible truth. In stark contradiction to the famous expression on X-Files the consensus teaches ' The Truth is not out there,";)

Christians who follow the teaching in the bible with the help of the Helper - the Holy Spirit - can't go far wrong. But it has to be led by the Spirit. It is pointless to follow human teachings.

And to be honest I'm wondering where you are going with this.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

?? Who do you see presenting the prayers of God's people? Nothing?

Pax et Bonum

Nothing to do for sure with deceased human Christians for sure. Roman Catholicism is DESPERATE to preserve its phony "Pray to the saints, and especially to Jesus' Mom" blasphemy. What makes you thing the "Elders" have any relationship to your "Canonized Saints" fantasy??

JESUS TAUGHT (remember Him??) to pray to Father God in Jesus' NAME!!

Why isn't that good enough for you??? DO you actually think His Mother is needed for Him to do the "Right thing"??? BLASPHEMY!!!!

 

[Bob Carabbio]

we do not worship Mary as God and never have.

But by your actions on public display you MOST DEFINITLY DO "Worship your MARY THING" by all the proper definitions of Worship.

 

[Dropship]

The odd thing is that although catholics adore and worship Mary, they're not so keen on having women priests..:)
Wonder which bit of this equality verse they don't like?-
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28 )

 

[EloyCraft]

Christians who follow the teaching in the bible with the help of the Helper - the Holy Spirit - can't go far wrong. But it h

if your Beliefs are adulterated with error from the beginning you can't go anywhere but further from the truth.
That's why infallible teaching from heaven entered time and space. But according to your belief eternity entered time to die. Why bother in that case. Leaves you in Satan's loop of repeated history.

But it has to be led by the Spirit. It is pointless to follow human teachings.

What choice do you have? You have reject all authority over you. We weren't left orphans. But you choose to be.

Nothing to do for sure with deceased human Christians for sure. Roman Catholicism is DESPERATE to preserve its phony "Pray to the saints, and especially to Jesus' Mom" blasphemy. Wha

Don't project your desperate relationship with truth on Catholicism. You behave like people who are possessive and defensive about truth. Too afraid to recognize in places you determine it can't be.
Truth belongs to Catholics we love it wherever it's found. Our respective relationship with truth is revealed by our behavior. Catholics behave like the truth is given to them. You behave like it hasn't.

What makes you thing the "Elders" have any relationship to your "Canonized Saints" fantasy??

Like they say the earthly minded can't grasp the things of heaven.

JESUS TAUGHT (remember Him??) to pray to Father God in Jesus' NAME!!

Another symptom of earth bound thinking. Either or when it's both and. The limitations of a mind that must protest to survive.

Why isn't that good enough for you??? DO you actually think His Mother is needed for Him to do the "Right thing"??? BLASPHEMY!!!!

He found it fitting to need her to bring Salvation to the World.. Change His diapers. Oh and teach the Apostles the deeper Gospel truth she pondered that only a mother could know.. Your hate for her will attempt to take even that from her. Nothing like sacrificing virgins eh?

But by your actions on public display you MOST DEFINITLY DO "Worship your MARY THING" by all the proper definitions of Worship.

You don't read hearts. The arrogance of the ignorant. You can't tell anyone what they worship especially since it would be so much better for you to listen to them rather than pretend they need you to teach.

The odd thing is that although catholics adore and worship Mary, they're not so keen on having women priests..:)
Wonder which bit of this equality verse they don't like?

We know the proper order. Your faith requires that we don't..
Insisting that you know someone's interior life and they don't is the height of disrespect and ignorance. You should be ashamed to do that. I would be.

 

[Dropship]

The odd thing is that although catholics adore and worship Mary, they're not so keen on having women priests..:)
Wonder which bit of this equality verse they don't like?-
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28 )

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We know the proper order. Your faith requires that we don't..
Insisting that you know someone's interior life and they don't is the height of disrespect and ignorance. You should be ashamed to do that..

If by "the proper order" you mean women should take second place to men and can't be priests, it's the naughty step for you catholics..:)
The early Christian sect in Phrygia was led by Montanus and two preachers, Priscilla and Maximilla, and the evangelist Philip had four daughters who were preachers.
And Paul LURVED women-
"I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church in Cenchrea..she has been a great help to many people, including me..
Greet Priscilla , my fellow worker in Christ Jesus, she risked her life for me.
Greet Mary, who worked very hard for you..
Greet Tryphena and Tryphosa and Persis, those women who work hard in the Lord.
Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord, and his mother, who has been a mother to me, too.
Greet Julia.." (Romans ch 16)

And of course Jesus loved them too-

 

[JohnPaul]

The odd thing is that although catholics adore and worship Mary, they're not so keen on having women priests..:)
Wonder which bit of this equality verse they don't like?-
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28 )

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Because they want the men to have all the control.

 

[Enoch111]

The odd thing is that although catholics adore and worship Mary, they're not so keen on having women priests.

Believe it or not but in this particular instance, they are following Scripture. And the Orthodox likewise.