The Insanity of the "right" to have guns!
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CadyandZoe
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The answer you gave here is the reason why I didn't give a direct response to @Jim B or you. As you rightly point out, we are having a discussion about gun rights. During the discussion about the American experience, someone argued that Americans are safe from government tyranny because she has an armed populace.
For the past two years, the NWO (Nazi world order) attempted to inject something into the arms of the entire world under the guise of a world-wide pandemic. If the world were under totalitarian rule the government could have simply gone door-to-door and held a gun to my head. But, as you rightly pointed out, this didn't happen. So then, what was the NWO to do?
The NWO knew that Americans were smart, resourceful, and self-reliant and would not otherwise "get the jab" until after full consideration of both the need and the efficacy of the "cure." It was a question of motivation. The first tactic was fear. The NWO were convinced that although a free people would not voluntarily choose to receive an untested "vaccine" for a disease that had a 99% survival rate, they were convinced that Americans would "take the jab" out of fear of death.
This strategy was a failure. Why? Because Americans had developed alternative sources of information, by which they could learn the facts and the truth of the matter. We learned that the pandemic was a hoax. There was nothing to fear from Covid-19, if one was under the age of 70, and especially if one had access to early applications of vitamin D, vitamin C, Zinc, and one of the following: Ivermectin, Hydroxyc
roquine, or quercetin.Anyway, after fear didn't work. Then government officials began to offer inducements, even offering people a cheese burger in exchange for "getting the jab." This didn't work either. Since neither fear nor bribery motivated Americans to take the so-called "vaccine" the US government (now under the direct control of the NWO after the election of Biden) attempted to force compliance through the loss of a job. Not only were federal employees terminated if they failed to comply, so were airline pilots, military personnel, and so-called first responders, e.g. nurses.
You said, "Was it a tough choice? Sure, but still a choice. Mandates didn't hold a gun to someone's head and say get the vaccine or else." But may I point out that when a man has a gun pointed to his head, he still has a "choice" in the way you are using the term. He can take "the Jab" or suffer the death penalty. It's still his choice right? The point is, the medical decision is not voluntary in either case. In a world where families depend on two incomes, a loss of one income is devastating, leading to bankruptcy, loss of house, loss of the family car, eating unhealthy food, sickness and suicide.
But, even that didn't achieve 100% compliance. The final solution, if you will, is fascism. Doing what Nazi's do best, the NWO has employed fascist techniques, ruling the populace through the corporation.
Now comes the ESG score. In a capitalist system, financing is most essential for big business concerns. The NWO, through the banking system is now enforcing (force) NWO policies. Without capital, big business will go out of business. So, rather than putting the business at risk, the business will enforce the "vaccine mandate." Not only will federal employees lose a job for noncompliance, so will the employees of private concerns under pressure from the NWO bankers.
Next: mark of the beast when ESG scores will effect individual people.
(I appreciate your comments @Enoch111 @JohnPaul @Brakelite @Lambano @Lifelong_sinner Thanks)
Care worker in the U.K. were mandated to get the vaccines, or lose our jobs, also I believe nurses ect in the US were mandated in the same way. Losing your job is a pretty big gun being held to your head !
Our mandated laws were over turned about 6months later …..not sure if that happened in the US , are they still mandated ?
Rita
That is utter rubbish. The various COVID mandates, restrictions, and policies virtually forced people into being vaccinated. All over the world. It is really tiresome when Christians try to defend government tyranny and nonsense. Those were not even vaccines, and those were not even fully FDA approved. But that did not prevent the evildoers from forcing these lethal, toxic, and poisonous injections on people without full disclosure. This was a criminal conspiracy of the highest order, yet not a single person will be prosecuted.
CadyandZoe
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I will answer for me.
I did, as did my fiance and whole family. We have immunocompromised family members and did what we could to minimize their chances of getting Covid. I also have asthma and believe the vaccine did help keep me from developing a severe case if Covid. I did get a mild case of pneumonia but didn't need to go to a hospital. My fiance also has an autoimmune disease and needed to protect her.
I also worked on an ambulance and was around Covid patients on a daily basis. So, other than masking up, I wanted the protection of a vaccine. Now I work in a plasma center with alot of face-to-face interaction. They dropped the requirement to wear a mask a few weeks ago, but I continue to do so.
We have decided not to follow the recommended time frame and will only get a booster once a year.
Lifelong_sinner
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Everyone in my family got their shots but me. I didnt wear a mask. And still went about life as normal.
CadyandZoe
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Sounds like you had good reasons to get vaccinated. Seems to me, all medical decisions should be voluntary, with a rational basis.
I did and do and I also understand why the government did what it did. It did what it thought was best to combat a pandemic. I c will not fault it for that, nor do I see it as anywhere close to tyranny.
That is my opinion and no, no one has to share it with me.
Lifelong_sinner
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pleaseforgiveme
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Contrary to the popular imagination, bearing arms on the frontier was a heavily regulated business
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The “Old West” conjures up all sorts of imagery, but broadly, the term is used to evoke life among the crusty prospectors, threadbare gold panners, madams of brothels, and six-shooter-packing cowboys in small frontier towns – such as Tombstone, Deadwood, Dodge City, or Abilene, to name a few. One other thing these cities had in common: strict gun control laws.
Laws regulating ownership and carry of firearms, apart from the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, were passed at a local level rather than by Congress. “Gun control laws were adopted pretty quickly in these places,” says Winkler. “Most were adopted by municipal governments exercising self-control and self-determination.”
Carrying any kind of weapon, guns, or knives, was not allowed other than outside town borders and inside the home. When visitors left their weapons with a law officer upon entering town, they'd receive a token, like a coat check, which they'd exchange for their guns when leaving town.
The practice was started in Southern states, which were among the first to enact laws against concealed carry of guns and knives, in the early 1800s. -- The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America, points to an 1840 Alabama court that, in upholding its state ban, ruled it was a state's right to regulate where and how a citizen could carry, and that the state constitution's allowance of personal firearms “is not to bear arms upon all occasions and in all places.”
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The “Old West” conjures up all sorts of imagery, but broadly, the term is used to evoke life among the crusty prospectors, threadbare gold panners, madams of brothels, and six-shooter-packing cowboys in small frontier towns – such as Tombstone, Deadwood, Dodge City, or Abilene, to name a few. One other thing these cities had in common: strict gun control laws.
Laws regulating ownership and carry of firearms, apart from the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, were passed at a local level rather than by Congress. “Gun control laws were adopted pretty quickly in these places,” says Winkler. “Most were adopted by municipal governments exercising self-control and self-determination.”
Carrying any kind of weapon, guns, or knives, was not allowed other than outside town borders and inside the home. When visitors left their weapons with a law officer upon entering town, they'd receive a token, like a coat check, which they'd exchange for their guns when leaving town.
The practice was started in Southern states, which were among the first to enact laws against concealed carry of guns and knives, in the early 1800s. -- The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America, points to an 1840 Alabama court that, in upholding its state ban, ruled it was a state's right to regulate where and how a citizen could carry, and that the state constitution's allowance of personal firearms “is not to bear arms upon all occasions and in all places.”
Lifelong_sinner
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pleaseforgiveme
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1The public’s right to bear arms was created by the second amendment.
Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’
Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’
Any persons In public who are caught with a military-style weapon are breaking the law
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Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’
Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’
Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’
Any persons In public who are caught with a military-style weapon are breaking the law
The fine will be six(6)months in jail and and\or $5, million i ]]
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se semiautomatics military design weapon should be fined $1,0000 +15 days in jail/
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Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.’
I am all for the second amendment and own a handgun. However, I am not sure that non-military or non-law enforcement needs an AR-15.
What if the "law" is actually violating the Constitution (which does not precisely spell out the kinds of weapons which are lawful)? There are numerous "laws" which are actually unlawful.
Lifelong_sinner
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wrong!!! The constitution doesnt give us our rights, God gave us our rights. The constitution was written to restrain govt, not the people.
but in case yall commies do try to ban/fine people with weapons, please start with me. :cool:
Lifelong_sinner
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question. Does the govt use AR15s? If so, theres your “need” for civilians to have them.
but last i checked, you dont get to decide what i need.
pleaseforgiveme
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[QUOTE="vvmvmvmvmvmvbnbnbb God is allowing Satan to attack this country on account of our degenerate lifestyles and a lot of "Christians"[/QUOTE]
Sorry puppee
The God I know would never do such a thing,
I am a Christian who has basically read all the verses where the lord was speaking,
Including the Old & new testaments.
Nowhere have I found God saying something bad about humans.
God has given humans clear instructions on how we should live our lives.
God does not judge someone on the grounds of being a [ degenerate lifestyles]
Finally, Satan is a fictitious character
Satan was created by human writers.
Sorry puppee
The God I know would never do such a thing,
I am a Christian who has basically read all the verses where the lord was speaking,
Including the Old & new testaments.
Nowhere have I found God saying something bad about humans.
God has given humans clear instructions on how we should live our lives.
God does not judge someone on the grounds of being a [ degenerate lifestyles]
Finally, Satan is a fictitious character
Satan was created by human writers.
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