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@GodsGrace Oh I'm all for history also....
(I don't hold to the 'development of doctrine' theory, whereby the supposedly assumes to itself the authority to establish new doctrine.
I agree. But this didn't happen till hundreds of years after the ascension. This is my problem with the CC.
On the other hand Christianity was being challenged from the beliefs of the Apostles and those they taught so some rules and explanations had to be established ,,,, thus councils.
At least the first 2 or 3 and then things get messy
,,,as you've stated.
Even the so called Council of Jerusalem was not to set up an authoritative structure for the future, but rather about an issue which arose between two local churches in order to clarify certain issues relating to certain individuals who had been purporting to represent one to the other, and actually were not.
Not really because the whole 'Council' system became no longer about the local issues between two individual local churches and instead became about creating committees, the deliberations of which supposedly became permanently binding on other local churches. Local churches today need to take care that popular conferences and the pronouncements of worthy people do not start to take on an unjustified aura of their own.
Paul to the Ephesians in Acts 20 exhorted the elders there to 'feed the flock of God' locally there in Ephesus over which the Holy Ghost had made them overseers. They were not responsible for local churches elsewhere; men elsewhere were not responsible for the local church at Ephesus.
It's interesting also that in Revelation the lampstands/candlesticks stood on their individual bases, even as the Lord communicated with the local spiritual element there.
Bible Highlighter
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I would also recommend in seeing this Christian movie, as well.
It answers how we are to react to the problems of life as a Christian.
It makes us ask ourselves: What is the most important thing in our life?
Here is the trailer:
You can watch it for free at Amazon Video.
Watch The War Within | Prime Video
There is a scene at the airport with the protagonist and his good Christian friend in the middle of the movie that will help to put into perspective things for us while we are in this dark and fallen world. It’s got some weird sci fi element (fantasy) to it, but if you can get passed that, it is a very emotional and powerful Christian movie.
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I love sci fi.
I think I might have seen this.
Been busy but will report back.
Thanks.
The necessity of evil is that God is good, and God gives man a choice. When man chooses other than God, that is evil.
Evil is the alternative to God. Just like darkness and light. God created Light, and where there isn't light, is darkness.
Much love!
Evil is the alternative to God. Just like darkness and light. God created Light, and where there isn't light, is darkness.
Much love!
Bible Highlighter
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God bless you, sister.
I hope you like both Christian movies and that they are encouraging to you in your faith.
Bob Estey
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Evil is not just pain.
Evil is anything that is not Godly.
Evil could be physical, psychological or natural.
Some believe man makes his own evil.
This is not the meaning of evil in the scriptures.
A hurricane is evil. And all other such natural disasters.
So they cannot be man-made.
Behold
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God allows free will. Free will allows people to perform evil.
If there were no people on this earth, then only the Devil would be performing the Evil, as Evil started with Him, and He , as the "god of this world", created by Temptation and LUST and deception, all the Evil that happens, regarding MAN.
And one more thing..
Jesus said that all unbelievers are "of YOUR Father, the Devil, and the LUSTS (evil) of your Father, you will DO".
So, EVIL is related to the Devil, and Lust is related to the Devil, and people will do the Lusts of their Father, and that is the "world".
The born again, are in the world, but are not supposed to be OF IT, (Like the World) because we have been born again and have a NEW FATHER.
Lambano
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Bob Estey
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I seem to remember a verse where God repented of evil he was going to do. In other words, he was going to cause pain.
You're speaking about the OT.
God revealed Himself in the OT but it would seem that the people of that time understood that
everything that happened was caused by God. We're speaking about 4,000 years ago...the bronze age.
The OT was inspired by God but not written by Him.
Jesus, in the NT, was the last and ultimate revelation of God.
He taught that God is love...1 John 4:8
If God IS love, then He can do no evil.
Woe our fate if God can cause evil.
Who would worship such a God?
There is one verse in Isaiah that states that God causes evil...or calamity.
Isaiah 45:7
I'd say that God withdrawing Himself from a situation would certainly create calamity.
But He cannot cause calamity in the way we would understand that simple sentence.
Bob Estey
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Bob Estey
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It depends on what you mean by evil. I define evil as "pain," so yes, if I need to be disciplined, the Lord will do that.
Evil DOES NOT MEAN PAIN.
Why do we make up our very own definitions?
EVIL in the bible, which you do not discount, means anything bad.
The following is a good description of evil... which can be moral, or physical.
What is the definition of evil? | GotQuestions.org
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