VictoryinJesus
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thank you. I get a headache searching back through. Not because of what has been posted but from my eyes.
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It's okay I knew they were near the start of the thread. There may be other references too somewhere.thank you. I get a headache searching back through. Not because of what has been posted but from my eyes.
It's okay I knew they were near the start of the thread. There may be other references too somewhere.
The grace of Mary or Jesus?
Is Mary divinity to a Catholic?
Im not sure how to consider the throne of God without considering the highest seats parable. As they argued over who would sit at his left hand and on His right? For example when called go to the lowest seat? This makes me think of the woman who glorifies herself and says she is no widow but sets a queen. Also Luke 20:42-47 And David himself said in the book of Psalms, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, [43] Till I make your enemies your footstool. [44] David therefore calls him Lord, how is he then his son? [45] Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples, [46] Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts; [47] Which devour widows' houses, and for a show make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.
Jesus Christ is Divine and the source of all grace not Mary!
but all graces come to us thru Mary!
God is on the great white throne with Christ at His right hand!
the throne of grace is Mary’s throne! Lk 1:28 full of grace!
Rev 4:1
After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
that is not the throne of grace!
But God’s throne!
his kingdom ends?
Is Mary a divinity now?get it right pal!
Jesus Christ is Divine and the source of all grace not Mary!
but all graces come to us thru Mary!
God is on the great white throne with Christ at His right hand!
the throne of grace is Mary’s throne! Lk 1:28 full of grace!
Rev 4:1
After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
that is not the throne of grace!
But God’s throne!
No. Definitely not and never was. She was an ordinary girl/woman chosen by God for an extraordinary purpose. Which fulfilled. She is not and never was God's mother. She is not all powerful or divine. Sadly many people are deceived by leaders who teach them differently.Is Mary a divinity now?
I agree with you that God never had a mother. I am not sure if theefaith thinks she is divine, because he prays…”holy Mary mother of God, pray for us sinners….”.No. Definitely not and never was. She was an ordinary girl/woman chosen by God for an extraordinary purpose. Which fulfilled. She is not and never was God's mother. She is not all powerful or divine. Sadly many people are deceived by leaders who teach them differently.
No. Definitely not and never was. She was an ordinary girl/woman chosen by God for an extraordinary purpose. Which fulfilled. She is not and never was God's mother. She is not all powerful or divine. Sadly many people are deceived by leaders who teach them differently.
I agree with you that God never had a mother. I am not sure if theefaith thinks she is divine, because he prays…”holy Mary mother of God, pray for us sinners….”.
That’s a divinity thing.
I used to as a Catholic.Asking Mary to "pray for us sinners..." is delusional. Why would anyone pray to a dead woman instead of to God?
Egad!Here is the infallible leader of this pagan religion worshipping their Satanic Queen!!
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I agree with you that God never had a mother. I am not sure if theefaith thinks she is divine, because he prays…”holy Mary mother of God, pray for us sinners….”.
That’s a divinity thing.
Hello Truther,
Jesus is God!
Mary is Jesus' mother!
You do the math...
There is a lot of references to Asherah. interesting is the connection to a tree planted in the ground, especially with all the verses regarding tree. I’d never heard the name before. I have no idea why it is crossed through.
Asherah
and pl. Asherim in Revised Version, instead of "grove" and "groves" of the Authorized Version. This was the name of a sensual Canaanitish goddess Astarte, the feminine of the Assyrian Ishtar. Its symbol was the stem of a tree deprived of its boughs, and rudely shaped into an image, and planted in the ground. Such religious symbols ("groves") are frequently alluded to in Scripture ( Exodus 34:13 ; Judges 6:25 ; 2 Kings 23:6 ; 1 Kings 16:33 , etc.). These images were also sometimes made of silver or of carved stone ( 2 Kings 21:7 ; "the graven image of Asherah,"
Her Symbol:
In Assyrian asirtu, which appears also under the forms asratu, esreti (plural) and asru, had the further signification of "sanctuary." Originally Asirtu, the wife of Asir, and asirtu, "sanctuary," seem to have had no connection with one another, but the identity in the pronunciation of the two words caused them to be identified in signification, and as the tree-trunk or cone of stone which symbolized Asherah was regarded as a Beth-el or "house of the deity," wherein the goddess was immanent, the word Asirtu, Asherah, came to denote the symbol of the goddess. The trunk of the tree was often provided with branches, and assumed the form of the tree of life. It was as a trunk, however, that it was forbidden to be erected by the side of "the altar of Yahweh" (Deuteronomy 16:21; see Judges 6:25,28,30; 2 Kings 23:6). Accordingly the symbol made for Asherah by his mother was "cut down" by Asa (1 Kings 15:13). So, too, we hear of Asherim or symbols of the goddess being set up on the high places under the shade of a green tree (Jeremiah 17:2; see 2 Kings 17:10). Manasseh introduced one into the temple at Jerusalem (2 Kings 21:3,7).
God's mother?Hello Truther,
Jesus is God!
Mary is Jesus' mother!
You do the math...