Grailhunter
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Inaccuracies within the King James Version of the translation of the Bible. I am going to start with two of the more serious issues….
1. The Comma Johanneum as it is referred to, originated as a common literary explanation or formula for the Trinity. It first appeared in the 3rd century in some of the literature, not the Bible, which debated the oneness concepts of the Trinity. Even though this formula would become very popular, at the time, very few Church Fathers agreed with it.
At some point this short summary of the Trinity made its way into the margin notes of some of the Bibles that were written after the 5th century. Unlike other examples of popular margin notes that made their way into the scriptures, the Comma Johanneum found its way into the verses of the Bible by way of another avenue. After the 6th century, the Byzantines begain to recopy and retranslate the available Greek texts of the New Testament. At this point some of these copies became known as the “Textus Receptus.” It was in some of these that the formula was added and then later included in some of the Bibles. Most notably the King James Version, which relied heavily on these texts. As it happened the Comma Johanneum Addition was much more than a retranslation, or an addition, but rather a replacement of the original scriptures with a popular theological explanation for the Trinity. They kept the verse numbers in sequence so that it would not be as noticeable.
The scriptures involved are 1st John 5:7&8. The original scriptures read as follows... (Quoting 6 through 8, so it can be read in context)
“6. This is the one who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and with the blood. 7. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is the truth. 8. And it is the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.”
This was replaced with what came to be called the Comma Johanneum Addition. Verses 7 and 8 are the added lines.
6: This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7: For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8: And there are three that bear witness in Earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
As one can see there is no chance that these are simply a different translation, but rather a removal of the scriptures and an insertion of a theological statement for an intended purpose. Still and it is important to note, that this corruption of the scriptures occurred centuries before the King James Version, the King James Version just adopted the corruption.
Then here is the list of additions that the KJV bible added, or to be fair the added scriptures in the manuscripts and sources that the KJV used. If you have a NASB, you can follow along and you can still see the additional scriptures, they are just bracketed with side notes that explain that they are not in the older manuscripts. These are verses that do not appear in the earlier tests, and most were added centuries after the canon. The other problem is that the KJV has added non-biblical words that have caused false beliefs…caused them or reinforced existing false beliefs which is a very serious matter because these false beliefs interconnect and cause sin. The non-biblical words are another topic because it is long topic and it deals with the history of them.
2. Isaiah 14:12 Actually reads…How you have fallen from heaven, o star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to earth, you who have weakened the nation.
The Vulgate Latin translation changed this verse and added the word Lucifer as a name for the devil. Then the King James Version adopted it and but in their Bibles. Was this an intent to deceive or just bad research?
The Vulgate and the King James Version re-wrote it and it appears like this.
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
This is incredibly significant! Changing a small thing in the Bible can effect so many things and cause so many false beliefs…what this does is like a can of worms. Can you imagine how many sermons and books and even Bibles that have referenced this name as a name for Satan all over the world for how many centuries? False beliefs are like lies and they multiply, this one causes some serious false beliefs that are shocking to Christians.
Read Chapter 14 and you will see that this chapter is about a powerful Babylonian King, not Satan.
3. Matthew 6:13
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: (For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.) ….This ending to the Lord’s pray does not appear in the older manuscripts texts that have been discovered.
4. Matthew 18:11
For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost…..This verse does not appear in the older manuscripts that have been discovered.
5. Matthew 17:21
“Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting. ” ….This verse does not appear in the older manuscripts that have been discovered.
6. Matthew 23:14
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation….. This verse does not appear in the older manuscripts that have been discovered.
John 8:9
7. 9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more….. These verses do not appear in the older manuscripts that have been discovered.
8. Mark 7:16
If any man have ears to hear, let him hear….. This verse does not appear in the older manuscripts that have been discovered.
9. Mark 9:44 and 46
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. Strange…verse 44 does not appear in older manuscripts but verse 46 does…a duplicate…it is not known why it was added.
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1. The Comma Johanneum as it is referred to, originated as a common literary explanation or formula for the Trinity. It first appeared in the 3rd century in some of the literature, not the Bible, which debated the oneness concepts of the Trinity. Even though this formula would become very popular, at the time, very few Church Fathers agreed with it.
At some point this short summary of the Trinity made its way into the margin notes of some of the Bibles that were written after the 5th century. Unlike other examples of popular margin notes that made their way into the scriptures, the Comma Johanneum found its way into the verses of the Bible by way of another avenue. After the 6th century, the Byzantines begain to recopy and retranslate the available Greek texts of the New Testament. At this point some of these copies became known as the “Textus Receptus.” It was in some of these that the formula was added and then later included in some of the Bibles. Most notably the King James Version, which relied heavily on these texts. As it happened the Comma Johanneum Addition was much more than a retranslation, or an addition, but rather a replacement of the original scriptures with a popular theological explanation for the Trinity. They kept the verse numbers in sequence so that it would not be as noticeable.
The scriptures involved are 1st John 5:7&8. The original scriptures read as follows... (Quoting 6 through 8, so it can be read in context)
“6. This is the one who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and with the blood. 7. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is the truth. 8. And it is the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.”
This was replaced with what came to be called the Comma Johanneum Addition. Verses 7 and 8 are the added lines.
6: This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7: For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8: And there are three that bear witness in Earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
As one can see there is no chance that these are simply a different translation, but rather a removal of the scriptures and an insertion of a theological statement for an intended purpose. Still and it is important to note, that this corruption of the scriptures occurred centuries before the King James Version, the King James Version just adopted the corruption.
Then here is the list of additions that the KJV bible added, or to be fair the added scriptures in the manuscripts and sources that the KJV used. If you have a NASB, you can follow along and you can still see the additional scriptures, they are just bracketed with side notes that explain that they are not in the older manuscripts. These are verses that do not appear in the earlier tests, and most were added centuries after the canon. The other problem is that the KJV has added non-biblical words that have caused false beliefs…caused them or reinforced existing false beliefs which is a very serious matter because these false beliefs interconnect and cause sin. The non-biblical words are another topic because it is long topic and it deals with the history of them.
2. Isaiah 14:12 Actually reads…How you have fallen from heaven, o star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to earth, you who have weakened the nation.
The Vulgate Latin translation changed this verse and added the word Lucifer as a name for the devil. Then the King James Version adopted it and but in their Bibles. Was this an intent to deceive or just bad research?
The Vulgate and the King James Version re-wrote it and it appears like this.
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
This is incredibly significant! Changing a small thing in the Bible can effect so many things and cause so many false beliefs…what this does is like a can of worms. Can you imagine how many sermons and books and even Bibles that have referenced this name as a name for Satan all over the world for how many centuries? False beliefs are like lies and they multiply, this one causes some serious false beliefs that are shocking to Christians.
Read Chapter 14 and you will see that this chapter is about a powerful Babylonian King, not Satan.
3. Matthew 6:13
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: (For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.) ….This ending to the Lord’s pray does not appear in the older manuscripts texts that have been discovered.
4. Matthew 18:11
For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost…..This verse does not appear in the older manuscripts that have been discovered.
5. Matthew 17:21
“Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting. ” ….This verse does not appear in the older manuscripts that have been discovered.
6. Matthew 23:14
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation….. This verse does not appear in the older manuscripts that have been discovered.
John 8:9
7. 9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more….. These verses do not appear in the older manuscripts that have been discovered.
8. Mark 7:16
If any man have ears to hear, let him hear….. This verse does not appear in the older manuscripts that have been discovered.
9. Mark 9:44 and 46
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. Strange…verse 44 does not appear in older manuscripts but verse 46 does…a duplicate…it is not known why it was added.
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