Mary is all powerful!

[theefaith]

Yes, nonsense. You literally look for words, not context, and somehow "tie" those words together. You must be the worst exegete I have ever encountered in my life.

If it has context it “Protestant” if not it’s catholic?

All scripture is inspired says nothing about context

words are truth

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice,

 

[Pearl]

God came to us thru Mary!

we go to God thru Mary!

No @theefaith we do not. We come to God through Jesus and ONLY through Jesus.

John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

it says plainly that these are children of another woman

No it does not you are misinformed.

 

[theefaith]

No @theefaith we do not. We come to God through Jesus and ONLY through Jesus.

John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Jesus is with Mary! Lk 1:28

No it does not you are misinformed.

Brothers and sisters of Jesus?

They are not the children of Mary!

Is 7:14 a virgin shall conceive and bear a son!
(One son, singular)

James is the son of zebedee, and the other James is the son of Alpheus not Joseph!
Matt 10:2-3

In Hebrew culture any close relative can be called brother or sister, lot was called Abraham’s brother but was his nephew.

Gen 12:5 and Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son..

Gen 13:8 And Abram said unto Lot, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdsmen and thy herdsmen; for we are Brothers.

The 12 sons of Jacob are brothers but all are not the children of Leah and all are not the children of Rachel! They had 4 mother’s, These may be brothers but they are simply not the children of One mother and the brothers of Jesus are not the children of Mary!

Jose’s, Simon Salome are children of another Mary!

Mk 15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;

Is Mary the mother of James?
If you mean the Blessed Virgin Mary then no. Her sister-in-law, Mary of Clopas, was the wife of Alphaeus (St. Joseph's brother), and mother of Simon, Joseph, and the apostles Judas Thaddeus, and James (the Less, brother of the Lord): Jesus' cousins.

The "sisters" of Jesus refer to women disciples

Salome, or Mary Salome, was the wife of Zebedee, and mother of apostles John (the beloved), and James (the greater).


Regarding Mat. 13:55 and Mk. 6:3, two of the four "brethren" are James and Judas of Alphaeus (cf. Mat. 10:2-3, Lk. 6:15-16, Act. 1:13). The third, Joseph, is identified in Mk. 15:40 as the brother of James of Alphaeus. The fourth, Simon, is identified in Mat. 13:55 and Mk. 6:3 as the brother of Joseph, James, and Judas of Alphaeus. Therefore, all four are were the sons of Alphaeus, not St. Joseph and the Blessed Virgin Mary.

When Jesus was twelve they went up to Jerusalem, the holy family, Joseph, Mary, and Jesus. Where are the brothers and sisters?

Jesus on the cross gives His mother to John, why? Why not James or a brother? Perhaps the law of Moses requires a mother to be given to the next oldest son? Because he was an only Son!
Only begotten of the Father, only begotten of the Mother.

 

[reformed1689]

If it has context it “Protestant” if not it’s catholic?

All scripture is inspired says nothing about context

words are truth

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice,

Strawman argument. And no, not all catholic teaching is bad. There are some things they stick with Scripture on.

 

[reformed1689]

it says plainly that these are children of another woman

Then they wouldn't be his brother or sister would they? No. There is no basis, other than your crazy church "tradition" that they were from another woman.

 

[reformed1689]

apostolic succession provides apostles until the return of Christ in glory

Not biblical. No such thing as apostolic succession in Scripture.

 

[reformed1689]

who’s throne is heb 4:16?

Not Mary's

 

[theefaith]

Strawman argument. And no, not all catholic teaching is bad. There are some things they stick with Scripture on.

the doctrine of the “Bible alone” is not the rule of faith or source of truth for Christians but Christ and His church! The teaching authority of the apostles acts 2:42

 

[theefaith]

Then they wouldn't be his brother or sister would they? No. There is no basis, other than your crazy church "tradition" that they were from another woman.

Jose’s, Simon Salome are children of another Mary!

Mk 15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;

Is Mary the mother of James?
If you mean the Blessed Virgin Mary then no. Her sister-in-law, Mary of Clopas, was the wife of Alphaeus (St. Joseph's brother), and mother of Simon, Joseph, and the apostles Judas Thaddeus, and James (the Less, brother of the Lord): Jesus' cousins.

just cos it’s says something does not make it absolute

Lk 3:21 Now when all the people were baptized,

we’re all people baptized by JTB?

Matt 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,

all went out to Him?

 

[theefaith]

Then they wouldn't be his brother or sister would they? No. There is no basis, other than your crazy church "tradition" that they were from another woman.

many close relative in the Bible can be called brother even though they are not biological brothers

 

[theefaith]

Not biblical. No such thing as apostolic succession in Scripture.

acts 1:15
Acts 1:20
Acts 1:26

 

[theefaith]

Not Mary's

how do you know?

 

[theefaith]

How do you know what is scripture?

Is Dan 13 scripture?

 

[reformed1689]

how do you know?

Seriously?

 

[reformed1689]

acts 1:15
Acts 1:20
Acts 1:26

Acts 1 does not show apostolic succession. It shows a replacement for Judas. Nothing more. And nobody today would meet the criteria of that replacement.

 

[reformed1689]

many close relative in the Bible can be called brother even though they are not biological brothers

You are grasping straws with this argument. There is no reason to believe that they were not his blood brothers and sisters by the plain reading of the text.

 

[theefaith]

Seriously?

yes!

its not the throne of Jesus

he sits at the right hand of the father on the great white throne!

it’s Mary mother of divine grace!
She’s full of grace! Lk 1:28
She found favor! Lk 1:30
She consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38
She is the mother of our salvation! Lk 2:30

 

[reformed1689]

Jose’s, Simon Salome are children of another Mary!

Mk 15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;

Is Mary the mother of James?
If you mean the Blessed Virgin Mary then no. Her sister-in-law, Mary of Clopas, was the wife of Alphaeus (St. Joseph's brother), and mother of Simon, Joseph, and the apostles Judas Thaddeus, and James (the Less, brother of the Lord): Jesus' cousins.

just cos it’s says something does not make it absolute

Lk 3:21 Now when all the people were baptized,

we’re all people baptized by JTB?

Matt 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,

all went out to Him?

Well at least what I am saying is actually written. Jesus had brothers and sisters. Nowhere does it say Mary remained a virgin after Jesus' birth. It does say that Joseph had relations with her after Jesus birth. You are the one denying Scripture here.

 

[theefaith]

Acts 1 does not show apostolic succession. It shows a replacement for Judas. Nothing more. And nobody today would meet the criteria of that replacement.

he was an apostle

and the successors are the bishops

if a condition for apostle is not possible then it’s not required

 

[reformed1689]

the doctrine of the “Bible alone” is not the rule of faith or source of truth for Christians but Christ and His church! The teaching authority of the apostles acts 2:42

And there are no apostles today. That closed with the end of Revelation. So yes, the Bible IS IN FACT the source of truth and rule of faith for Christians. Not the church.