Bob Carabbio
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Chuckle!! A "Tree" (evil or otherwise) had nothing to do with "the fruit of salvation" at all.
Your theological desperation is showing. Read the Bible and see what it says.
Mary is all powerful!
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Chuckle!! A "Tree" (evil or otherwise) had nothing to do with "the fruit of salvation" at all.
Your theological desperation is showing. Read the Bible and see what it says.
12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars
Nope, not a word of a queen. You made up a whopper again.
12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars
No queenie in heaven here.
Just a woman.
Is your mother your queen or something, making all women, queens?
it is a biblical principle taught by our savior and He knew it would be used to defend Her immaculate purity
if there is good fruit then there must be a good tree
sinner cannot bring forth salvation!
Jim B
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You wrote, "Jesus put his disciples as equals to his mother." That's not what He said.
"While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers." Matthew 12:46-49, NIC
It doesn't say "Pointing to his disciples, he said, “These people are also my mother and my brothers." It plainly says that His disciples are His mother and brothers.
The Bible says what it says, not what you would like it to say.
Queenship of Mary!
Royal line of David:
Lk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luke 1:69
And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
Luke 2:4
And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
A Royal greeting:
Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!
God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!
This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!
In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33
The mother of any king is queen and rules half the kingdom!
The queen mother!
Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.
30 And the angel said to her, Dread thou not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.
Mary is queen in rev 12:1
Crown of twelve stars!
heb 4:16
Mother of divine grace
Mary’s throne: the throne of divine grace!
there is a complete article on the Queenship of Mary in the praise forum under my thread in praise of the kingdom
was David the king?
the house of David is a royal house
you are saying Christ is not king!
you are saying Jesus is not King!
Jesus is king Lk 1:32-23 1 Tim 6:14-16
14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Prove his divinity too
if Jesus is king Mary is queen
only a royal queen can birth a royal king!
Bob Carabbio
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Nope. But for sure Mary, as a normally sinful, but obedient human woman proved to be fully capable of bringing forth THE SON OF GOD!!!
It's only "Catholics" that try to make Mary into something she never was.
This rejection is recent. Mary was much more revered by the original reformers than what is seen here. Here faith in Jesus lacks knowledge and union with Christ. This is the results of a faith that requires another faith to be wrong. Much of it's expression of truth is based on the others error. That is the invincible obstruction.
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Bob Carabbio
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This rejection is recent. Mary was much more revered by the original reformers than what is seen here. Here faith in Jesus lacks knowledge and union with Christ. This is the results of a faith that requires another faith to be wrong. Much of it's expression of truth is based on the others error. That is the invincible obstruction.
ANd probably none of it is actually "BIBLICAL FAITH" (Heb 11:1) at all - just Denominational Theology.
The bible isn't the conduit the Holy Spirit uses for the transmission of faith. Biblical faith is a concept that emerges from an errant understanding of the Word of God. The bible don't make churches. Faith isn't through reading. The Scriptures we're not so useful for making converts or spreading the Gospel as it is for teaching, correction and deeper understanding of the faith.
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