When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

[Truth7t7]

Of course, in John 2 Jesus wasn't talking about a literal temple. But, in Matthew 24 he WAS talking about a literal temple.

We disagree, further debate will be reduntant

 

[Taken]

Right now the world is spiritually blind.

At the Second Coming all that blindness will be lifted.

People keep pointing out how can people who are deceived now be deceived again. It is simply because at the 6th Seal, the Second Coming, all deception is wiped away. No one on earth will be "in the dark". All will see Christ as Prince as the Lamb slain for all mankind.

All will see God on the Great White Throne. Not the event of Revelation 20. Revelation 20 is just the GWT not heaven or earth as they stopped existing for those dead in Revelation 20.

I am talking about all on earth will see exactly where this Throne has always been and earth is the base, the footstool. Not a modern footstool, but the pedestal the base were the feet rest.

Paul mentions this in Titus 2:12-13

"Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;"

This is the point of the Second Coming that is not a Coming. It is an appearance. The Revelation of what we cannot see now in spiritual blindness.

Thanks for your input.

 

[dad]

Exactly. The rapture and Second Coming are one and the same.

If they were what mystery would there be? What makes more sense, having the marriage supper in heaven and then returning to earth to rule, or yo-yoing up then down the same half hour for no apparent reason?

 

[dad]

The last 1,000 year reign of Christ has not started yet.

I did not say the last 1,000 years (1030 - 2030). I said the last 1,000 years of current creation, before the NHNE. (2030 - 3030)

In english when was that?

 

[dad]

Matthew 25 is the start of the Millennium at the Second Coming. It is not 1,000 years after the Second Coming already happened.

Those sheep and goats are not dead souls from sheol. They are living humans out of the Nations. They are brought to Jerusalem to be judged. Christ is their Prince cleaning up the mess here on earth at the Second Coming.

The church was already raptured, now Christ is harvesting the billions of living humanity still on earth.

That can be done when we return from heaven to rule here.

Only Amil believe Matthew 25 is the GWT, because they claim Christ is already separating sheep from goats in the last 1,000 indefinite years. Or at a single instant, after just sitting there.

That doesn't make sense. The end is the end.

Matthew 25 is still the Olivet Discourse about the end. What do you think the end is about?

Matthew 13 says Christ brings the angels with Him at the end for the final harvest. How many Second Comings and final harvests are there?

If we went up to meet Him in the clouds do you consider being seen only by His Bride and being up in the air is a 'return'?

 

[CadyandZoe]

We disagree, further debate will be reduntant

Okay, but so far you haven't given me a good reason to think that Jesus wasn't being literal when he told the disciples that "not one stone would be left upon another", which was literally fulfilled.

 

[Truth7t7]

If they were what mystery would there be? What makes more sense, having the marriage supper in heaven and then returning to earth to rule, or yo-yoing up then down the same half hour for no apparent reason?

Scripture clearly teaches that the time of resurrection and catching up takes place at the Lords return (Then Cometh The End)

There won't be a Millennial Kingdom on this earth, it will be "Dissolved" by the Lords fire in final judgement at his return

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

 

[dad]

This is your own quote:

I know some translations add the "the".




So you went and found a translation that supports your belief system. You should have started with that.

I think we are looking at different verses, not translations.

The Greek text says: coming out of the tribulation the great.

Many are killed early in that time and others later. In the time just before His return to earth no doubt more will be arriving in heaven to join the group. It isn't like there was one day when they all ended up dead.

You still have to prove that the last 2000 years had no tribulation period and only at the end there would be one single point of intense tribulation.

No I don't. The only issue is the period of time in the very end we call the tribulation. Not every trial or trouble anyone in all history every had. That is a canard.

Otherwise you separate the church in Paradise between billions never having tribulation at all, and a minor group at the very end having intense tribulation.

There is a special time in the end unlike any other time ever. God separated that out to prophesy and speak about it. You do not get to conflate all troubles of all time with that special and specific period.

 

[Truth7t7]

I think we are looking at different verses, not translations.

Many are killed early in that time and others later. In the time just before His return to earth no doubt more will be arriving in heaven to join the group. It isn't like there was one day when they all ended up dead.

No I don't. The only issue is the period of time in the very end we call the tribulation. Not every trial or trouble anyone in all history every had. That is a canard.

There is a special time in the end unlike any other time ever. God separated that out to prophesy and speak about it. You do not get to conflate all troubles of all time with that special and specific period.

I Agree, there's a specified time of future great tribulation that will dwarf World War II

Scripture shows it begins as seen in Matthew 24:15 when the future Antichrist makes the Abomination of desolation, as the warning is given to flee Judea/Jerusalem, this causes the GreatTribulation seen in Matthew 24:21

Matthew 24:21KJV
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

 

[dad]

You have only interpretation itself to claim 7 years.

There is a little thing called math. I think a grade eight class could do the math here.
There is a period of time. We can call that T. Half of that time exactly is 3 and a half years (given also in months and days etc to avoid any doubt). So we have this period of time as a known quantity. We can call that Z. (where Z = 42 months). We now have this. T = Z2.

If the Bible gives a length, it is then shortened.

It does not say the length will be shortened. It indicates the length is the shortened time, otherwise all men would die. The length is not given when He mentions the days had to be shortened. Therefore, when we learn what number of days ends up as being the actual number (such as in Rev and Daniel) we know that that time represents the actual shortened time.

Satan's 42 months is not even when the Trumpets and Thunders sound.

I would not harp of trumpets. There are various trumpets and voices like trumpets etc that could be conflated if one hung too much weight on the word trumpet alone. In math terms that is an unknown quantity. You can't arrive at the correct answer using unknowns.

What if the 42 months do not happen at all?

It is impossible that one word fail. Relax.

When Jesus said it was shortened or no one would be saved, why, if all of Adam's flesh and blood had to die physically?

The world will not end when Jesus returns with us. We will rule this world right here. There will still be people and nations etc. What there will not be is demons and Satan and wicked men any more. I also take it that you are stating that there will not be any new life after the 1000 years!?
(mankind) If 'Adam's seed' ceased to exist I guess that would have to be the case? Now you have another issue to defend.

Would that not mean redeemed? If there was no tribulation

No. That would mean God is a liar, so you could forget about promises like salvation also.

 

[Truth7t7]

Okay, but so far you haven't given me a good reason to think that Jesus wasn't being literal when he told the disciples that "not one stone would be left upon another", which was literally fulfilled.

Yes We Disagree

 

[dad]

Scripture clearly teaches that the time of resurrection and catching up takes place at the Lords return (Then Cometh The End)

So what is the end? If His Bride was taken up in the air to heaven with Him, that would not be the end for the world. It would be for us as far as the current world goes.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


When is death and hell cast away forever? At the end of the 1000 years.

There won't be a Millennial Kingdom on this earth, it will be "Dissolved" by the Lords fire in final judgement at his return

We shall rule with Him. That is clear. He returns with His saints. That is clear. He rules for 1000 years and then we see the new earth etc. That is clear.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

The people surrounding the camp of saints at the end of the millenium, you do realize they are His enemies? Guess when they get put down? NOT when He returns to Jerusalem after the tribulation.

 

[Truth7t7]

So what is the end? If His Bride was taken up in the air to heaven with Him, that would not be the end for the world. It would be for us as far as the current world goes.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


When is death and hell cast away forever? At the end of the 1000 years.

We shall rule with Him. That is clear. He returns with His saints. That is clear. He rules for 1000 years and then we see the new earth etc. That is clear.
The people surrounding the camp of saints at the end of the millenium, you do realize they are His enemies? Guess when they get put down? NOT when He returns to Jerusalem after the tribulation.

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[dad]

I Agree, there's a specified time of future great tribulation that will dwarf World War II

Scripture shows it begins as seen in Matthew 24:15 when the future Antichrist makes the Abomination of desolation, as the warning is given to flee Judea/Jerusalem, this causes the GreatTribulation seen in Matthew 24:21

Matthew 24:21KJV
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Right. I can understand people that realize there is that horrible final period of man's rule on earth that was prophesied about. I used to think that there was no pre trib rapture also. I figured that was an easy way out for some churches to think they would miss out on all that bad stuff. Obviously I have changed my opinion, and now feel that the strongest understanding of that time and events is that He first comes for us in the air.
We can agree to disagree. What I do not understand is how some people claim it is all history and not real at all.

 

[dad]

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation
This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

So we should erase all parts that specify there will be the 1000 years?

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

The question is what is the day of the Lord and how long does it last? That we know since we know when it starts and ends and all the things that must happen in that time'

You seem to be obsessing on the word day as if the context here was 24 hours. Since we rule nations in that time and a lot happens, including a new earth and heaven at the end of it, we know the time involved. You think you can fit all that happens in the 'day of the Lord' into afternoon tea?

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Right. Does that sound like the earth below is burnt up already to you??

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

There was great judgment, but the world did not end. Sodom and Gommorah ended!

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

He slays the wicked when He returns. They will of course be punished. All wicked must be.

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

There is a difference between battles in certain areas, and a total destruction of earth.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

The hills in Jerusalem will be greatly affected. A new valley appears near Jerusalem, the mount of Olives separates east to west etc etc. He destroys His enemies. Of course fire is involved. The world will then be ruled by us. A beautiful world. Not the new earth, that is after the 1000 years.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

That was specified as being AFTER the 1000 years.
So whenever you see the word fire or judgment do not imagine this means the whole planet is blown to smithereens. The new earth and heavens and fire that burns the world itself is only at the end of the 1000 years. All other fire is localized.

 

[Truth7t7]

So we should erase all parts that specify there will be the 1000 years?




The question is what is the day of the Lord and how long does it last? That we know since we know when it starts and ends and all the things that must happen in that time'

You seem to be obsessing on the word day as if the context here was 24 hours. Since we rule nations in that time and a lot happens, including a new earth and heaven at the end of it, we know the time involved. You think you can fit all that happens in the 'day of the Lord' into afternoon tea?




Right. Does that sound like the earth below is burnt up already to you??


There was great judgment, but the world did not end. Sodom and Gommorah ended!
He slays the wicked when He returns. They will of course be punished. All wicked must be.

There is a difference between battles in certain areas, and a total destruction of earth.

The hills in Jerusalem will be greatly affected. A new valley appears near Jerusalem, the mount of Olives separates east to west etc etc. He destroys His enemies. Of course fire is involved. The world will then be ruled by us. A beautiful world. Not the new earth, that is after the 1000 years.

That was specified as being AFTER the 1000 years.
So whenever you see the word fire or judgment do not imagine this means the whole planet is blown to smithereens. The new earth and heavens and fire that burns the world itself is only at the end of the 1000 years. All other fire is localized.

Smiles, you talk about how you cant understand those who see the great tribulation taking place over the centuries

Then in the same breath disregard is given to the several scriptures showing the Lords return in fire and final judgement

Then top it off with (The Day Of The Lord) is representing a long period of time, and it's not a literal day :)

Scripture clearly teaches (The Day Of The Lord) is quick like a thief in the night, and that sure dosent represent anything longer than a literal single day

Many will fight tooth and toe nail, trying to establish a Millennial Kingdom on this earth, that's found no place in scripture

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

 

[Truth7t7]

So we should erase all parts that specify there will be the 1000 years?




The question is what is the day of the Lord and how long does it last? That we know since we know when it starts and ends and all the things that must happen in that time'

You seem to be obsessing on the word day as if the context here was 24 hours. Since we rule nations in that time and a lot happens, including a new earth and heaven at the end of it, we know the time involved. You think you can fit all that happens in the 'day of the Lord' into afternoon tea?




Right. Does that sound like the earth below is burnt up already to you??


There was great judgment, but the world did not end. Sodom and Gommorah ended!
He slays the wicked when He returns. They will of course be punished. All wicked must be.

There is a difference between battles in certain areas, and a total destruction of earth.

The hills in Jerusalem will be greatly affected. A new valley appears near Jerusalem, the mount of Olives separates east to west etc etc. He destroys His enemies. Of course fire is involved. The world will then be ruled by us. A beautiful world. Not the new earth, that is after the 1000 years.

That was specified as being AFTER the 1000 years.
So whenever you see the word fire or judgment do not imagine this means the whole planet is blown to smithereens. The new earth and heavens and fire that burns the world itself is only at the end of the 1000 years. All other fire is localized.

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

 

[dad]

Smiles, you talk about how you cant understand those who see the great tribulation taking place over the centuries

Then in the same breath disregard is given to the several scriptures showing the Lords return in fire and final judgement

The Tribulation/last seven years/time of Jacob's trouble/time of trouble/wrath of God is not over centuries. The period where Jesus returns and rules and vanquishes all enemies including death is over centuries. That is what the bible says.

Then top it off with (The Day Of The Lord) is representing a long period of time, and it's not a literal day :)

Look at all that happens in that day. A thousand year reign is one of them. There is no excuse to pretend that all this happens in any other timeframe.

Scripture clearly teaches (The Day Of The Lord) is quick like a thief in the night, and that sure dosent represent anything longer than a literal single day

Comes. Yes. Ends...not in any less time than the things that happen in it take.

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

The heavens pass away at the end of the 1000 years so we know that day includes that.

 

[dad]

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

I was not aware that we knew all the purposes God has?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

No possibility. It says we shall rule and reign with Him for the 1000 years! Look around. That is not happening on earth.

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Whether he is or not doesn't affect the fact that he will be when the 1000 years start!

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Revelation 20:7
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

You are not reigning with Christ now. I kid you not.

Looking at one example of 'the day of the Lord' I see this

Isa
2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

In verse 12 we see it is talking about the day of the Lord.
Isaiah 2:12
For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

If Jesus returned to earth, say, at 3 pm, do you really think all swords on earth would be beaten into plowshares? And if it was all burned up who needs plowshares anyhow? Do you think that by 5 PM that day the world would no longer learn war? Do you think the world would be taught His ways by 6PM that day? Do you think people would be going all over saying come to Jerusalem by 7PM? Do you think His kingdom would be well established by 8PM, and that people would be taught His ways and walking in His paths by 9PM?

 

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Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Luke 21:
[27] And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
[28] And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
[29] And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
[30] When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
[31] So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
[32] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
[33] Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

That does seem to mean the Rapture

Correct. ^ that is not the Rapture.
It’s a warning and revelation and expectation to those who DID NOT accept the Lords Conversion. They are going to go through Gods Tribulation.
LESS THEY TAKE HEED....and become worthy to BE Prepared, BE Accounted to Escape the Wrath of God, Be Converted, Be Risen up off the face of the Earth...ie Raptured.——->

Luke 21:
34] And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
[35] For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
[36] Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
^ AMEN !! ^


What on people ON EARTH DOING WHEN THEY SEE the Son of Man Coming?
Matt 24:
[30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Really? Are you going to be ON earth, look up, see the Son of man coming....
And MOURN?