Justification By Works

[robert derrick]

Christ's doctrine of justification is neither by faith only nor by works only: Christians are imputed righteousness by faith unto good works inwardly and justified by those good works of faith outwardly.

Scripture speaks of imputed righteousness of faith, not of imputed justification by faith.

Trying to equate imputed righteousness of God by faith with justification of God without works is false: justification of God is not the imputed righteousness of God.

The fundamental error of trusting in Scriptures written by Paul, but not trusting in Scriptures written by James, is due to wanting to see a faith-only doctrine from Paul the apostle, and a salvation by works only from James the apostle.

For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

Believing that Scripture does not contradict itself, and that both Paul and James are writing Scriptures from Jesus for His doctrine of justification, the rightly dividing the word of truth is necessary to reconcile the Scriptures written by Paul and James.

1. Paul never says we are justified by faith alone. That is an added word to the Scripture by man.

2. James is saying a definitive Scripture of being justified by works, which is directly contradicting by justification is by faith alone, 'apart from' works.

To the unobjectively reader, this is obvious, but to the subjective reader it is troublesome to the false doctrine of unconditional salvation 'apart from' works, since we cannot be saved by God apart from being justified with God.

The battleground therefore is not the argument of unconditional salvation, nor being saved by faith, but is the doctrine of only being justified by works: we cannot be justified by faith alone, which is never written in Scripture, and apart from works, and directly contradicts Scripture.

Therefore, the real task is to reconcile the apparent contradiction of Scripture written by Paul and James.

 

[robert derrick]

Since justification by works is a rock that cannot be moved, the truth of it being established by three plain witnesses:

Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works.

So then, we must correct the false reading of being justified by faith alone.

Paul the apostle was formerly Saul of Tarsus who excelled in the Jews religion, being blameless in their law, and was wholeheartedly consenting unto the death of Jesus and of Stephen: The Jews Jesus came to proved all their religion and works were not of faith, but of their own minds in the flesh.

And so Paul the apostle was the perfect instrument of correction to rebuke all works without faith, whether of the law or of righteousness.

The fundamental error of the Jews was trusting in the flesh only, and rejecting faith as necessary to inherit the promises made to the fathers: so long as the matters of the flesh in birth, circumcision, and the law were kept, then they would inherit the promises of God, whether they believed in it from the heart or not.

Paul was correcting Israel after the flesh without faith, and James was correcting Christians of faith only without works.

The opposing extremism of trusting in the works of the flesh only, without need of faith, is trusting in faith only without need of works in the flesh.

And so, when reading all the Scriptures of Paul pertaining to justification and works, it is necessary to understand He is only speaking of justification by works apart from faith, not of justification by faith apart from works.

Otherwise, Scriptures of Paul and of James are in fact contradicting one another, as some have concluded and believe:

Therefore, to avoid contradiction of Scripture, we must read all of Paul's doctrine of justification being by faith and not by works only without faith.

We read James in a similar manner of being justified by works of faith and not by faith only without works.

No one has any doubt James was only speaking of those good works of faith we are created unto, and so likewise we must have the same respect of understanding for Paul in condemning justification by works only without faith, which was indeed the great error of the Jews in the OT, and of the Judaizers in the New.

We cannot justified by works only without faith, even as they were not, neither can we be justified by faith only apart from works, because we are justified by works of faith.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

More anti calvinism nonsense.
The 5 solas explain salvation. As i look through them, i dont see a sola for works. But i do see one for faith, sola fide.
From RC Sproul, “Faith has no merit before God. We are justified by faith without the works of the law (Rom. 3:28). We are not saved by good works but are saved for good works (Eph. 2:8–10).”

Sola gratia comes next. Again, RC Sproul says “Theology must be grace-saturated. If we are saved by faith, then we are saved not by works but by grace alone (Rom. 11:6). Grace is God’s generous disposition by which He lavishes us with good things that we do not deserve.”

 

[robert derrick]

More anti calvinism nonsense.
The 5 solas explain salvation. As i look through them, i dont see a sola for works. But i do see one for faith, sola fide.
From RC Sproul, “Faith has no merit before God. We are justified by faith without the works of the law (Rom. 3:28). We are not saved by good works but are saved for good works (Eph. 2:8–10).”

Sola gratia comes next. Again, RC Sproul says “Theology must be grace-saturated. If we are saved by faith, then we are saved not by works but by grace alone (Rom. 11:6). Grace is God’s generous disposition by which He lavishes us with good things that we do not deserve.”

We are justified by faith without the works of the law.

True. We are justified by works of faith, not by works of the law without faith, as noted previously.

Theology must be grace-saturated.

Both having faith and doing God's righteousness are by grace, and so both salvation through faith and justification by works are both by grace.

I.e. faith and works 'saturated' with grace.

 

[robert derrick]

Since we plainly read James' justification by works with faith, then we must also plainly read Paul's justification by faith and not by works without faith.

James:
Was not Abraham our father justified by works with faith?

Ye see then how that by works of faith a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works with faith.

Paul:
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law without faith, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law without faith: for by the works of the law without faith shall no flesh be justified.

For if Abraham were justified by works without faith, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

Otherwise Scripture of Christ's justification written by Paul directly contradict Scripture of Christ's justification written by James.

 

[robert derrick]

What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

If Abraham had a son pertaining to the flesh without believing God for the son, then indeed he would have much to boast of bearing a son past age at 1oo years old.

But, since it was by believing God and accomplished by the Spirit of God, then he had nothing to boast of: He was justified by the works of faith, not by works of the flesh.

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight.

Deeds of the law without faith are works of the flesh that please not God, and so are not justified by God.

Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered up Isaac?

Yes, by works of faith.

Did he have whereof to glory?

No, being justified by works of faith, not of the flesh.

The unbelieving Jews reject faith for their justification, being by works of the flesh only, and the dead Christians reject works for their justification, being by faith alone.

 

[robert derrick]

For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Justification only pertains to the words and deeds of the body.

Justification is not 'imputed' but is judged, whether they be of faith or not.

Justification is not imputed righteousness, but is doing the righteousness of God by faith.

 

[robert derrick]

Justification is judgment of the deeds of the body, whether those deeds are to be justified by faith or to be condemned by unbelief.

Even as judgment, justification is of works, whether they be works of faith or works without faith.

How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?

A clean heart produces clean works of faith, which are justified with God.

For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Doers of the law and word by faith are justified, not hearers with faith only.

 

[robert derrick]

But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

If justification were by faith only, then there would be no need to seek to be justified by Christ.

Therefore, we seek to be justified by Christ by seeking His righteousness first with faith to do His righteousness, and not our own without faith.

Only the doers of His righteousness are justified by Christ.

Sinners and doers of unrighteousness seek to be justified by Christ through faith alone, which is dead, not being the works of His righteousness.

 

[Rudometkin]

If justification were by faith only, then there would be no need to seek to be justified by Christ.

Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: (Romans 3:22)

Salvation is Christ alone. Saved by grace through faith.

 

[robert derrick]

Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: (Romans 3:22)

Salvation is Christ alone. Saved by grace through faith.

When you want to address the topic of the thread on being justified with God by works of faith, then please do.

Salvation is Christ alone.

True, and those who have faith alone have no salvation of Christ, not being justified of Him by works.

There is no salvation of God without being justified by God:

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Faith alone is a salvation that is not justified with God: An unjustified salvation by a dead faith.

 

[robert derrick]

Being justified of Christ by works of His faith is to ensure that the salvation we believe and trust in is indeed Jesus Christ's and not that of another false christ and unjustified salvation.

Them being justified by His works of faith are indeed being saved with His eternal salvation.

Salvation by faith alone is unjustified by Jesus Christ, and so is not His eternal salvation at all.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

The elect believe the Scriptures as written, and so are not decieved by false christs preaching salvation by faith alone with no need of justification by works of faith.

 

[robert derrick]

The just shall live by faith.

Justification is only by living the faith, not just talking about it.

Faith alone are for those that are hearers and talkers only, but only the doers thereof are justified with God.

For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Those who know the law of Christ and do it not are judged by the law of Christ as transgressors of the world, even as them that know not the law.

Faith alone is play pretend Christianity of ungrown children.

 

[robert derrick]

What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

Faith alone cannot save any soul.

Faith alone without works is without profit to save, even as works of the flesh alone:

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Both faith alone and flesh alone profits nothing.

Those who believe His words from the heart do and live them, and are justified by them unto eternal salvation.

 

[robert derrick]

Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Works of faith show the faith.

Faith alone is at best a vain show in the flesh, and in truth nothing to show at all.

OSAS faith alone is the mastery talking a good show only.

Faith alone without works will be a no show in the resurrection of the just, who live by the faith, and not just talk about it.

My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Works of faith show the faith.

Faith alone is at best a vain show in the flesh, and in truth nothing to show at all.

OSAS faith alone is the mastery talking a good show only.

Faith alone without works will be a no show in the resurrection of the just, who live by the faith, and not just talk about it.

My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

With every post you make about OSAS, you prove that you dont understand it. Plus, who in the world are you talking to? You done made like 60 posts of you talking to yourself.:

 

[robert derrick]

Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.

Justification is by works of His righteousness only: not by faith only without works, nor by works only without faith.

Our souls are delivered by our works of His righteousness: we lose our life for His life, and we deliver our soul by His faith and righteousness in this life.

Faith alone without any responsibility for our souls and accountability for our lives one earth is the strong delusion of pompously proud and oh-so-humbly-thankful predestined and prechosen people, who exist only in the carnal minds of men, but not in the righteous kingdom of God.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.

Justification is by works of His righteousness only: not by faith only without works, nor by works only without faith.

Our souls are delivered by our works of His righteousness: we lose our life for His life, and we deliver our soul by His faith and righteousness in this life.

Faith alone without any responsibility for our souls and accountability for our lives one earth is the strong delusion of pompously proud and oh-so-humbly-thankful predestined and prechosen people, who exist only in the carnal minds of men, but not in the righteous kingdom of God.

blah blah blah, im robert derrick and i hate calvinism. Blah blah blah OSAS is of the deceiver. Blah blah blah john calvin was a bad man.

thats what you sound like on every post.

 

[Rudometkin]

Salvation is Christ alone.

True,

So the one who believes on Jesus Christ will be saved. That's all there is to it. It's all in Christ. If you believe on Him, that means you have His Salvation.

Don't try to do any works to be saved, as if Christ isn't good enough. That's rejecting Christ.

1. - Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: (John 11:25)

Our works are a result of the Salvation. Not the other way around.

Salvation isn't by our faith. Salvation isn't by our works. It is by Grace through faith. It's all in Christ.

Everything I receive is in Christ. Christ is my Righteousness. He is my Justification. Do you see? He is my Salvation. Remove Him, and you remove it all. Receive Him, and you receive it all. Believing on Him, you receive these things and all spiritual blessings. He is the only way.

The best you can bring to God is dirty rags.

You either believe on Christ alone with all of His Glory and receive Salvation, or you have no Christ at all.

Christ's precious blood is where it's at. And your work will never amount. I'm simply going to keep clinging to Christ by believing on Him.

 

[Ernest T. Bass]

Justification By Works

Romans 6:17-18 ------- obeyed from the heart >>>>>>>>> justifies/free from sin
James 2:21,24--------- works (obedience to God) >>>>>>> justifies

Both Paul and James agree obedience to God's will justifies, therefore neither would ever CONTRADICT himself by saying faith apart from obedient works (faith alone) justifies