Don’t fool yourself into believing that one party or ideology represents Jesus more than another.

[McFearless]

(Quote McFearless Post #439)
"I’m not even opposed to people who practice gay sex."

Your a liberal that supports and condones homosexuality, that's my observation and opinion

You can scream homosexuality is a disease all you want, scripture teaches otherwise, as Sodom and Gomorrah are Gods voice concerning homosexuality as seen below

2 Peter 2:6KJV
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Romans 1:26-32KJV
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Hate the sin not the sinner.

 

[Naomanos]

Is Gods opinion concerning homosexuality wrong as seen below?

2 Peter 2:6KJV
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Romans 1:26-32KJV
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

I am speaking of your opinion on McFearless.

 

[Naomanos]

(Quote McFearless Post #439)
"I’m not even opposed to people who practice gay sex."

Your a liberal that supports and condones homosexuality, that's my observation and opinion

You can scream homosexuality is a disease all you want, scripture teaches otherwise, as Sodom and Gomorrah are Gods voice concerning homosexuality as seen below

2 Peter 2:6KJV
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Romans 1:26-32KJV
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

I am about to report you for spamming as you just keep repeating the same thing over and over.

You are also calling someone a liberal even though they have told you that they're not. They have said that homosexuality is a sin. Yet, you persist.

 

[Truth7t7]

I am about to report you for spamming as you just keep repeating the same thing over and over.

You are also calling someone a liberal even though they have told you that they're not. They have said that homosexuality is a sin. Yet, you persist.

You support and condone homosexuality as per my observation and opinion, you have openly stated that you do not oppose persons that have gay sex, it's that simple

It is my opinion that your views would be considered "Liberal" and my opinion dosent stand alone

It's my opinion that your views are in opposition to scripture as you have been shown several times

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Heart2Soul]

You support and condone homosexuality as per my observation and opinion, you have openly stated that you do not oppose persons that have gay sex, it's that simple

Let's get back to the topic at hand. Address the topic not the person.

 

[McFearless]

Is Gods opinion concerning homosexuality wrong as seen below?

2 Peter 2:6KJV
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Romans 1:26-32KJV
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

You support and condone homosexuality as per my observation and opinion, you have openly stated that you do not oppose persons that have gay sex, it's that simple

@Naomanos, don’t waste your time on it it’s not worth it.

 

[Truth7t7]

Let's get back to the topic at hand. Address the topic not the person.

Received and accepted

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Heart2Soul]

@Naomanos, don’t waste your time on it it’s not worth it.

Asking the same of you...stick to the topic not the person.

 

[McFearless]

Your a liberal that supports and condones homosexuality, that's my observation and opinion

You can scream homosexuality is a disease all you want, scripture teaches otherwise, as Sodom and Gomorrah is Gods voice concerning homosexuality as seen below

2 Peter 2:6KJV
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Romans 1:26-32KJV
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Now that we are ready to stick to the subject I think it’s good to come back to where your scripture mentioned homosexuality? The word homosexuality is a new word and is not a part of the scripture you are referencing.
Yes, Sinners in Sodom and Gomorrah did all kinds of wicket things. Since then Jesus came and taught us how to love sinners into submitting to him instead of their wicket ways.

1. Do you believe we should evangelize to sinners?

2. Do you believe we should befriend our enemies?

 

[amigo de christo]

Hate the sin not the sinner.

I dont know if you know what i say next . But i am gonna prove what the biblical term of hate truly is .
And that this false non correcting love is just that , its false .
Todays men teach us to overlook sins and just hug them and not to correct them .
But is that love . Well lets see what the GOD of the bible has to say on this matter .
First i will give us johns words . He who hates his brother is a murderer and ye know NO MURDERER has eternal life in them .
NOW for a reminder that is gonna crush the false seeker friendly and false love and unity move .
YE shall not hate you neighbor in your heart , YOU shall in any way reprove , correct him and not allow SIN upon Him .
SEEKER FRIENDLY IS HATE . ITS MURDER for it corrects none .

 

[amigo de christo]

Jesus told the woman who was caught in sin that He wasn't there to condemn her. But He did say, "Go, and sin no more." That is the same as laying down a code of conduct.

Jesus told this to two others as well and he said Go and sin no more lest something EVEN WORSE come upon you .
Exactly sister .

 

[amigo de christo]

How do you feel about disciplining children? Do you have rules, or just let them.do as they please so as not to impose your beliefs?
I'm being serious.

The bible is very clear . It says in provebs he who corrects not , he who spares not the rod , actually hates his own child .
We are witnessing a generation , that though it uses the word love like a parrot on repeat , KNOWS NOT LOVE .
The truth is , that false non correcting love has leavened the churches and it has caused them to now accuse those who do correct
as being haters . WHEN it is they who hate . They claim to be love and tolerant , YET PREACH TRUTH TO THEM
and they will show you TEETH . ITS they who are the most untolerant and unloving .
Satan flipped them . By using his version of love he has caused many to no longer LOVE the pure and holy truth
but to hate and despise those who LOVE the TRUTH and love the soul of the other .
The LOVE that comes from GOD would mirror the LORD . AND HIS LOVE CHASTENS and CORRECTS ALL WHOM HE LOVES
as HE desires none to perish but rather they repent . ITS THE SAME with us dear sister . I Rebuke and correct
cause i desire them to repent and not to perish . YET they see us as the haters . The more we love the less we be loved .
Same with paul . The more abundantely i love you all the less i be loved . CAUSE LOVE CORRECTS .

 

[McFearless]

I dont know if you know what i say next . But i am gonna prove what the biblical term of hate truly is .
And that this false non correcting love is just that , its false .
Todays men teach us to overlook sins and just hug them and not to correct them .
But is that love . Well lets see what the GOD of the bible has to say on this matter .
First i will give us johns words . He who hates his brother is a murderer and ye know NO MURDERER has eternal life in them .
NOW for a reminder that is gonna crush the false seeker friendly and false love and unity move .
YE shall not hate you neighbor in your heart , YOU shall in any way reprove , correct him and not allow SIN upon Him .
SEEKER FRIENDLY IS HATE . ITS MURDER for it corrects none .

There is no problem, in guiding your neighbors and telling him about his sin.
Do you believe that there is another path to salvation than Jesus?

John 16:8-11
8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me;10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.

The overshadowing issue is that people don’t believe in Jesus, not all the surrounding symptoms.

If a homosexual comes to me and tell me that he is a Christian I will also tell him that his actions are sinful, but to scare him away before he even get to know Jesus is simply the devils Job.

 

[amadeus]

We will disagree, the corrupt tree that is thrown into the fire below is the unsaved wicked, we are to be fruit inspectors judging good and evil, it's that simple

Christian's are admonished to be fruit inspectors in judging good and evil as seen below

(YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS)

If somebody comes claiming to be a Christian, and supports murdering the innocent unborn (Abortion) and Homosexuality in (Same Sex Marriage) will you believe them?

"No" their fruits claim otherwise, it's that simple, and that's my opinion

Matthew 7:16-19KJV
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

"Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God." Luke 9:60

If they are already dead and are not interested in Life, leave them alone. However to someone who is dead but hungry and thirsty for God's righteousness then feed them what you have that is good. What is good, but God? Who knows what is good but God? Who can see what inside the fruit that on the outside looks good?

 

[amigo de christo]

There is no problem, in guiding your neighbors and telling him about his sin.
Do you believe that there is another path to salvation than Jesus?

John 16:8-11
8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me;10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.

The overshadowing issue is that people don’t believe in Jesus, not all the surrounding symptoms.

If a homosexual comes to me and tell me that he is a Christian I will also tell him that his actions are sinful, but to scare him away before he even get to know Jesus is simply the devils Job.

The overshadowing issue IS that people dont believe in JESUS , but rather the jesus that churches now preach . the one that accepts sin .
That is the Massive problem of today . Most everyone has heard the name of JESUS and has had some experience with churches
or even read some of the bible , the problem is , that when it comes to sins , the church no longer corrects .
If one comes into the church, that church SHOULD have been preaching sound doctrine , not trying to entertain them with rock concerts
and no doctrine . The friendly seeker churches do the work of darkness and yet know it not .
If they actually preached the bible , folks who entered in , might actually GET CONVICTED and might actually repent and come to THE TRUE JESUS .
But until we stop taking our cues on how to run a church and how to evanglise from this lost age , we doom souls .
Preach Christ . WHEN paul entered into jewish syanongues , HE WASNT TRYING TO FIND COMMON GROUND and UNITY
HE was PREACHING JESUS . WE need to unlearn rick warren and most all of todays modern way to evangelisse
and take our cues from those who really did IN THE BIBLE .

 

[amadeus]

I worry about the venom that is directed by church folk to people they don't agree with, or people who express a differing opinion.

Very often the disagreements are the result of a lack of communication. Sometimes two people speaking English are effectively speaking different languages but there is no interpreter. There really is an Interpreter, but who is both hearing and listening carefully to Him all of the time?

 

[amadeus]

Once had an American girlfriend and I’m European we learn stuff in school.

Many years ago already I saw it getting so bad here in my country, in what was and was not taught in schools, that my wife and I removed our children from the public schools and taught them ourselves at home.

 

[McFearless]

The overshadowing issue IS that people dont believe in JESUS , but rather the jesus that churches now preach . the one that accepts sin .
That is the Massive problem of today . Most everyone has heard the name of JESUS and has had some experience with churches
or even read some of the bible , the problem is , that when it comes to sins , the church no longer corrects .
If one comes into the church, that church SHOULD have been preaching sound doctrine , not trying to entertain them with rock concerts
and no doctrine . The friendly seeker churches do the work of darkness and yet know it not .
If they actually preached the bible , folks who entered in , might actually GET CONVICTED and might actually repent and come to THE TRUE JESUS .
But until we stop taking our cues on how to run a church and how to evanglise from this lost age , we doom souls .
Preach Christ . WHEN paul entered into jewish syanongues , HE WASNT TRYING TO FIND COMMON GROUND and UNITY
HE was PREACHING JESUS . WE need to unlearn rick warren and most all of todays modern way to evangelisse
and take our cues from those who really did IN THE BIBLE .

Nobody is arguing that we shouldn’t preach the gospel or tell people about sin or their wrongful actions. Some people just seem to believe that the only sin there is, gay sex and abortion. The old generation hid their sin behind closed doors while pointing fingers at people who’s sins were out in the open.

We should be honest about who Jesus is, but to pick one sin and selectively make that one worse than any other is only a sign that people are not really confronting the sin in their own lives.

 

[McFearless]

Many years ago already I saw it getting so bad here in my country, in what was and was not taught in schools, that my wife and I removed our children from the public schools and taught them ourselves at home.

Danes are not opposed to taxes, so our public schools are doing very well..

 

[amigo de christo]

Nobody is arguing that we shouldn’t preach the gospel or tell people about sin or their wrongful actions. Some people just seem to believe that the only sin there is, gay sex and abortion. The old generation hid their sin behind closed doors while pointing fingers at people who’s sins were out in the open.

We should be honest about who Jesus is, but to pick one sin and selectively make that one worse than any other is only a sign that people are not really confronting the sin in their own lives.

OH i know my friend .
I know some folks only focus on those main two sins . And yet FOLLOW a dire and grave sin , called the destitute of the truth sin .
THEY LOVE that money and preach that prosperity gospel and yet can still holler gay as sin and abortion as sin
and yet realize not , THEY DESTITUE OF THE TRUTH themselves .
THEN we got the other side which hollers feed , feed , feed the poor , yet they embrace Both homosexuality and abortion .
BOTH SIDES are LONG TANKED MY FRIEND .
I aint one to pick and choose any sin . I warn against all sin . IF one lies , that is a sin and it gets corrected .
IF we heap and steap that money , iwarn against that , and any other sin .
I am not political and i sit not in the nar churches , prosperity churches , nor the liberal ones .
I expose them false leaders . THEY of the devil himself . BOTH SIDES of politics are tanked and so are both churches
who follow said leaders . WE GOTTA GET US BACK TO THE FIRST FAITH and IN THOSE BIBLES ASAP FAST AND ASAP QUICK .Cause
over ninety eight , and that is me being very kind , PERCENT of christendom is TANKED .
ITS bad my friend . its real bad . Let us learn the biblical JESUS For ourselves . NOW that does mean we gonna have to pick a bible UP
and start reading it again for ourselves .