Wow you need some healing from bitterness. It has corrrupted your soul! Jesus never once called the saved former pigs and dogs and weeds and wolves. We are lost sheep, wheat, elect, foreknown and predestined.
the bible has shown that there are weeds in the field of wheat on earth. they were not wheat once and turned to weeds.
the bible shows there are wolves in sheep clothing not wolves who turned to sheep and became wolves again.
Jesus in Matt. 7 told those who looked like Christians but weren't that He NEVER knew them not knew them once but doesn't know them anymore!
JOhn wrote that those that leave were not of us, at any time and proved it by leaving.
And that is the nature of cults and the false sects that believe you can lose your slavation. To them if you have a bad season, you are a dog! OSAS know that a person if truly saved can stumble but God will keep HIm from falling.
Lying about what I believe is unbecoming on you!
Lying again! I have been a teacher of the faith and believer of OSAS for over 47 years, and I have always taught belief and obedience with a passion! Stop lying!
More lies from a bitter heat!
Maybe if you bothered to learn what the bible teaches o OSAS you would not sound like a Pre-K kid trying to explain quantuum physics.
Jesus never once called the saved former pigs and dogs and weeds and wolves.
But you will call the former saved a dog and a pig at the drop of the hat. I suppose it beats grieving over a lost brother or sister of many years. Which I do. I remember their brotherhood without having to call them a pig and dog that was never saved.
We are lost sheep, wheat, elect, foreknown and predestined.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
And so you say for yourself. There is no such thing as lost sheep in the body of Christ. Only in the kingdom of OSAS are there lost sheep that neither believe nor obey, yet are still saved.
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. For your obedience is come abroad unto all men.
Whole lot of obedience pride there in Rome at the time.
They were not wheat once and turned to weeds.
So you say again, but your words show there are definitely weeds and wheat at the same time, such as the 'lost elect'.
Which can be true for a season, but in the end the whole lump must either obey or be castaway as a dead branch altogether.
Told those who looked like Christians
What does a Christian 'look like'? I don't read any Scripture about the Lord talking to 'look-alikes'.
He NEVER knew them not knew them once but doesn't know them anymore
When a name is blotted out of the Lamb's book of Life, then He forgets them completely, even as when He forgot their sins completely to write their new name into His book.
But if the sins take over again and He is put to an open shame, He is no more their sacrifice nor the Lord nor their Savior. He doesn't know them. He only knows them that are His and obey Him unto the end, even as He obeyed our Father unto the cross.
But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
If we forget we were once purged, then He will forget we were once written.
A person if truly saved can stumble but God will keep HIm from falling.
There is no 'truly' saved. Just saved or not.
If we turn to Him to find grace to help in time of need, then He is more than able to keep us from falling. If not, we fall. We have our responsible part to play, if we will have our part in the first resurrection:
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall.
If we do and obey, then we shall never fall. There is no Godly 'If' in the kingdom of OSAS.
"And so, not only does OSAS save them walking after the flesh, it's so secure, it even saves the unbeliever."
Lying about what I believe is unbecoming on you!
Let's see now. According to the champions of OSAS, I am a sad, lost, unsaved, proud, bitter-heated liar. What can possibly be unbecoming of me? Can a dog and a pig be unbecoming?
OSAS assures people that even if they are at any time not believing, they are still saved. They therefore acknowledge that a believer can cease to believe, but their OSAS minds cannot allow for them being not saved: God is saving the unbeliever.
It's no longer even salvation by grace through faith, but by grace alone. Faith alone is dead, and grace alone is...what? Mystical? Mystery Babylon?
Explaining to someone what they are actually saying is strange, but so is the kingdom of OSAS.
I have been a teacher of the faith and believer of OSAS for over 47 years, and I have always taught belief and obedience with a passion!
For 47 years you have been teaching a lie. But nonetheless, if you do teach belief with obedience
passionately, ye do well. But if you teach salvation amidst unbelief and disobedience, ye do not well:
Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter: Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall.
The kingdom of OSAS shall fall.
The rest of your harang is just childish
liar! liar! pants on fire! stuff. And coming from someone that must at least be 48 years old. Now that is unbecoming of an 'adult', much less a 'teacher'. But then, with the teachers in this world today, being a 'teacher' isn't such a great title to have anymore.
