Why I'm Not a Theist Anymore

[amigo de christo]

I am not so eager to condemn believers for holding different doctrines but I confess I never heard of the names cited.



Always great advice! :)

It depends on the doctrine . if its outright blasphemous , then how on earth does the SPIRIT abide on that .
As for pre , mid , post trib , and other small things . WELL that is mainly lack of understanding . That can be worked out .
But outright dangerous deadly doctrine , well that proves something indeed .
FOR if a man HAS the SPIRIT , the SPIRIT wont lead them into that realm . And these so called folks
were not new born babes , they were so called leaders and had been so for years . SO WHERE is the conviction .
Exactly . THEY FALSE . i wont just drop that line on any ol thing . THEY false . At least the two i looked at were .

 

[Berserk]

Notice how both I.O.U. and Truth OT freeze like Bambi in the headlights when confronted with my detailed challenge.
They need to season their penchant for irrational bluster with at least a modicum of intellectual rigor. I await their detailed response, which they will evade with irrelevant rhetoric.

 

[2bme]

What is the best way for established truth?
I don't say because it's my own personal experiences, or because of what other people say truth is from their experiences, there must be more to it than that.

 

[Wrangler]

What is the best way for established truth?
I don't say because it's my own personal experiences, or because of what other people say truth is from their experiences, there must be more to it than that.

Don't be too quick to claim victory. One of them said they'd be compiling a comprehensive response. Proverbs 24:17

 

[Truth OT]

Out of curiosity, have either of you read A Case for Christ by Lee Strobel?

I have read and own the book. I was hoping it would add some info I was lacking, but I found that it uses many of the same things I used as a believer.

 

[maximum velocity]

I have read and own the book. I was hoping it would add some info I was lacking, but I found that it uses many of the same things I used as a believer.

Fair enough. Thank you for answering my question. I appreciate it.

 

[2bme]

You openly admit you are atheist . So marvel not if i dont heed this advice .
Blind guides point to anything OTHER than JESUS for salvation . Always remember that .
I am not mad at you at all . I know what it is like to be blind . ONLY GOD can open the eyes .
And GOD draws us to FAITH IN CHRIST who indeed gives us the truth .

You should be mad at me. I am mad at me. Why doesn't anyone want to mad at me?

 

[2bme]

Don't be too quick to claim victory. One of them said they'd be compiling a comprehensive response. Proverbs 24:17

What's that got to do with anything?

 

[2bme]

No rush. This is important but not urgent.

A personal favor: Please make concise points, making many posts if need be, e.g., inconsistency #1, Scriptures that seem inconsistent, how they are inconsistent, etc. One guy recently has made numerous >1,000 word replies that are too cumbersome to address or even read easily. IMO, too many people clutter up their posts quoting Scripture. We are all familiar and will likely refer to our preferred translations anyhow. Just referencing the verses should suffice and make your posts more concise. Thanks!

F you.

 

[2bme]

F you.

Sorry

 

[2bme]

Sorry

Very sorry

 

[2bme]

Very sorry

Forgive my temper.

 

[Berserk]

I.O.U and Truth OT,
Let me try a different tact to determine whether and how I might want to engage you.
What kind of commitment would you be willing to make if:
(1) You could be convinced that the Gospel miracle stories were true.
(2) You could be convinced that Jesus rose from the dead and appeared to His disciples.
(3) You could have a powerful self-authenticating experience of the love of Christ.
(4) You or someone close to you could experience a miracle performed in Jesus' name.

 

[2bme]

I.O.U and Truth OT,
Let me try a different tact to determine whether and how I might want to engage you.
What kind of commitment would you be willing to make if:
(1) You could be convinced that the Gospel miracle stories were true.
(2) You could be convinced the Jesus rose from the dead and appeared to His disciples.
(3) You could have a powerful self-authenticating experience of the love of Christ.
(4) You or someone close to you could experience a miracle performed in Jesus' name.

Let me re-tell a little bit of my history with my ye old faith. In 1999 I made my formal commitment to follow the teachings of Jesus, and I haven't turned back on that commitment. Because what I was really commited to was becoming what nature intended me to be. I just understand the workings of this world and the universe different now than I did when I lived for the box lifestyle.

 

[2bme]

It is Jesus who initially inspired me to learn to live outside, day after day.

 

[2bme]

The statistical data about declining in mental health while being on the streets is bogus.

Because those statistics are based on a large body of people who do drug's while on the street, who don't eat healthy while on the street, who get involved with shady people while on the street, who continue to live for luxury rather than survival while on the street.

You know what my greatest challenge on the street is? That I draw a pension, and it can be more of a curse than a blessing :)

 

[2bme]

Would you people like to know how to resolve those knots you get in your stomach when you get stuck outside for a long time. Hey I'll even explain why people who are stuck outside just walk and walk, and keep walking.

 

[Truman]

Would you people like to know how to resolve those knots you get in your stomach when you get stuck outside for a long time. Hey I'll even explain why people who are stuck outside just walk and walk, and keep walking.

Was it Jesus, or Jesus' teachings, that inspired you to live outside?

 

[2bme]

Was it Jesus, or Jesus' teachings, that inspired you to live outside?

Neither. It was the part of the gospels that mentioned that Jesus withdrew to lonely places outside, and that his whole ministry was outside. That got me thinking about my dependence on luxuries, and if I could survive outside

 

[2bme]