What is Freedom?

[GaryAnderson]

@An Apologetic Sheepdog @GaryAnderson

Is it possible for you both to walk away from either the left or right ideology and think for yourselves beyond political affiliation?
Or are you both so enslaved by the political divide that you must take part of the dog and pony show?

But how can we do that? We live here. You for example, without knowing are more on the right than on the left with a lot of conspiracy stuff that you write here.

 

[Ziggy]

I watched this video last night......
I wanted comment on the video I watched last night...
SEE OP
Thank you

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

Is it possible for you both to walk away from either the left or right ideology and think for yourselves beyond political affiliation?
Or are you both so enslaved by the political divide that you must take part of the dog and pony show?

If we were having this exact conversation say 30 years ago, I would be in total agreement with you.

But this day in 2021 (and the foreseeable future) the politics of the left ( moreso than the right although the right is fast catching up) have truly aligned themselves with the doctrines of Satan even down to detail. So, a strong comparison can be made that the "left" and its "ideology" is that of Satan and they are directly stealing elections, selectively violating laws and introducing evils to ENSURE we lose those freedoms and rights we currently are clinging to.

This has now gone way beyond "politics" as we used to discuss them.

This is in no way any endorsement of the "right" by any means but just on fruits alone, No person who "claims" to be Christian ( by the standards set forth in Scripture) can accept the doctrines and ideology of the left.

 

[Ziggy]

Seperate yourself from what the world tells you to think and feel.
Be seperate, come out of her my people and be ye seperate.
HOW?
How does one seperate and be FREE from all the garbage?

This is what I'm HOPING to discuss

 

[GaryAnderson]

I watched this video last night......
I wanted comment on the video I watched last night...
SEE OP
Thank you

Yes that video talks about enslavement of the masses throughout history. Many times the word slavery is mentioned twice in the same sentence.
So I commented that if you think you know what slavery is , then go to North Korea and give up your passport.

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

I see a problem with abortion, diversity without qualifications and some other values contradicting God

You see MURDER as a "value" and you just have a "problem" with it? What did Jesus say about "friendship" with the world and if you love me- keep my commandments?

What kind of "faith" do you think you have?

As far as giving you examples of extreme right, I won’t because you’re entrenched in your position just like I am in mine.

No, you wont because NONE EXIST and stating that would destroy your own false position and expose the truth. That's another attribute near and dear to the left- OUTRIGHT LYING then DENIAL

We have sides to pick and this side is mine.

So did Judas

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

if you think you know what slavery is , then go to North Korea and give up your passport.

Where are the "slaves" kept in North Korea?

 

[GaryAnderson]

Maybe you’re Judas and you said “a problem” not “a value”. Pick your word carefully.

 

[GaryAnderson]

Where are the "slaves" kept in North Korea?

In concentration camps. Also the whole population is subjugated to “The leader”. Any deviations from the party line take you to a concentration camp where you die a quick or slow death.

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

Seperate yourself from what the world tells you to think and feel.
Be seperate, come out of her my people and be ye seperate.
HOW?
How does one seperate and be FREE from all the garbage?

In proper context, that means to repudiate all things of the world and reject them ( coming out of all worldly things)
Don't adopt things like philosophy of the left ( or right), don't condone, don't participate and all that.

We cant come out "physically" nor are we required to because there is no physical safe haven from the world on the world.

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

Maybe you’re Judas and you said “a problem” not “a value”. Pick your word carefully.

I did and I'm not. I was specifically referring to you and your own words convict you- not me.

I'm not the one aligning with and supporting doctrines of demons and all things against Christ and Scripture.

 

[Ziggy]

They tell you to get an education and a degree or else you won't excel in their economy.
They tell you that if you earn this much or that little you are put in a catagory.
They tell you if you are this color or that color then you are in this class or that class.

Why do we listen to them?
Hugs

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

In concentration camps.

By the correct application of the word, those are PRISONERS, not "slaves"

Also the whole population is subjugated to “The leader”.

That's called dominion over citizenry, not slavery and the standard for all oppressive regimes throughout history.

Any deviations from the party line take you to a concentration camp where you die a quick or slow death.

That's intimidation and/or punishment used to keep order and subjugation, again not "slavery"

 

[GaryAnderson]

I’m not aligning with any demons either. Maybe you’re wrong about your ideas of “The left” but it doesn’t matter because in America we’re divided in two camps and we’re both “right”.

In our camp we value America though compared to other nations. We’re doing pretty good.

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

Why do we listen to them?

The question should be Why do we LET them?

 

[farouk]

They tell you to get an education and a degree or else you won't excel in their economy.
They tell you that if you earn this much or that little you are put in a catagory.
They tell you if you are this color or that color then you are in this class or that class.

Why do we listen to them?
Hugs

@Ziggy

There's also the other sort of study, right?

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2.15)

 

[GaryAnderson]

They tell you to get an education and a degree or else you won't excel in their economy.
They tell you that if you earn this much or that little you are put in a catagory.
They tell you if you are this color or that color then you are in this class or that class.

Why do we listen to them?
Hugs

If you don’t want to live in a society than quit. Live off the land in the woods. A few people do that.
If you or your kids want to join society though than you need a few things like education etc.

 

[farouk]

If you don’t want to live in a society than quit. Live off the land in the woods. A few people do that.
If you or your kids want to join society though than you need a few things like education etc are needed.

@GaryAnderson People's living situations are their own business, really, aren't they?

 

[Ziggy]

In the Old Testament,
The seperation of other peoples, the refraining from worshipping other gods.
This peculiar people....
How can we be different if we are partaking of whatever they put on our plate?

There are no real FREE people. As long as a government puts limitations and demands that impede one's ability to be self-sufficient.
You can't just go start a business without jumping through all the regulations.
You can't open a bank account, drive a car, buy certain goods, unless you have the right credentials.

We allowed this to happen.
How do we unhappen it?

 

[GaryAnderson]

@GaryAnderson People's living situations are their own business, really, aren't they?

Not sure what you mean but if we are complaining about things in a society like education, than quit society.
A few people do that. They live off the grid and off the land.