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I have been thinking about this statement a bit... I think we have lost our innocence (so to speak)... People
have been affected and jolted in such a way that it is indeed IMPOSSIBLE to ever go back to normal.
The pandemic has shaken every foundation... This is simply a view from where I sit... and I am NOT even
entertaining the thought of this New World Order thing... I am reflecting from the point of view of a natural
disaster occurring and the process of building things back up.
@Cristo Rei @Enoch111 @Bobby Jo
Would health officials with years of experience (and 8 - 10 years training) purposely lie about covid numbers all around the world and recommend vaccines that are highly unsafe? Are all the covid deaths, just Hollywood actors? Are the mass grave sites dug by Hollywood actors with a green screen behind them? Are the rows of freezer trucks taking people dropping dead from covid to the morgue also Hollywood actors? Are the heaps of people suffering on covid in Hopsitals around the world in ICUs on ventilators, are they also Hollywood actors with green screens?
I think it's time to get real....... The hoax here is countless conspiracy theories made up by fed up people who think they can return life to normal with a push of a button without any consequences, or someone is pulling out the wrong numbers and reading figures upside down (ignorantly or on purpose to play it down) and millions of people are playing Chinese whispers spreading misinformation, believing anything someone says *if it tickles their ears*, even if they are not listening to a medical expert....
To summarize this.
The virus is real, the pandemic is real, I know people who have had covid and so do other members on this site....
Would health officials with years of experience (and 8 - 10 years training) purposely lie about covid numbers all around the world and recommend vaccines that are highly unsafe? Are all the covid deaths, just Hollywood actors? Are the mass grave sites dug by Hollywood actors with a green screen behind them? Are the rows of freezer trucks taking people dropping dead from covid to the morgue also Hollywood actors? Are the heaps of people suffering on covid in Hopsitals around the world in ICUs on ventilators, are they also Hollywood actors with green screens?
I think it's time to get real....... The hoax here is countless conspiracy theories made up by fed up people who think they can return life to normal with a push of a button without any consequences, or someone is pulling out the wrong numbers and reading figures upside down (ignorantly or on purpose to play it down) and millions of people are playing Chinese whispers spreading misinformation, believing anything someone says *if it tickles their ears*, even if they are not listening to a medical expert....
To summarize this.
The virus is real, the pandemic is real, I know people who have had covid and so do other members on this site....
Cristo Rei
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Cristo Rei
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This world is finished...
Welcome a new world of covid communism orchestrated by Satan himself
I'm braced for the discrimination and persecution of the unvaxed and pray to God, like Jesus did in Gethsemane, for strength to overcome it
Welcome a new world of covid communism orchestrated by Satan himself
I'm braced for the discrimination and persecution of the unvaxed and pray to God, like Jesus did in Gethsemane, for strength to overcome it
In support of your post @Josho ... as you are aware... my family has undergone a very bad experience with covid-19.
My cousin's church had a covid outbreak in June... The health unit publicly declared the outbreak on June 23rd.
My cousin is one of five who got covid.... someone showed up at church sick... and it took off from there.
My cousin went from no symptoms to a really bad headache and cough... to severe throwing up... she was hospitalized twice...for brief periods... due to covid complications... she finally was diagnosed with pneumonia... and she believes she is going to be a covid long hauler.... lots of damage to her lungs.
My nephew (12)... tested positive... from contact with my cousin... but he recovered quickly.
My cousin's best friend also got covid... and was very sick... just like my cousin... She was also diagnosed with pneumonia.
Covid is indeed real... I prefer to just keep it that simple.
My cousin's church had a covid outbreak in June... The health unit publicly declared the outbreak on June 23rd.
My cousin is one of five who got covid.... someone showed up at church sick... and it took off from there.
My cousin went from no symptoms to a really bad headache and cough... to severe throwing up... she was hospitalized twice...for brief periods... due to covid complications... she finally was diagnosed with pneumonia... and she believes she is going to be a covid long hauler.... lots of damage to her lungs.
My nephew (12)... tested positive... from contact with my cousin... but he recovered quickly.
My cousin's best friend also got covid... and was very sick... just like my cousin... She was also diagnosed with pneumonia.
Covid is indeed real... I prefer to just keep it that simple.
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Although I agree in part to what you have said I actually believe people lives have been jolted in so many ways over the years, the reality is that NOW it’s hit many people who were quite comfortable and okay. So it has become personal to them. Life is progressively moving and changing , there is no such thing as normal if you really think about it, it’s what we become comfortable with that makes us feel it is a normal, and something we want to return to. Security ….but the issue as Christians should be to be secure in Christ no matter what the circumstances. Paul learned to be content in all circumstances, his life was always changing.
Rita
Where is this statistic from ??? I don't usually read the articles that people post...
I absolutely AGREE with what you have stated... I did not make a comment on this issue.... because my thoughts on such matters are usually NOT welcomed... I kept my words short and sweet... LOL This has been a reap what you have sewn experience.
The damage it can cause to lungs is definitely not good, I saw pictures on the news the other night, show healthy lungs and then the lungs of someone who has suffered from covid severely, and the difference was shocking, there was lots of scarring on the lungs of someone who got a bad bit of covid.
Yep.... My cousin is now out of quarantine... I forgot to mention that her husband also got covid... He did not get sick like my cousin did... Anyways... she has been out of quarantine since last Monday and she is still not well enough to want to come out.
The same places that covid deaths have been stated , but they were questioned as not being factual and exaggerated. This is what gets to me here, there justified as factual for one thing and false for another. Anyone can produce statistics to fit their arguements and justification. The truth is that figures can and have been manipulated on both sides. The reality is that some have reacted badly to both covid and the vaccines.
As far as being persecuted for not being vaccinated ,pretty sure that works the other way in Christian circles and many will be condemned by brothers and sisters because they got the jab. It’s happened here, so Satan wins by dividing us.
They passed the law for compulsory vaccines in the care home …that went through earlier this week.
I did see a story that in Spain a court has decided that the lockdowns were illegal, so now businesses can sue the governments, that will be interesting to see if it has a knock on effect. Rita
I don't trust statistics at all from anywhere.... @Rita ... which is why I don't pay attention to them... but Cristo said 2 million deaths from covid shots... I found that alarming... these are serious claims being made... and I don't think there is any way that this can actually be proven...
I am not familiar with the places that people glean their information from. I was just surprised that people are posting actual numbers... Anyways... this is not a subject that interests me... I usually hit up APAK and Cristo for laughs...
I am not familiar with the places that people glean their information from. I was just surprised that people are posting actual numbers... Anyways... this is not a subject that interests me... I usually hit up APAK and Cristo for laughs...
It shouldn’t be that way, there is no reason why both sides cannot raise issues and state their thoughts. I am not even sure if it as as simple as being on one side or the other, I have been vaccinated but I do see manipulation and it being used. I see endless decisions being made that make no sense at all.
It’s not as black and white as perhaps some think it is …….
Rita
I did not find the 2 million covid shot deaths statistic, from what I found on USA's CDC, which some people will ignore, is that covid vaccine deaths were in the 6,000s out of 330 million + covid vaccines or whatever it is.
USA is a highly populated nation compared to other countries.
COVID-19 Vaccination
"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 334 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 12, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,079 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths."
USA's covid death count is over 600,000
I just don't know how on God's green earth people can quote these statistics out of their hats... all of them I mean...
Not just the covid deaths... but the vaccine deaths... I guess I am just the naturally SUSPICIOUS type... I don't trust anyone's
assessment of things...
I am not able to wrap my head around 2 million deaths due to vaccines.... There is NO way ANYONE can have this kind of information.
Anyways... I just went for a nice long walk with the dog I am sitting.... It's shaping up to be a lovely day.
Not just the covid deaths... but the vaccine deaths... I guess I am just the naturally SUSPICIOUS type... I don't trust anyone's
assessment of things...
I am not able to wrap my head around 2 million deaths due to vaccines.... There is NO way ANYONE can have this kind of information.
Anyways... I just went for a nice long walk with the dog I am sitting.... It's shaping up to be a lovely day.
That is just the way the forums play out... and it has been the hardest thing for me to learn... that even if I simply quote ONE person... there are hundreds of other comments and opinions that are birthed from it... that is why I usually don't bother quoting people when I have something to say.... People do not seem to respect the fact that it is often a one to one conversation... LOL
Maybe I'm just arrogant or something but when I say my peace... my thoughts are simply that... my thoughts.. .and I am not usually open to being challenged.
Cristo Rei
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We've reached an all new low in moral standards..
Society now accepts murder.
In the name of covid.
For the greater good.
Lord help us.
Society now accepts murder.
In the name of covid.
For the greater good.
Lord help us.
Brakelite
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And if covid is actually not an individual virus but merely a different flu strain? Are the numbers of deaths... And the age range of casualties... And the underlying medical conditions contributing to their death... Any different from the numbers from, say 5 years ago?
Now you may say, but the tests have revealed millions affected. Maybe true. But affected/infected, with what? If it were the flu, and no tests done, what difference would it make? They only difference would be the fear and the media focus. That's it.
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