Thoughts on what a False Prophet is?

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ADJ.
fals·er, fals·est
  1. Contrary to fact or truth
  2. Deliberately untrue
  3. Arising from mistaken ideas
  4. Intentionally deceptive
prophet
[ˈpräfət]
NOUN
  1. a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God.
    "the Old Testament prophet, Jeremiah"
    synonyms:
    seer · soothsayer · forecaster of the future · fortune teller · clairvoyant ·
    [more]
    • (the Prophet)
      (among Muslims) Muhammad.
    • (the Prophet)
      (among the Latter-day Saints or Mormons) Joseph Smith or one of his successors.
  2. (the Prophets)
    (in Christian use) the books of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, and the twelve minor prophets.
 
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My interpretation: a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God arising with mistaken ideas, deceptive spirits or intentionally deceptive motives.

  • Matthew 7:15 (KJV)
    Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Jesus Christ does not teach us to beware of wolves in wolves clothing but those who seem like true prophets.
 

Curtis

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Not sure, but I think it’s a prophet who is false.
Unless it’s someone false who gives prophecies.
 

JohnDB

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When someone distorts the gospel message or God's message to us...that makes them a false prophet.

Things like "gold dusters" or "winds of doctrine" that are so prevalent in churches.

From political positions to medical advice...those things are not part and parcel with the message of God. They pervert the gospel. God has already picked leaders to the end of time itself. Which ones will shine and which ones will be duds.

But we have a choice to make...are we going to get in on God's plans or are we fruitlessly asking God to join our plans.
(Who is the better planner?)

So...
We can determine things using this standard. Yes, we can be mistrustful of our Government...but that doesn't mean that they are there for our harm. God set them up for a reason...or He can depose them if He wants.
God is Sovereign. He doesn't need our stuff...just our hearts. And if God wants us to have stuff He will make that happen too.

What God wants most from us is for us to be able to hear that silent sound of heartbreak and/or of joy over repentance to righteousness.

This isn't secret stuff...not a new revelation...not a new rule or circumstances. Same thing as has been for thousands of years. Nothing has changed.
Humility and not humiliation
Sufferings without abusive situations
Plenty without excessive wealth.
Pure, honest, and simple lives without all the drama...

And...if someone is preaching whatever outside of this...extra rules, extra provisions, abstaining from whatever foods that seem normal, special foods, special practices, or special days...then they are perverting the gospel message. They are indeed a false prophet.
 

Robert Gwin

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false
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ADJ.
fals·er, fals·est
  1. Contrary to fact or truth
  2. Deliberately untrue
  3. Arising from mistaken ideas
  4. Intentionally deceptive
prophet
[ˈpräfət]
NOUN
  1. a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God.
    "the Old Testament prophet, Jeremiah"
    synonyms:
    seer · soothsayer · forecaster of the future · fortune teller · clairvoyant ·
    [more]
    • (the Prophet)
      (among Muslims) Muhammad.
    • (the Prophet)
      (among the Latter-day Saints or Mormons) Joseph Smith or one of his successors.
  2. (the Prophets)
    (in Christian use) the books of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, and the twelve minor prophets.

There are many of them for sure Marc. That term would really apply to anyone who claimed to be a Christian yet was not teaching the truth, as you point out in your standard verses, that you must worship God with truth.

Other terms used are antichrists, false christs, apostates, goats, etc. Interestingly they are very powerful as that is why there are well over 10,000 faiths that claim to be Christian Acts 20:29,30. Of course we know there is only one truth, and those who left the faith lost God's favor.
 

Ronald David Bruno

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false
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ADJ.
fals·er, fals·est
  1. Contrary to fact or truth
  2. Deliberately untrue
  3. Arising from mistaken ideas
  4. Intentionally deceptive
prophet
[ˈpräfət]
NOUN
  1. a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God.
    "the Old Testament prophet, Jeremiah"
    synonyms:
    seer · soothsayer · forecaster of the future · fortune teller · clairvoyant ·
    [more]
    • (the Prophet)
      (among Muslims) Muhammad.
    • (the Prophet)
      (among the Latter-day Saints or Mormons) Joseph Smith or one of his successors.
  2. (the Prophets)
    (in Christian use) the books of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, and the twelve minor prophets.
That's all correct. I think Jesus was warning us of future false spiritual prophets who may be claiming to be Him. "THERE He is ..."
"Really, did he DESCEND FROM the CLOUDS AS HE ASCENDED ... with His angels in His glory?"

I would also like to submit that it could be a secular prophet, an atheist who actually lives to blasphemes God in every way. It is how he lives, a lover of money and power ... science, technolgy. He/they speak of the future, how to make a better world, but "With global warming, the planet only has ten years left if we don't do something, bla, bla, bla." It is all a disguise for Global Governance.
This One World Government is led by false prophets who have lied to us from the start. This pandemic has been a dark cloud over the earth, surrounded by lies, controlling us, instilling and manfacturing fear and distorting numbers.
Bill Gates invested $10 billion in vaccine development and delivery technology that most are not aware of. Have you heard of "Luciferase" or that this is not really a vaccine but geneic therapy? Nano-technology? It is feared that this will alter your DNA, cause abortions, sterility, death and have a severe or deadly reaction to the next virus - when they release it! There are over 100k doctors against this vaccine and many are refusing to take it. Fauci ... what a liar. The country is gone, sold out to this NWO, corrupted on every level all the way to the top. They are telling us that this vaccine is good for you and will "maybe help prevent" you from getting Covid-19 again, and we are supposed to trust them_ BIG PHARMA _ a miracle vaccine _ created in no time at all?
Even Clinton, Bush and Obama get together and promote it. "Do the right thing! Take it and you won't have to wear a mask," which every one is sick of.
Isn't this how Satan works, with lies, deception, fear, control?
Bill Gates is an atheist and tech god. He believes in Eugenics, that the world is far too over-populated. 500,000,000 should be are target he believes. So how will they depopulate the world, is the question? By abortions, promoting homosexuality and gender choice,
gay marriage, pestilence, drugs, genetics, wars, sterilization, famine. .
Beware of false prophets who disguise themselves in sheep's clothing, but also the secular tech monsters, even the people you trust with your lives, the WHO and world leaders who operate behind closed doors, (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Soros, the ultra rich); they are already controling us.
*** Be careful not accuse true Christians who love God, but may be teaching something in error. Much of this incriminating judgement is going on! We know in part and so can't expect the 100% truth to come out of anyone all the time.
 
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Ronald David Bruno

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Anyone who teaches heresy or error!

you can start with all the so called reformers
Oh gee, how about the hundreds of priests who come dressed in sheep's clothing and molest little boys and girls. "Come to me ... I will bless you!" By their fruit you will know them! Teaching errors is bad enough, but leading children into darkness ... well, it would be better if they weren't born or maybe they should just tie a millstone around their necks and throw themselves into the sea?
Martin Luther was sent by God to rebuke and correct the flaws of the RCC. But that is a can of worms isn't it - let's leave it alone.
 
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Oh gee, how about the hundreds of priests who come dressed in sheep's clothing and molest little boys and girls. "Come to me ... I will bless you!" By their fruit you will know them! Teaching errors is bad enough, but leading children into darkness ... well, it would be better if they weren't born or maybe they should just tie a millstone around their necks and throw themselves into the sea?
Martin Luther was sent by God to rebuke and correct the flaws of the RCC. But that is a can of worms isn't it - let's leave it alone.

These predators are not taught by holy church to do such things

Luther sent by God?
How? You got scripture for that
I got plenty against that

2 Tim 4:3

by what authority was he sent, not Christ’s authority
Christ sent the apostles eph 2:20
Luther was no apostle

Any attack on the church is an attack on Christ!

Christ and His church are one, what Christ did the church continues to do, the church is an extension of Christ!
To attack the church is to attack Christ!
Acts 9:4

What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?
 

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When someone distorts the gospel message or God's message to us...that makes them a false prophet.

Things like "gold dusters" or "winds of doctrine" that are so prevalent in churches.

From political positions to medical advice...those things are not part and parcel with the message of God. They pervert the gospel. God has already picked leaders to the end of time itself. Which ones will shine and which ones will be duds.

But we have a choice to make...are we going to get in on God's plans or are we fruitlessly asking God to join our plans.
(Who is the better planner?)

So...
We can determine things using this standard. Yes, we can be mistrustful of our Government...but that doesn't mean that they are there for our harm. God set them up for a reason...or He can depose them if He wants.
God is Sovereign. He doesn't need our stuff...just our hearts. And if God wants us to have stuff He will make that happen too.

What God wants most from us is for us to be able to hear that silent sound of heartbreak and/or of joy over repentance to righteousness.

This isn't secret stuff...not a new revelation...not a new rule or circumstances. Same thing as has been for thousands of years. Nothing has changed.
Humility and not humiliation
Sufferings without abusive situations
Plenty without excessive wealth.
Pure, honest, and simple lives without all the drama...

And...if someone is preaching whatever outside of this...extra rules, extra provisions, abstaining from whatever foods that seem normal, special foods, special practices, or special days...then they are perverting the gospel message. They are indeed a false prophet.

The Bible makes clear that a false prophet makes predictions they say were given by God, and says if those predictions don’t come true, they are a false prophet, and heard no word from the Lord.

You add definitions to that, which are not so.

By your definition Paul became a false prophet when he told Timothy to use wine for his stomach ailment.
 

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false
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ADJ.
fals·er, fals·est
  1. Contrary to fact or truth
  2. Deliberately untrue
  3. Arising from mistaken ideas
  4. Intentionally deceptive
prophet
[ˈpräfət]
NOUN
  1. a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God.
    "the Old Testament prophet, Jeremiah"
    synonyms:
    seer · soothsayer · forecaster of the future · fortune teller · clairvoyant ·
    [more]
    • (the Prophet)
      (among Muslims) Muhammad.
    • (the Prophet)
      (among the Latter-day Saints or Mormons) Joseph Smith or one of his successors.
  2. (the Prophets)
    (in Christian use) the books of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, and the twelve minor prophets.
A false prophet could be a horiscope creator, or a palm reader. Vague but may look like it comes to pass.
 

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The Bible makes clear that a false prophet makes predictions they say were given by God, and says if those predictions don’t come true, they are a false prophet, and heard no word from the Lord.

You add definitions to that, which are not so.

By your definition Paul became a false prophet when he told Timothy to use wine for his stomach ailment.

Prophesy has three types:
Preaching...
Forth telling... absolutely the truth. Always bad news when the prophet came to tell you something. Meaning you need to repent.
Fore telling... always bad news about the future.

I've added nothing. You do seem to leave things out... cutting out inconvenient portions of the scriptures?

Preaching what God says always has proof.
The scriptures or a sign of some sort.

Currently I'm using scriptures and have well known passages to back up my claims. Paul's direction to Timothy was concerning his abstinence and the resulting diarrhea. He couldn't even read a passage of scripture without needing to run out to the bathroom in the middle of services. The wine was for stearalisation of the local water. And that wasn't prophesy...just sound advice. Timothy was practicing an abstinence that was unnecessary.