new version of OSAS?

[Jostler]

He's too busy hurling insults at NON OSASers and name calling.

Something similar to what you are doing,? ;)

 

[BloodBought 1953]

What a lie! He already admitted having a license to sin! YOU are the one deceiving him. But that's a perfect example of OSAS! OSASers don't even know why they preach OSAS! I think you're trying to convince each other. Alas OSAS is a total myth!

Hebrews 6:4-8 (NKJV)
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit (Christians), 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. 7 For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; 8 but if it bears thorns and briars, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

You do not understand Heb 6..... you probably don’t understand Heb 10 either.....have you ever take 15 minutes to hear the simple explanation of these verse that even a 10 year old could understand....confused, poorly taught people turn the entire Bible upside - down to accommodate two verses taken out of context.....google “ Andrew Farley Heb 6 and 10” .....try not to be “ stiff- necked”....

 

[Corlove13]

Instead of arguments...I'm going to go to passages.... Ephesian 2 for example:

And asked what does scripture say one is saved from.....do not add to it...

What is the grace? The unearned favor we cannot do by ourselves?

And whose faith is verse 8 referring to.
And what does "through" mean in verse 7.


2 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Also...I wanted to show this in the kjv
Because it says through Christ Jesus...

Like I said earlier I started a thread so that we can learn...why it's important in the context...the diff between Christ Jesus and Jesus Christ.....

And the difference is one is referring to His life before the the resurrection
And one is referring to after.

So...which one do you believe is here when it says through "Christ Jesus"

My point I am trying to get us to see
Is that.....while His death saves us by reconciliation.......living by His life continues to save us...

Because in my opinion....and I may be wrong.. but when you are really born again and forgiven...you know it!...so How do we continue to maintain this relationship...that God want to shows in verse 7 "the riches of His grace"

Because anybody who had been in a relationship...rather married, or friends..knows that we need to maintain it.

Look what is said in Revelations 2:5
Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.

Have you ever wondered why repentance is necessary...after you were saved [being quickened to life?]

Think about your marriages?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

So which one is wrong? The old Osas, or the new?

Wait until you see NEXT weeks version! Lol....

 

[kcnalp]

Something similar to what you are doing,? ;)

Not even close. Ever hear the saying, "Put up or shut up"?

 

[kcnalp]

You do not understand Heb 6..... you probably don’t understand Heb 10 either.....have you ever take 15 minutes to hear the simple explanation of these verse that even a 10 year old could understand....confused, poorly taught people turn the entire Bible upside - down to accommodate two verses taken out of context.....google “ Andrew Farley Heb 6 and 10” .....try not to be “ stiff- necked”....

I quote God and you refer me to Andrew Farley. lol

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I think he has me on ignore so he didn't see the two links I posted showing where BB came right out and said grace is a license to sin. You should copy those and post them for him so he can see them.

Nobody needs a “ License to Sin”—— we all do a splendid job of Sinning without any so- called “ License”..... lol.....I know that “ I” do.....how ‘bout the rest of you out there! C’mon now.....be honest!

 

[kcnalp]

Nobody needs a “ License to Sin”—— we all do a splendid job of Sinning without any so- called “ License”..... lol.....I know that “ I” do.....how ‘bout the rest of you out there! C’mon now.....be honest!

So then, you can deny Jesus and blaspheme the Holy Spirit and still be a Christian? No you can't!

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Blood Bought 1953 said:
"If I died when I didn’t believe I would have gone to Heaven because there was One Time That I DID Believe.....that’s all it takes...."

Tares Reveal Themselves by what they DON’T Say...And They Are With us Here .How to Identify Them...

That's a license to sin!

If I gave you a license to have a free Drano enema , would you use it?

I don’t have a “ License to Sin ” .....I don’t want one .....if I had one I would not use it.....Sin to me, now that I have a New Heart, is like sticking my hand in a fire.....now who wants a License to do that ?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I quote God and you refer me to Andrew Farley. lol

Your loss.....stay ignorant....I don’t care...Farely is just one example....there are many more God - Given Teachers out there....You, like jbf , ( Whatever happened to that guy? )are probably self- taught, and Boy, does it show!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

OSAS says it! You forsook OSAS?

You don’t know anything about OSAS. Just your perverted view.
Let’s talk about that Bible not OSAS. Or is that to hard for you

 

[Eternally Grateful]

He's too busy hurling insults at NON OSASers and name calling.

Ahh but all the insults you throw at us are ok?

your a hypocrite just like a few others are

 

[Corlove13]

So then, you can deny Jesus and blaspheme the Holy Spirit and still be a Christian? No you can't!

Right...A Christian ....really means a follower of Christ. But it has been changed to mean...those who believe something Jesus
did so they can have heaven when they physically die.

Instead of those that Trust Jesus following Him in taking up our cross...

 

[Corlove13]

Did Jesus mean what OSAS stands for
That you can be a Christian and not a disciple?

 

[Corlove13]

Instead of arguments...I'm going to go to passages.... Ephesian 2 for example:

And asked what does scripture say one is saved from.....do not add to it...

What is the grace? The unearned favor we cannot do by ourselves?

And whose faith is verse 8 referring to.
And what does "through" mean in verse 7.


2 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

For myself having been an OSASer..what I found is ...it was a doctrine that I trusted..
believing I had the right beliefs. And what it brought about is pride and boastful atitude.

And if you look at the passages...there is no boasting in Christ....

So you shouldn't trust the doctrine[belief system] but Jesus.

Anything outside of faith in Christ is sin.
Why do you think many moslems kill.
Because you are not doing/believing what they are. They have their own rightness. As OSAS
but OSAS rightness is their belief system.

And Its not about your filtering through Osas[the doctrine] But about Trusting Jesus.



“If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”

So were these people always saved if their sins were not forgiven?

For the salvation is about God taking care of you....

You are waiting for heaven when you die but the truth is.....much of time, the salvation spoken of in the Bible is referring to being saved from present circumstances...

If you have Life now you do not perish
St John 3:16....

Nothing can seperated you from the Love of God that is in Christ.......

Look at the Location...so if we live a life of sin are we in Christ?

What I did...myself was everytime I seen saved...my mind could only go to heaven when I died...so keep this in mind next time you are reading the word.

 

[Corlove13]

Hebrews 4:11

Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.

Those who believe enter...
But what kept the others out?
They did not mix what they head with faith

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Not even close. Ever hear the saying, "Put up or shut up"?

Still waiting for you to put up

all we hear from you is a lot of anger and false accusations

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So then, you can deny Jesus and blaspheme the Holy Spirit and still be a Christian? No you can't!

The Bible says those people have never been saved

why do you deny the omniscience of God. Having no knowledge of who these people are. And giving them eternal life only to have to Make it Conditional because God was fooled
By their fake faith

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Right...A Christian ....really means a follower of Christ. But it has been changed to mean...those who believe something Jesus
did so they can have heaven when they physically die.

Instead of those that Trust Jesus following Him in taking up our cross...

Nope mere belief never saved anyone. and true OSAS does not teach otherwise

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Did Jesus mean what OSAS stands for
That you can be a Christian and not a disciple?

OSAS does not teach this either

in order To be saved you must be born again then you are a disciple and God starts his work in you. A disciple is always a disciple. Those who left Jesus left Due to unbelief (John 6). They were never saved.