WHY JESUS CANNOT BE MICHAEL!

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AN/THE ARCHANGEL’S VOICE?
WHY JESUS CANNOT BE MICHAEL!

There are specific groups such as the seventh day Adventists that believe the following passage describes the risen Christ as an archangel:

“But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.” 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

According to these individuals, Jesus’ descent with the voice of an/the archangel is taken to be a reference to Christ himself. I.e., the voice of an/the archangel is none other than Jesus’ own voice. They further infer from their interpretation of this text that Jesus must be Michael since he is the only archangel explicitly mentioned by name in the NT:

“But Michael the archangel, when he, disputing with the devil, was arguing about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a blasphemous judgment, but said, ‘The Lord rebuke you!’” Jude 1:9

In this post I will show that such is not the case and that this is based on a gross misinterpretation of the inspired words of the blessed Apostle.

HOW SHOULD IT BE RENDERED?

To begin with, the interpretation and/or explanation of this passage is not as clear as these groups would have their followers believe. Case in point:

“because the Lord [= Yahweh or Christ] Himself will continue habitually descending (or: repeatedly descend) from [the] atmosphere (or: heaven) within the midst of (or: in union with) a shout of command, within the midst of [the] Chief Agent’s (or:in union with AN original messenger’s or A chief and ruling agent’s) voice, and within the midst of (or: in union with) God’s trumpet [note: figure of a message or a directive for action], and the dead people within Christ (or: in union with [the] Anointed One) will continue raising themselves up first (or: will one-after-another be standing up again in [the or their] first place).” 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Jonathan Mitchell New Testament (JMNT)

As the readers can see it is debated whether the Lord’s descent is accompanied by the voice of AN archangel, or THE archangel since the Greek word for archangel is anarthrous, i.e., it does not have the definite article preceding it. The same is true for the term trumpet, e.g., should it be a or the trumpet of God? More on this latter point later.

 
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AN/THE ARCHANGEL’S VOICE?
WHY JESUS CANNOT BE MICHAEL!

There are specific groups such as the seventh day Adventists that believe the following passage describes the risen Christ as an archangel:

“But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.” 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

According to these individuals, Jesus’ descent with the voice of an/the archangel is taken to be a reference to Christ himself. I.e., the voice of an/the archangel is none other than Jesus’ own voice. They further infer from their interpretation of this text that Jesus must be Michael since he is the only archangel explicitly mentioned by name in the NT:

“But Michael the archangel, when he, disputing with the devil, was arguing about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a blasphemous judgment, but said, ‘The Lord rebuke you!’” Jude 1:9

In this post I will show that such is not the case and that this is based on a gross misinterpretation of the inspired words of the blessed Apostle.

HOW SHOULD IT BE RENDERED?

To begin with, the interpretation and/or explanation of this passage is not as clear as these groups would have their followers believe. Case in point:

“because the Lord [= Yahweh or Christ] Himself will continue habitually descending (or: repeatedly descend) from [the] atmosphere (or: heaven) within the midst of (or: in union with) a shout of command, within the midst of [the] Chief Agent’s (or:in union with AN original messenger’s or A chief and ruling agent’s) voice, and within the midst of (or: in union with) God’s trumpet [note: figure of a message or a directive for action], and the dead people within Christ (or: in union with [the] Anointed One) will continue raising themselves up first (or: will one-after-another be standing up again in [the or their] first place).” 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Jonathan Mitchell New Testament (JMNT)

As the readers can see it is debated whether the Lord’s descent is accompanied by the voice of AN archangel, or THE archangel since the Greek word for archangel is anarthrous, i.e., it does not have the definite article preceding it. The same is true for the term trumpet, e.g., should it be a or the trumpet of God? More on this latter point later.

Similar to JW thinking. -Seems God is a trumpet. Hebrews is crystal clear that Jesus was not an angel.
 

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Very crystal-hence the post.
Amen brother. It's amazing how religions twist the scriptures. The ones they don't change by adding and taking away words, they twist into pretzels. There is beauty and simplicity in Christ and in preaching Him, crucified.
 
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Amen brother. It's amazing how religions twist the scriptures. The ones they don't change by adding and taking away words, they twist into pretzels. There is beauty and simplicity in Christ and in preaching Him, crucified.
Amen @PS95--too much philosophizing with mere empty rhetoric.

The concept of using simple words in preaching is deeply rooted in biblical principles and practical pastoral effectiveness. When we examine the Scriptures, we see that both Jesus and the apostles often communicated profound truths using straightforward language that was accessible to their audiences. Here are several reasons why preaching with simple words is essential:

Biblical Precedent
Jesus’ Teaching Style: Jesus used parables and common life experiences to convey deep spiritual truths. For example, in the Parable of the Sower (Matthew 13:1-23), Jesus used agricultural imagery familiar to His audience, making complex spiritual concepts easier to understand and remember.

Paul’s Approach: The Apostle Paul emphasizes clarity and simplicity in his letters. In 1 Corinthians 2:1-5, Paul deliberately avoids lofty speech or complex wisdom, choosing instead to focus on the plain and straightforward message of Christ crucified. This approach ensured that the faith of the believers rested on God’s power rather than human wisdom.

Theological Considerations
Accessibility of the Gospel: The gospel is intended to be accessible to all people, regardless of their educational or intellectual background. Simple language removes barriers and ensures that everyone can understand the message of salvation. This inclusivity is central to the Christian mission.

Clarity and Comprehension: The primary goal of preaching is to convey God’s truth clearly and effectively. Using simple words helps ensure that the congregation comprehends the message, which is crucial for spiritual growth and application. Complex or obscure language can obscure the message and hinder its impact.

Practical Aspects
Engagement and Retention: Simple and clear communication helps keep the audience engaged. People are more likely to retain and reflect on messages that are straightforward and easy to grasp. This engagement is vital for the transformative work of the Holy Spirit in the hearts of listeners.

Modeling Humility and Love: Preachers who use simple language demonstrate humility and love for their congregation. They show that they prioritize the spiritual well-being of their listeners over showcasing their own knowledge or eloquence. This approach aligns with the servant-leadership model exemplified by Christ.

Conclusion
Preaching with simple words is not about dumbing down the message but about making it accessible and impactful for all listeners. By following the example of Jesus and the apostles, and by prioritizing clarity and accessibility, preachers can effectively communicate the life-changing truths of the gospel. This approach ensures that the message of Christ reaches the hearts and minds of all people, fulfilling the Great Commission to make disciples of all nations.

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There are specific groups such as the seventh day Adventists that believe the following passage describes the risen Christ as an archangel:
I had no idea this was an SDA view! The depths of my ignorance is amazing!

Much love!
 
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I had no idea this was an SDA view! The depths of my ignorance is amazing!

Much love!
You are far more advanced in knowledge and biblical truths than me brother-just open the link and see Sam Shamoun's blog-but be careful, he turned Eastern Orthodox and believe in the sacraments and Mary's perpetual virginity.
More of a Muslim apologist with a very foul mouth.
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