Who is Babylon of revelation chapter 17 ??

[CC7799]

Revelation chapter 17

Babylon means - confusion. It comes from Satan.

Talking about false religion.

Some so caled scholars and higher critics, try to demonize Christians who have back bone to teach truth.

Many Christians are not prepared for false Messiah, 6 th Trump.

Some shepherds are ignorant of Gods word. Think seminary class is the trick, and thier qualified to teach Gods word.

Hebrews chapter 5

It takes years of studying under pastors, to be trained to teach Gods word. Some shepherds can't teach revelation or old testament. That is shameful.

At the 6th Trump, Satan as false Messiah, will come to Jerusalem. He will lead one world religious system.

Old mystery Babylon is confusion, false religion.

Some fake shepherds are spouting out dooms Day and rapture. Its lies and false doctrine.

Any womder the fake shepherds keep putting out books. Thier false prophecy, and lies won't stand.

We're close to 6th Trump. This isn't time to play church or kick can down road.

Ephesians chapter 6

Those who don't have gospel armor. Will worship antichrist near future. They are spiritually dead.

Shepherds are responsible for the sheep.

Failing Jesus, and their congregation, or misleading people by just planting seeds. I wouldn't want face Jesus.

Fake shepherds will wet themselves on judgement Day.

Shepherds are accountable to Jesus.

Of course Satan might send false brethren to try to contaminate . Push those poison pills.

Satan, and false brethren hate the Truth.

 

[Brakelite]

Babylon is a spiritual entity. It is not a literal city, however a literal city is associated with her.
Some characteristics taken from Revelation 17 and 18.
1. She's a mother.
2. She has daughters.
3. The city she is associated with has 7 hills.
4. Clothed in purple and scarlet.
5. Sits upon many waters, which according to scripture are many peoples, is a global institution, not confined to just the city.
6. Has illicit relations with the kings of the earth... that is state governments.
7. Sits on a beast, which is the state power. IOW she relies on the state for support, but guides the state by holding the reins.
8. Has a cup full of intoxicating wine which the whole world is affected by. Wine is doctrine. In her case, false doctrine causing confusion, drunkenness, madness.
9. Drunk with the blood of Christian martyrs. She is a persecuting power.
10. Chapter 18 describes her as fallen. The Greek word used is the derivative to apostasy. Which literally means divorce. In scripture, apostasy or divorce is a voluntary annulment of marriage with Christ by fornicating with others... in her case the kings and rulers of this world.

Therefore Babylon must be a fallen Christian church. It cannot be Islam, or Jerusalem, or the United States, for she also has daughters, other Christian churches who have also fallen by pursuing the same practises... fornicating with the kings of the earth.

God has people in these fallen churches. He is calling His people out of them before He judges them. He does not want His people partaking of the sins of Babylon. Pursuing political answers to spiritual problems. Aligning with kings, presidents, governors of state in order to accomplish spiritual goals. Doing this is as much as telling God to get lost. He's not wanted. They can do the work without Him. Even secular governments are capable of bringing righteousness to a nation... and eventually to the world. It's heresy. Apostasy. And churches and individuals who actively pursue such false doctrinal goals is deception and wilful separation from your Creator. It is literally the abomination of desolation that surrounded Jerusalem... this time however it is spiritual Rome not pagan Rome. And soon they will seek to be surrounding spiritual Jerusalem, the true remnant of God's people who have refused to join in her apostasy, who refuse the mark, who keep the commandments of God and not the false traditions and commandants of men.

 

[ReChoired]

Revelation 17 identified by scripture, here (Powerpoint) - Revelation 17 Hydra Therapy, The Cure For A 7 Heads Ache by brother Aaron Earnest : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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[Ronald D Milam]

Revelation chapter 17

Babylon means - confusion. It comes from Satan.

Talking about false religion.

You kind of get this right, but do not understand that Babylon and The Harlot are two different entities, and that's why we get two chapters devoted to The Harlot (Rev. 17) False Religions and Babylon (Rev. 18) the Great which represents Gov. Beasts under Satan's Deceptive Powers. So, you see that Babylon means CONFUSION (correct) but you misdiagnose it as False Religion (which is a part of his confusion program no doubt) instead of Satan's Dark Rule over all the earth.

At the 6th Trump, Satan as false Messiah, will come to Jerusalem. He will lead one world religious system.

The 6th Trump is the 2nd Woe, you TIMING is way off, Satan is cast down in the middle of the 70th week at the First Trump (when the Asteroid Hits//God's Wrath). That's why he chases the Woman (Israel) for 1260 days in Rev. 12. Israel never accepts a False Messiah, that a misconception on many peoples minds, they firstly misunderstand John 5:43, it was about the Pharisees of Jesus' time, he told them you (YOU the Pharisees) will not accept me but YOU will accept another who comes in his on name. Now, look this up, its a historical fact. The Pharisees knew Rome was the Fourth Beast (like we do) and so they thought the Messiah would come and save them in the 67-70 AD War, that is why Jesus warned his disciples not to buy into the Wars and Rumors of Wars in Matt. 24:4-6, and made it a point to tell them "The End is not Yet" so they knew 100 percent that was not Jesus come again. Instead, people see John 5:43 and thinks its an END TIME Prophesy it is not.

This throws those who do not understand to think Israel accepts a False Messiah, they do not, the A.C. is a Gentile, thus he could never be confused as a False Messiah. Do you know what Dan. 9:27 really means? Its this simple, the Agreement (Covenant in Hebrew means Agreement) is this, after the Gog & Magog war Israel will join the European Union. Look up the European Neighborhood Policy, its a policy agenda that the E.U. currently has with Israel, but also with (IMHO) The Many, the E.U. has a 7 Year Deal with Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Morocco and Algeria, these agreements ran from 2007-2013, from 2014-2020 so they are in 7 year cycles. The E.U. doles out 15 Billion Euros to these nations, in order to for ties with the region, and in order to MAYBE bring in some of these as added E.U. states, it says that on the Wikipedia site.

Now, when one reads Dan. 1:40-43 the actual Anti-Christ battle (the 7th Syrian War) where it shows him Conquering countries tm get at Israel )Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, then Israel, then all pf North Africa, they creates a Reunified Rome. Look at this, Rome circa 117 AD and the E.U. who Conquers Israel and THE MANY or the Whole Mediterranean Sea Region !! Its Rome Revived !!





So, Israel never accepts a False Messiah, they join the E.U. and God's ANGER is revived, the 70th week kicks off, how dare they "give away His land". This kicks of both the Rapture and the 70th week. The 1335 is the Two-witnesses they get Israel to repent 1335 days before the 2nd coming of Jesus. Then the False Prophet is the one who TAKES AWAY the Sacrifice (forbids Jesus Worship by the 1/3 or 5 million Jews who repented) then he places the IMAGE (read Rev. 13 it clearly says he gets the people to place an IMAGE of the First b-Beast up in the temple) of the Beast and that is the AoD that defiles the Temple. This of the Temple is DEFILED that means it had to be CLEANSED, and it was because 5 million Jews worshiped Jesus. So, who is the False Prophet? A Jewish High Priest, like unto Jason (real name Yeshua) under Antiochus Epiphanes (AE4). He bribed AE4 to be named the High Priest, having his High Priest brother Onias III, a pious High Priest killed. He then welcomed AE4 into the temple of God to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus, (which is why the temple had to be cleansed via what we know know as Hanukkah) he then mandated that all Jesus become Hellenized, which led to the Maccabean Revolt. So, just like AE4 was an archetype Anti-Christ, OF COURSE he had to have an archetype False Prophet right alongside of him. So, why does the False Prophet throw in with the A.C./Beast? Because he hates that 5 Million Jews started worshiping Jesus, thus he FORBIDS Jesus worship, and cheekily places the IMAGE of the A.C. up in the temple of God committing another AoD. Then from that point on, which is 1290 days before the 2nd coming ENDS ALL THESE WONDERS/THINGS, the Jews have 30 days to Flee Judea before the Anti-Christ conquers them at the 1260 middle of the week, thus he will rule for only 1260 days, and he will be killed at the 2nd coming 1260 days later. The FULCRUM POINT is the 2nd coming on all three numbers.

Israel never accepts a False Messiah, 1/3 repent and flee Judea, 2/3 refuse to accept Jesus as thei Messiah and will thus be killed.

 

[tailgator]

Apostate Israel whos king is the beast.
His capital is Jerusalem.

Amos 5
“Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings
forty years in the wilderness, people of Israel?
26 You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
the pedestal of your idols,
the star of your god[b]—
which you made for yourselves.
27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,”
says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty.

 

[Davy]

You kind of get this right, but do not understand that Babylon and The Harlot are two different entities, and that's why we get two chapters devoted to The Harlot (Rev. 17) False Religions and Babylon (Rev. 18) the Great which represents Gov. Beasts under Satan's Deceptive Powers. So, you see that Babylon means CONFUSION (correct) but you misdiagnose it as False Religion (which is a part of his confusion program no doubt) instead of Satan's Dark Rule over all the earth.

Ancient Sumer-Babylon was the very first recorded history of idol worship under Sargon I. It was the source of all paganism and idol worship after it. And that exactly is what the 'woman' of Rev.17 represents with Jerusalem as its headquarters for the coming Rev.13:1 one-world beast kingdom. That harlot idea is about Jerusalem, and is from Ezekiel 16 where God calls Jerusalem a harlot when it fell into idol worship back in history.

The 6th Trump is the 2nd Woe, you TIMING is way off, Satan is cast down in the middle of the 70th week at the First Trump (when the Asteroid Hits//God's Wrath). That's why he chases the Woman (Israel) for 1260 days in Rev. 12. Israel never accepts a False Messiah, that a misconception on many peoples minds, they firstly misunderstand John 5:43, it was about the Pharisees of Jesus' time, he told them you (YOU the Pharisees) will not accept me but YOU will accept another who comes in his on name.

The 6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe period represents the start of the time of "great tribulation" when the "abomination of desolation" is placed in a new Jewish temple in Jerusalem by the false-Messiah. The river Euphrates represents the northern border between God's people and Satan's host. Satan's host coming across it in Rev.9 represents tribulation time at the end. There's two 1260 days periods represented in Rev.12. The false-Messiah actually shows up for the first half, which is when the new temple is built is old covenant sacrifices started up again. Then he will end those sacrifices breaking the covenant, and setup the AOD in false worship at the middle of the 7 years, starting the "great tribulation". The 6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe period continues into Rev.11 until Jesus' coming on the 7th Trumpet - 3rd Woe.

Now, look this up, its a historical fact. The Pharisees knew Rome was the Fourth Beast (like we do) and so they thought the Messiah would come and save them in the 67-70 AD War, that is why Jesus warned his disciples not to buy into the Wars and Rumors of Wars in Matt. 24:4-6, and made it a point to tell them "The End is not Yet" so they knew 100 percent that was not Jesus come again. Instead, people see John 5:43 and thinks its an END TIME Prophesy it is not.

John 5:43 definitely is pointing to the final Antichrist that is to come at the very end of this world. There's been many that have come saying they are 'Christ', but Jesus revealed the real Antichrist will work great signs and wonders that If possible, would deceive even His very elect. That's different, because the false claimers haven't had any special power of miracles, but only have claimed to be Christ.

And when Jesus said we'd hear of wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet, that was in relation to His disciple's question of what would be the sign of Jesus' coming, and of the end of the world. That's what Jesus was giving there in His Olivet discourse, SIGNS of the very end of this world leading up to His future return. Understanding why He said that about wars, and showing the end is not going to be about wars, is covered in several other Bible Scriptures about the false "Peace and safety" the deceived will be saying during the coming "great tribulation". It's going to be a time of world peace for the majority, though a fake peace. All wars will have stopped when it comes.

This throws those who do not understand to think Israel accepts a False Messiah, they do not, the A.C. is a Gentile, thus he could never be confused as a False Messiah. Do you know what Dan. 9:27 really means? Its this simple, the Agreement (Covenant in Hebrew means Agreement) is this, after the Gog & Magog war Israel will join the European Union. Look up the European Neighborhood Policy, its a policy agenda that the E.U. currently has with Israel, but also with (IMHO) The Many, the E.U. has a 7 Year Deal with Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Morocco and Algeria, these agreements ran from 2007-2013, from 2014-2020 so they are in 7 year cycles. The E.U. doles out 15 Billion Euros to these nations, in order to for ties with the region, and in order to MAYBE bring in some of these as added E.U. states, it says that on the Wikipedia site.

Oh yeah, the deceived Orthodox unbelieving Jews will... be deceived and wrongly believe on the coming false-Messiah. You can't change that prophecy no matter what you say or do. When the deceived unbelieving Jews who love The LORD see Jesus coming, only then will they realize what they will have done, and will wish for the mountains and hills to "Fall on us" (see Luke 23:27-31).

FYI, the Gog-Magog event of Ezekiel 38 & 39 is for the very end of this present world when Jesus comes with His army from Heaven to fight it on the last day. It is linked with the battle of Armageddon, and Zephaniah 3.

Now, when one reads Dan. 1:40-43 the actual Anti-Christ battle (the 7th Syrian War) where it shows him Conquering countries tm get at Israel )Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, then Israel, then all pf North Africa, they creates a Reunified Rome. Look at this, Rome circa 117 AD and the E.U. who Conquers Israel and THE MANY or the Whole Mediterranean Sea Region !! Its Rome Revived !!

Some scholars seeing the "iron" symbol with the Dan.2 beast feet and toes with part clay think that means a revived Roman empire, when it does not.

Per Dan.2:44-45, all FIVE pieces of the beast statue are 'together' at the end, and are destroyed by the Stone (Christ) smiting its feet of ten toes, and then Christ's future Kingdom is setup. So it ain't simply about Rome or the EU. You probably don't even realize how the old Bavarian Illuminati was behind setting the EU up originally, along with Communist Russia. Ex-KGB colonel Golitsyn said the Russian Communists have a plan for a one Socialist Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals. Obviously you fail to see how Edom's hand is in that also. Sounds like you are heeding some of those within that plan with your pointing to the EU and Rome so much.

So, Israel never accepts a False Messiah, they join the E.U. and God's ANGER is revived, the 70th week kicks off, how dare they "give away His land". This kicks of both the Rapture and the 70th week.

That's some real wild speculation, and is not Biblical.

The majority of Orthodox Jews will be deceived by the coming false-Messiah, and the rogue element dwelling within the Jews that crept in among them centuries ago, will lead the rest of the Jews into that deception of the coming false-Messiah. There is no rapture prior to the "great tribulation"; and the appearing of that false-Messiah in Jerusalem happens prior to Christ's return. What kicks off the final 70th week (7 years) will be the covenant being confirmed by false-Messiah, which will involve the re-establishing of the old covenant for the Orthodox Jews, to include the building of their 3rd temple in Jerusalem and animal sacrifices.

The 1335 is the Two-witnesses they get Israel to repent 1335 days before the 2nd coming of Jesus.

Absolutely not. The 1335 days of Dan.12 happens after Christ's future return with the cleansing of the temple idea.