What's next, and who's implementing it?
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The speaker is presenting SDA (Seventh Day Adventists) eschatology.
I researched the speaker and found another video by him "The Antichrist Power Rising by Scott Ritsema" on You Tube.
In the video, he goes through SDA belief of the pope/papacy being the Antichrist. And also mentions the 1844 SDA belief of a beginning of the investigative judgment heavenly cleansing (made up doctrine by E.G. White). At minute 56.00 of that video.
So just be aware of what you listening to in the opening post video.
I researched the speaker and found another video by him "The Antichrist Power Rising by Scott Ritsema" on You Tube.
In the video, he goes through SDA belief of the pope/papacy being the Antichrist. And also mentions the 1844 SDA belief of a beginning of the investigative judgment heavenly cleansing (made up doctrine by E.G. White). At minute 56.00 of that video.
So just be aware of what you listening to in the opening post video.
I watched part of it. But the speaker, spoke too fast and somewhat erratic for me. When for a brief second in the background, there appeared an "Amazing facts" picture (Amazing facts is a series by Doug Batchler, SDA), that's what clued me he was SDA. So I then froze the video and began a search about the speaker, and found that he was SDA.
I disagree with SDA concerning several of their beliefs. A few are...
1. of their belief that the pope/papacy is the Antichrist/beast.
2. of their application that a day in bible prophecy is a year. 1260 days in the text, for example, SDA considers as being 1260 years.
Are you SDA ?
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Yes. For nearly 30 years of my 50 year Christian walk. A commitment I didn't take lightly.
Watch the video. I wouldn't post it if it was just about doctrine. There's enough of that on the forums, so I wouldn't post a video and bore everyone over something they are already biased against. This video is pertinent to everything the world is going through, who's organizing it, what they are working toward, and the final agenda. It's current events. It's prophecy. It's real. And it's today.
It isn't guesswork about what is going to happen tomorrow or next year. It's more like a documentary on the purposes and current progress of the powers that be in government, in the secret societies, in the occult, and everyone needs to know. The times are urgent. If I could think of a word more urgent than urgent, I would use it.
Watch it again. Leave your prejudices behind for an hour.
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Well think about it the Antichrist would have to have the IQ of a 2 by 4 to come as Pope it would be so obvious he would be outed the first day by all Christians including Catholics.
Dan Clarkston
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That's just silly!
The pope / catholic church will be the false prophet... they will definitely be advocates of the one world government / religion.
BlessedPeace
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The Pope is already a world leader being he's a dictator reigning from one of if not the smallest sovereign state on earth.
He's an Ecumenist. He's the first Jesuit pope in their history. How far is a one world government away from that?
Dan Clarkston
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I tried to watch it again, but could only stand to watch until minute 30, it was so erroneous. The speaker is claiming that America's population would be cut in half and the economy collapsed in 2025, based on some research company's projection.
The speaker has no idea what he is talking about because he does not understand that the 7 years following the Gog/Magog event of Ezekiel 39:9 are the same seven years of Daniel 9:27.
And that the prince who shall come must be a Jew, to be anointed the King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah - becoming the Antichrist. And that person will confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years, as Moses required in Deuteronomy 31:9-13, by making a big speech on the temple mount.
Which is totally counter to SDA beliefs about the pope/papacy.
Please summarize the series of events that you think from the video presentation are going to happen soon.
That will help others understand what SDA believes regarding eschatology.
I think this thread is helpful in that regards.
It wasn't the speakers claim. He is informing you of a high powered futurist think tank and what they are projecting will take place... By next year. That think tank wrote the book in the 1990s.Considering they were correct in 90% of their projections, and wrong in a few, with the remaining yet to happen, I think it behooves us all to give them, and the speaker who is merely giving information from the very powers that rule the world (WEO, Gates etc) , the benefit of the doubt. You have allowed your prejudiced ideology and nuanced theology to color your discretionary powers to your detriment. The predictions that the book speaks of, remember that 90% of their predictions have since come true, including smart houses, AI in business, sustainability goals in industry and energy, social media, global face to face communication, and many others. The Deagel institute is another think tank, and they agree with the first one. Here are some things yet to happen, according to them...
A third world war.
A large nuclear fallout resulting in widespread starvation.
Another American civil war.
A catastrophic economic collapse.
A cyber attack on strategic infrastructure assets affecting the lives of millions.
Smart cards incorporating health, financial, work related information, as well as affiliation to religious organizations.
Monitoring of business transactions world wide.
Remember, they wrote this 30 years ago.
Now regardless of Adventist eschatology, it is no stretch to impose the above as a blueprint for Revelation 13.
Considering the fact that bows and arrows and shields and bucklers and handstaves are obviously symbolic, that Gog and Magog are symbolic for the entire planet, and the event itself is symbolic as revealed here...
KJV Revelation 20:7-8
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
...and that it doesn't take place for another 1000 years, I am wondering how you can be so confident to claim that he is the one who doesn't know what he is talking about, when he isn't even discussing that event. You have erected a strawman to rival the statue in Daniel 2.
Everyone these days believes all manner of different views on the end times. There are movies and books and fictional apocalyptic Hollywood blockbusters with plagues and viral catastrophes and zombies and werewolves and vampires and the Antichrist rising as a Romanian technocrat in their midst. All of them are contrary to SDA beliefs. Hardly a surprise, considering SDA beliefs are based on the Bible and not on random pin-tail-on-donkey type futurist prophecy that originated from Jesuits in the 17th century.
I'm astonished you gave up so soon. I would love to know what specific doctrine offended you, and the evidence you have as to why it isn't true. And if you don't think the Jesuits are up to their revolutionary necks in the business of destroying protestant America and setting up a global Catholic dominated society with all the historical baggage that the Vatican views sacred, then I suggest you do some more reading outside of the "Left Behind" books.
Depends on what you expect the Antichrist to do. What if he's already here and doing what you don't expect? Remember, the true Christ was here for 3 and a half years doing what no-one expected, no-one recognized, and surprised even His followers. Then He was killed. You think the Antichrist will be so readily recognizable? Jesus Himself said to beware of deception. The Antichrist will not be doing the obvious. Oh, and if you were a student of prophecy, you would know that in order to fulfill all the criteria regarding the identity on the Antichrist, a single individual is out of the question. But an institution covering millennia... That's another story.
BlessedPeace
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"...When searching the Old Testament you can’t use the name anti-Christ because that name was first used by John in his letters to the Church (1 John 2:18). The anti-Christ is known by about 40 different names in the Old and New Testaments. Some of the most popular are the Assyrian (Micah 5:5), the Little Horn (Daniel 7:8), the stern faced King (Daniel 8:25) the Prince who will come (Daniel 9:26), the man of sin, the man of lawlessness, the son of destruction (2 Thess. 2:3-9) and the Beast (Revelation 13:4). Try a search on the different names of the anti-Christ in the Bible to learn some of the others."
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The Anti-Christ In The Old Testament – Grace thru faith
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Just to clarify with everyone... Nowhere in the video I posted does the speaker dissect or discuss doctrine. The video is about government affiliated think tanks taking about the future. Believe me. They couldn't be further away from SDA beliefs.
Interesting Doug that you couldn't watch the video with no doctrine, but could watch 56 minutes full of doctrine that you disagree with, and on that basis advise people not to watch the video with no doctrine on the basis of your disagreement with a completely different video. I find that markedly disingenuous.
PS95
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None of that seems unreasonable- some are being provoked, some have been in the works for many years. Who would be surprised by any of those things.
The UN has a huge role in this also. it's been going on for a long time. it is an agenda that has slowly been being implemented in every town at every level. It began to take off as soon as Clinton became president after Bush Sr signed it before leaving. even LGBT+ stuff, the wokeness, the "sustainability" push, dont eat meat, dont drive cars, eminent domain, men are bad, white men are worse, etc etc You see kids in schools? They are fed UN policies like candy.
Pretty much everything we see happening is from that UN agenda!
I have known about this for many years now. No one cared. People are awaking now but it's a day late.
Whatever is going to be is going to be at this point. Trust the Lord not man.
So that is the summary of what the SDA speaker presented to happen in 2025.
Revelation 20:8 is not the Ezekiel 38-39 event. Revelation 20:8 is indicating that the same nations that take part in the Ezekiel 38-39 event will be a part of the nations that take part in Satan's last deception of the nations.
Ezekiel 39 is comprised of three parts.
1. Ezekiel 39:1-16 is about the destruction of Gog's army and aftermath cleanup and burning of the weapons for 7 years.
2. Ezekiel 39:17-20 is the Armageddon event at the end of those 7 years.
3. Ezekiel 39:21-29 is Jesus Himself speaking in the text, having returned to this earth at His Second Coming.
So in Ezekiel 39, we have the Gog/Magog event, then the 7 years (same 7 years of Daniel 9:27), then Armageddon, finished by Jesus's Second Coming.
Thank you. You are getting it. And that's what the video is all about. And the ones who predicted it are the likely culprit implementing it. The video gives some interesting details as to what and why, when, and who by.
Oh please. Get over fetish with the SDA speaker focus. It isn't about him... It's about those he is quoting.
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