UK's got problems and let's take a look at the current climate:

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You know nearly every time I post anything on this forum it’s picked to pieces by someone - I think I am done.
I don’t post that often but when I post it’s because I feel things laid on my heart, no doubt Jay did and it’s not a negative to remind ourselves of the real battle. The Lord often sends reminders, along with proverbs 3:5-6 and I am personally grateful for those moments. It helps me to take a step back from what is going on in the world and consider the bigger picture.
I was going to add something with regards to the last link about protests but it’s pointless.
 

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I would like to remind everyone that God is a loving God, The Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I invited all members into the discussion and all are welcome.
 

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You know nearly every time I post anything on this forum it’s picked to pieces by someone - I think I am done.
I don’t post that often but when I post it’s because I feel things laid on my heart, no doubt Jay did and it’s not a negative to remind ourselves of the real battle. The Lord often sends reminders, along with proverbs 3:5-6 and I am personally grateful for those moments. It helps me to take a step back from what is going on in the world and consider the bigger picture.
I was going to add something with regards to the last link about protests but it’s pointless.
Rita our replies and our thoughts are never pointless. The problem is with those who pick our posts to pieces without due consideration of our feelings. You have been and still are an asset to every site I've been on with you. But if you do leave here please keep in touch. I started this group for just that purpose, so as not to lose touch with people. Log into Facebook
 
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The following shows a difference between the UK and USA governing authority and laws if it is true:

"Across Europe, the right of peaceful assembly is coming under severe attack as states increasingly stigmatize, criminalise and crack down on peaceful protesters, imposing unjustified and punitive restrictions and resorting to ever more repressive means to stifle dissent, said Amnesty International in a new report." Europe: Sweeping pattern of systematic attacks and restrictions undermine peaceful protest
A peaceful protest should be just that - peaceful - and not interfere with other people going about their daily lives and causing no damage and using no violence. Ghandi knew what a peaceful protest looked like but sadly what mat start off as a peaceful protest often ends in hate and violence as it is infiltrated by those you call anarchists. Also those 'stop oil' protests which cause damage to valuable paintings or cause havoc in other people's daily lives by sitting in the middles of roads or holding up the traffic on motorways is really not the way to gain support. Unless it's from others who think that sort of stuff is okay.
 

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I saw that headline but didn't read the item. It's strange how Palestine is now the subject of these protests while Israel which was attacked is the baddy.
Regarding Israel and Palestine, there are innocent victims suffering on both sides. It is always sad when peaceful solutions cannot be reached for the good of the citizens. I'm not sure why Palestine is an issue during the other criminal actions with the original protest story. I'm not sure if Palestine protests weren't already happening around the world anyways?
 
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A peaceful protest should be just that - peaceful - and not interfere with other people going about their daily lives and causing no damage and using no violence. Ghandi knew what a peaceful protest looked like but sadly what mat start off as a peaceful protest often ends in hate and violence as it is infiltrated by those you call anarchists. Also those 'stop oil' protests which cause damage to valuable paintings or cause havoc in other people's daily lives by sitting in the middles of roads or holding up the traffic on motorways is really not the way to gain support. Unless it's from others who think that sort of stuff is okay.
We had a lot of that during the Trump to Biden administration change and COVID lockdowns. They would block freeways, occupy areas as if they were their own country and all manner of destruction to properties and injury and death to peoples. I saw it as wise to stay out of the protest areas as people were being harmed in them by dangerous criminals.

Eventually the "occupy" events ended and life was supposed to return to normal. I'm not sure I'm seeing that from the news reported here.
 

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Regarding Israel and Palestine, there are innocent victims suffering on both sides. It is always sad when peaceful solutions cannot be reached for the good of the citizens. I'm not sure why Palestine is an issue during the other criminal actions with the original protest story. I'm not sure if Palestine protests weren't already happening around the world anyways?
Israel was subject to a terrorist attack and yes there are always innocent victims on both sides of any conflict.
 

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Apparently the riots are a big problem for the UK at the moment. I wasn't sure how big it was.

For your information: I do not support messages from NBC news as I am a conservative Christian and I don't believe the message handled the truth correctly. Instead it dramatized the violence and supported non-Christian immigration into the UK. I am a United States of America Citizen. I am a Christian and while I do not support the use of force by citizens directed towards criminal acts commited by immigrants, we have law enforcement given authority by our country that perform that duty. I also know that we as Christians should unite and bring the gospel peacefully to the other groups of people in the world. I know there have been problems in the USA from immigrants that commit crimes here the authorities we hope will deal with those problems on our behalf. The UK has done that on that matter so I'm not sure why those riots are taking place. We have had many discussions in conservative Christian areas regarding why governments are flooding countries with immigrants from other nations and often non Christian immigrants.

I will post the NBC video and you can see it's message and presentation the way you feel is morally and ethically correct:
 
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The problem I see as a citizen of the United States is this: As a christian that desires to bring the message of the gospel to other areas of the world and within our own country, I know the messages of the bible clearly. They were to bring the message to areas and if the message was not received then they were given the following direction:

Matthew 10:14 And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet.

And the message was the Hope of salvation thru Christ our Lord.

If the USA brings non-Christian immigrants into cities and other areas to live among the United States population I hope there isn't a bigger problem that develops later in history such as the eventual change of the government type to something other the a United States Democracy. Can the United States guarantee that will not happen? I enjoy my current government type as it is more freedom than other government types. And I'm not exactly sure why I am seeing so many immigrants within my own area currently. That certainly was not the case when I was younger. I am not native American and I wonder how they also feel about immigration as they were forced into reservations themselves and given land and rights of their own as Native American.

Does anybody know the reason for all the immigration that has been happening over the years? I know some are fleeing war torn areas and perhaps simply seeking a peaceful existence to live out their lives and desire their own culture and religion.

I wonder if my Christian message sounds arrogant to other people similar to Trumps responses from left wing and liberal USA members?
 

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Here is a wonderful story of sharing USA country privileges and sounds loving and to the heart of the matter of immigrants. I know it should be done responsibly regarding amount of immigrants allowed to enter the USA areas and also that they enter legally and proclaim and support the United States Government and country allegiance oaths:

Usha Vance discusses her upbringing and achieving the American Dream | Fox News Video

Here is the USA citizen oath section from the dot gov website. See the whole section on the link below:

“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America ..." Chapter 2 - The Oath of Allegiance
 

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For the United States children areas taught in schools when I was a child many years ago there is the "pledge of allegiance":

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." The Pledge of Allegiance

There were stories that concerned me of whether it was given to children in the United States any more. We as children would recite the pledge with the teacher conducting at the front of class with our hands over our hearts. It was nice to be part of as a child and I desire that experience for all children that are US citizens. It promotes patriotism.

Back to UK issues, I wanted to cover the above issues for USA citizens.
 

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Just to let you know that on Wednesday night 30 far right marches were planned around the country, including where I live. Well in all cases there were counter marches from those against the far right , they out numbered those who came to cause trouble. All the marches were peaceful………also those who were involved in earlier marches during the week have already been receiving prison sentences and court appearances.
 

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Just to let you know that on Wednesday night 30 far right marches were planned around the country, including where I live. Well in all cases there were counter marches from those against the far right , they out numbered those who came to cause trouble. All the marches were peaceful………also those who were involved in earlier marches during the week have already been receiving prison sentences and court appearances.
Great news @Rita. I'm happy their giving their voices peacefully about their stances to the authority of the land. We had some problems also in the BLM marches, traffic blocked and problem people not being friendly to the general public.
 

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UK government is out of its bleeding mind.

I love that guy. Bless you for your service sir.

August 12

UK police chief threatens to jail Americans over online posts: Report


The head of London’s Metropolitan Police Service has issued a warning that United Kingdom officials will not only target British citizens for sharing content and commentary pertaining to the violent riots and clashes between protesters and counter-protesters, but that officials will also target and potentially extradite and jail American citizens for sharing online content......