"strong delusions"

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God's point:

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
The particular delusion isn't named, but it's purpose is, binding these over to condemnation. Romans 1 describes a similar circumstance:

Romans 1:28 KJV
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

They did not receive the love of the truth. They did not like to retain God in their knowledge. So God gives them over to their vile affections, men with men, and women with women.

This is directly contrary to the first truth spoken by God regarding mankind.

Genesis 1:27 KJV
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

We are created in God's image, and have been created male and female.

Is this Lie, that they will believe so as to be condemned that we are not created male and female, but that we are whatever we want to be? Then given over into that delusion?

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The particular delusion isn't named, but it's purpose is, binding these over to condemnation. Romans 1 describes a similar circumstance:

Romans 1:28 KJV
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

They did not receive the love of the truth. They did not like to retain God in their knowledge. So God gives them over to their vile affections, men with men, and women with women.

This is directly contrary to the first truth spoken by God regarding mankind.

Genesis 1:27 KJV
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

We are created in God's image, and have been created male and female.

Is this Lie, that they will believe so as to be condemned that we are not created male and female, but that we are whatever we want to be? Then given over into that delusion?

Much love!
God doesn't ask permission, period.
 

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2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

WHat's a delusion? A belief in a lie in the face of evidence to the contrary? Then we have to ask ourselves wherein is the source of the Lie? Is it God's Lie? No, God is the way, the Truth, and the life so it isnt His.

Remember Job? Did God send hard times and death upon Job or was it the enemy? I guess you could say that in a facetious roundabout way, that God sent hard times upon Job but He didn't at the same time. God didnt kill his kids. God didnt knock on Job's door and suprise mutha! He just doesnt do that to people. Not the God I know!
 

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WHat's a delusion? A belief in a lie in the face of evidence to the contrary? Then we have to ask ourselves wherein is the source of the Lie? Is it God's Lie? No, God is the way, the Truth, and the life so it isnt His.

Remember Job? Did God send hard times and death upon Job or was it the enemy? I guess you could say that in a facetious roundabout way, that God sent hard times upon Job but He didn't at the same time. God didnt kill his kids. God didnt knock on Job's door and suprise mutha! He just doesnt do that to people. Not the God I know!
Accepting the Mark of the Beast and burning in Hell forever.
 
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Everybody loving their own selves now, that is as much love and understanding, as people have now.

The strong delusion is the many false teachers, is the forum not a lucky place. ( ever learning and NEVER able to come to the KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH/with a FORM OF GODLINESS)


Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 

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The particular delusion isn't named,
The ways of the world, the flesh, and the devil are powered by delusion. The context of Thessalonians 2 is "the great apostasy", so as judgment God amps up the delusion of the apostates, as per Hebrews 6.

Heb 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, (5) and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, (6) if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
 

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We know what strong delusion i, it is in men, as the antichrist spirit is in all the world.

But what about what is the very opposite, to what can never delude us..



2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
 
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What are the "strong delusions" mentioned by Paul in 2 Corinthians 2:11
Precious friend, Concerning "strong delusionS" in 2 Corinthians 2:11 AV:

"Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices."

These devices are most likely the over 100 "new modern easier-to-read/understand"
ever-changing bible versions, which 1) question, 2) add to, 3) subtract from,
4) water down, and 5) Deny God's Preserved Word (AV)!

Now, if you meant This Delusion:


"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they
received not the love of The Truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause
God Shall Send them Strong Delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all
might be damned who believed not The Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
(2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 AV)

Does not this mean that during today's Gospel Of Grace, that those who "Reject"
God's Gracious Offer, and are "left behind" at God's Great GRACE Departure, Will
Have "NO Second Chance" for Salvation, Will "believe Satan's lie", and take "...the
mark of the beast, worshipping him and his image..." (Revelation 14:9-11 AV)

Seems pretty clear to me.

Amen.
 
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Humbleness and doing well ( the opposite to forums talk) is how to not lose the soul to satans deceit..


Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;